Red Mosquito

Habitman wrote:

Ms Harmless wrote:

Habitman wrote:I know its been discussed but the lack of bass in this song is so odd. I am not well versed in the metal genre but I know thin/high treble songs are a feature of some metal music (metallica comes to mind). Maybe this is what the band was going for? Anyway, I think it deflates the song a bit. Still a good song but too thin sounding for my taste.

I always associated metal with high low-end / bass, high top-end / treble, and little to no middle; the most "metal" they've ever been is in songs like "Go", "Blood" or "Leash", and especially when Dave A played drums (he was so into his hard bass and very tight snare, and so am I); so yes I do think the high treble in this song is quite metal, but the lack of bass also bothers me; the only way it's grown on me is to imagine this "thin" sound as quite 80s speed metal / thrash, or even (as I've said more than once) retro video game music; it has a certain charm that fits with the album's aesthetic, but depending on what mood I'm in, I can't help wondering what Jeff would have done on it

Thanks for responding... The past songs you mentioned had influences of Metal but still maintained the funk/blues sound that was a staple of their first two records. Take the Long Way is the most overt metal attempt right down to the thin/high treble sound. I guess I just want the song to be more of a banger but clearly they were intending to produce a different sounding song.

tragabigzanda wrote:I genuinely believe they had the bass buss muted or the fader was low when they printed the mix, and no one noticed.

You can hear it faintly in the background, which makes me think it was send to an FX channel, and we're getting a bit of that in the mix, but that the main bass channel was low or muted.

evenslow wrote:do we have any board players that feel like adding a bass track to this? could be a fun RM project!

stip wrote:It needs to be done Doug Getaway style

dprival78 wrote:matt seems to be interacting with people on instagram.. somebody ask him

you may have to play an SG song on guitar to get his attention first, though

Strat wrote:

dprival78 wrote:matt seems to be interacting with people on instagram.. somebody ask him

you may have to play an SG song on guitar to get his attention first, though

Im thinking of firing up some evacuation on my SG for him this evening. Cross your fingers fellas.

tragabigzanda wrote:I genuinely believe they had the bass buss muted or the fader was low when they printed the mix, and no one noticed.

You can hear it faintly in the background, which makes me think it was send to an FX channel, and we're getting a bit of that in the mix, but that the main bass channel was low or muted.

Leatherhead wrote:

Strat wrote:

dprival78 wrote:matt seems to be interacting with people on instagram.. somebody ask him

you may have to play an SG song on guitar to get his attention first, though

Im thinking of firing up some evacuation on my SG for him this evening. Cross your fingers fellas.

Do it.

evenslow wrote:

Leatherhead wrote:

Strat wrote:

dprival78 wrote:matt seems to be interacting with people on instagram.. somebody ask him

you may have to play an SG song on guitar to get his attention first, though

Im thinking of firing up some evacuation on my SG for him this evening. Cross your fingers fellas.

Do it.

DO IT

tragabigzanda wrote:

LetMeSleep wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:I genuinely believe they had the bass buss muted or the fader was low when they printed the mix, and no one noticed.

You can hear it faintly in the background, which makes me think it was send to an FX channel, and we're getting a bit of that in the mix, but that the main bass channel was low or muted.

Is this their When Doves Cry? Maybe another reference with Petty, Cornell?

what is this a reference to?

Ms Harmless wrote:

Habitman wrote:

Ms Harmless wrote:

Habitman wrote:I know its been discussed but the lack of bass in this song is so odd. I am not well versed in the metal genre but I know thin/high treble songs are a feature of some metal music (metallica comes to mind). Maybe this is what the band was going for? Anyway, I think it deflates the song a bit. Still a good song but too thin sounding for my taste.

I always associated metal with high low-end / bass, high top-end / treble, and little to no middle; the most "metal" they've ever been is in songs like "Go", "Blood" or "Leash", and especially when Dave A played drums (he was so into his hard bass and very tight snare, and so am I); so yes I do think the high treble in this song is quite metal, but the lack of bass also bothers me; the only way it's grown on me is to imagine this "thin" sound as quite 80s speed metal / thrash, or even (as I've said more than once) retro video game music; it has a certain charm that fits with the album's aesthetic, but depending on what mood I'm in, I can't help wondering what Jeff would have done on it

Thanks for responding... The past songs you mentioned had influences of Metal but still maintained the funk/blues sound that was a staple of their first two records. Take the Long Way is the most overt metal attempt right down to the thin/high treble sound. I guess I just want the song to be more of a banger but clearly they were intending to produce a different sounding song.

I think you're using "metal" to mean speed or thrash metal; the earlier songs were equally metal but more groove metal, if anything

tragabigzanda wrote:

McParadigm wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:

LetMeSleep wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:I genuinely believe they had the bass buss muted or the fader was low when they printed the mix, and no one noticed.

You can hear it faintly in the background, which makes me think it was send to an FX channel, and we're getting a bit of that in the mix, but that the main bass channel was low or muted.

Is this their When Doves Cry? Maybe another reference with Petty, Cornell?

what is this a reference to?

When Doves Cry has no bassline.

but was it a mistake, or intentional?

warehouse wrote:

Ms Harmless wrote:

Habitman wrote:

Ms Harmless wrote:

Habitman wrote:I know its been discussed but the lack of bass in this song is so odd. I am not well versed in the metal genre but I know thin/high treble songs are a feature of some metal music (metallica comes to mind). Maybe this is what the band was going for? Anyway, I think it deflates the song a bit. Still a good song but too thin sounding for my taste.

I always associated metal with high low-end / bass, high top-end / treble, and little to no middle; the most "metal" they've ever been is in songs like "Go", "Blood" or "Leash", and especially when Dave A played drums (he was so into his hard bass and very tight snare, and so am I); so yes I do think the high treble in this song is quite metal, but the lack of bass also bothers me; the only way it's grown on me is to imagine this "thin" sound as quite 80s speed metal / thrash, or even (as I've said more than once) retro video game music; it has a certain charm that fits with the album's aesthetic, but depending on what mood I'm in, I can't help wondering what Jeff would have done on it

Thanks for responding... The past songs you mentioned had influences of Metal but still maintained the funk/blues sound that was a staple of their first two records. Take the Long Way is the most overt metal attempt right down to the thin/high treble sound. I guess I just want the song to be more of a banger but clearly they were intending to produce a different sounding song.

I think you're using "metal" to mean speed or thrash metal; the earlier songs were equally metal but more groove metal, if anything

i think its also the time signature.