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Re: Never Destination

Posted: Tue April 07, 2020 6:26 am
by knee tunes
Fattie_Vedder wrote:This one climbed the ranks for me. Im surprised how much I still enjoy it and in fact enjoy it more now than when I first heard it. It’s catchy in a good way, and I love that it has some Yield sounding parts.
whoa, stop right there buddy

Re: Never Destination

Posted: Tue April 07, 2020 1:17 pm
by Farmer John
Kevin Davis wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:Its kinda incredible how this one grew up on me. I feel its such a cool song now, and i thought it was just mid par
Same here, it presents on the surface as a forgettable Eddie rocker, only you listen to it a few times and you end up not forgetting it.

There are fleeting moments during the verse when I find myself thinking it could be an early Elvis Costello/Attractions tune -- it has the kind of unhinged, half-melody-half-sneer that I would expect to find on a This Years Model B-side or something.

There is also a less fleeting moment in the chorus where it still very distinctly sounds like Huey Lewis and the News. And it just gets more fun every time.
Not gonna lie, guys. I am rock hard right now.

Re: Never Destination

Posted: Tue April 07, 2020 7:48 pm
by epilogue
Insignificance
Do The Evolution
Oceans
Unemployable
Thumbing My Way
Pendulum
Pry, To
Never Destination
Unthought Known
Blood
Habit

Re: Never Destination

Posted: Tue April 07, 2020 9:01 pm
by PHATJ
Do The Evolution
Oceans
Insignificance
Unemployable
Never Destination
Habit
Blood
Thumbing My Way
Pendulum
Unthought Known
Pry, to

Re: Never Destination

Posted: Tue April 07, 2020 10:50 pm
by Rob
DTE
Insignificance
Habit
Thumbing My Way
Never Destination
Blood
Oceans
Unthought Known
Unemployable
Pendulum
Pry, to

Re: Never Destination

Posted: Tue April 07, 2020 11:08 pm
by bodysnatcher
Do The Evolution
Oceans
Habit
Insignificance
Blood
Never Destination
Thumbing My Way
Pry, to
Unemployable
Pendulum
Unthought Known

Re: Never Destination

Posted: Tue April 07, 2020 11:11 pm
by VinylGuy
Kevin Davis wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:you dont feel its similar to BRY? the bridge sounds like something from the Yield era.
I don't really hear "BRY," VG -- I mean, I can see where, if all Pearl Jam songs had to be shepherded into, say, 5 or 6 different categories, these two songs and some of those Trag listed would share a bucket, but it doesn't specifically remind me of it. The whole vibe and headspace of those No Code and Yield songs was just so different; I struggle to really hear any of it in the Gigaton material. To me, "Black Red and Yellow," "Leatherman," and "MFC" really do feel light and airy -- unburdened, and effortlessly nimble as a result. I think this song, while still anchored around Eddie's scrappy guitar playing, mixes in some piss and vinegar, some outwardly-directed snarl -- those other songs just don't go for that, despite some superficial similarities.
i get that, but how the bridge its builds, its just reminds me of BRY or Undone. Its more close to those songs than, let say Big Wave or Supersonic.

Re: Never Destination

Posted: Tue April 07, 2020 11:19 pm
by PHATJ
PHATJ wrote:1. Do The Evolution
2. Oceans
3. Insignificance
4. Never Destination
5. Unemployable
6. Habit
7. Blood
8. Pendulum
9. Thumbing My Way
10. Pry, to
11. Unthought Known
Top three are gold, Jerry, gold. Never Destination and Unemployable are just a touch behind. Habit and Blood are absolutely amazing if I’m in the right mood. Pendulum is one of the top 2 songs on that album, but it doesn’t come close to the top 7 here. TMW is ok. Pry, To is sorta cool, Unthought Known sucks.

Re: Never Destination

Posted: Wed April 08, 2020 12:35 am
by stip
maybe the weakest track number?

Do the Evolution
Insignificance
Oceans
Habit
Blood
Pendulum
Never Destination
Unthought Known
Thumbing My Way
Unemployable
Pry to

Re: Never Destination

Posted: Wed April 08, 2020 1:17 am
by Ms Harmless
I haven't done one of these lists yet but I feel compelled to say that Thumbing My Way goes right to the top of this one for me

Re: Never Destination

Posted: Wed April 08, 2020 2:44 am
by Kevin Davis
Do the Evolution
Insignificance
Oceans
Habit
Thumbing My Way
Unemployable
Never Destination
Blood
Unthought Known
Pendulum
Pry, To

Re: Never Destination

Posted: Wed April 08, 2020 2:47 am
by tragabigzanda
pearl jam sucks now

Re: Never Destination

Posted: Wed April 08, 2020 3:27 pm
by evenslow
What makes this song more interesting than the typical PJ Rocker™ is the journey it goes on when it typically would have ended.

On BS or LB, this track would have ended at about the 2:15 mark and that would have been that.

On Gigaton, just as you think it's gonna peter out, it starts that slow, slow build culminating in the GAPING MAW section. It builds into the crescendo and kicks back into the main riff. Then you get another high energy verse, followed by a reprise of an earlier verse (a recurring trick on the album) into the chorus one last time, followed by the Tom Petty finish.

That adventurous extra two minutes we get is what sets Gigaton apart.

Re: Never Destination

Posted: Wed April 08, 2020 3:30 pm
by Monkey_Driven
evenslow wrote:What makes this song more interesting than the typical PJ Rocker™ is the journey it goes on when it typically would have ended.

On BS or LB, this track would have ended at about the 2:15 mark and that would have been that.

On Gigaton, just as you think it's gonna peter out, it starts that slow, slow build culminating in the GAPING MAW section. It builds into the crescendo and kicks back into the main riff. Then you get another high energy verse, followed by a reprise of an earlier verse (a recurring trick on the album) into the chorus one last time, followed by the Tom Petty finish.

That adventurous extra two minutes we get is what sets Gigaton apart.
Absolutely. I feel similarly about Who Ever Said.

Re: Never Destination

Posted: Wed April 08, 2020 5:14 pm
by Ms Harmless
Monkey_Driven wrote:
evenslow wrote:What makes this song more interesting than the typical PJ Rocker™ is the journey it goes on when it typically would have ended.

On BS or LB, this track would have ended at about the 2:15 mark and that would have been that.

On Gigaton, just as you think it's gonna peter out, it starts that slow, slow build culminating in the GAPING MAW section. It builds into the crescendo and kicks back into the main riff. Then you get another high energy verse, followed by a reprise of an earlier verse (a recurring trick on the album) into the chorus one last time, followed by the Tom Petty finish.

That adventurous extra two minutes we get is what sets Gigaton apart.
Absolutely. I feel similarly about Who Ever Said.
yeah, and it's all these detours on all these songs that really makes it sound like a PJ album

Re: Never Destination

Posted: Fri April 10, 2020 5:47 pm
by wease
This tune is quite similar to Crumblin’ Down by John Cougar.

Re: Never Destination

Posted: Mon April 13, 2020 12:56 pm
by Ms Harmless
I *might* think that this is the most successful "rocker", beginning to end, on the album

Re: Never Destination

Posted: Mon April 13, 2020 5:02 pm
by Hatfield
Monkey_Driven wrote:
evenslow wrote:What makes this song more interesting than the typical PJ Rocker™ is the journey it goes on when it typically would have ended.

On BS or LB, this track would have ended at about the 2:15 mark and that would have been that.

On Gigaton, just as you think it's gonna peter out, it starts that slow, slow build culminating in the GAPING MAW section. It builds into the crescendo and kicks back into the main riff. Then you get another high energy verse, followed by a reprise of an earlier verse (a recurring trick on the album) into the chorus one last time, followed by the Tom Petty finish.

That adventurous extra two minutes we get is what sets Gigaton apart.
Absolutely. I feel similarly about Who Ever Said.
:hooray: You nailed it Evenslow. It feels like a part of their instinctual songwriting that O'Brien neutered.

Re: Never Destination

Posted: Mon April 13, 2020 5:50 pm
by McParadigm
I think it was the producer who said something about approaching the songwriting this time around in terms of building internal tension within the song, and then releasing it. That really does play to their most natural song craft instincts. Tracks like Daughter are built upon it.

Re: Never Destination

Posted: Mon April 13, 2020 11:51 pm
by wease
The Tom Petty finish is just glaze on the donut.