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Re: What bootleg are you listening to?

Posted: Sat August 31, 2013 11:41 pm
by Norah
Birds in Hell wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
Birds in Hell wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:You can definitely hear the mp3'ness of it. I wonder if it's a transcode because it was ripped and then split.
It's a lossy recording of a lossy stream, there's no way it hasn't been transcoded.
Yeah I forgot it was streamed live, not ripped from an embedded "stream" where they could take the mp3 as hosted. Either way, I'm wondering how the dude split it into tracks, because doing that can be difficult without transcoding again.
So you see why I never bothered seeking it out.
I listened to it when it surfaced. It was kind of nice to have, the lossiness was very apparent but it wasn't unlistenable. But it's not something I'd ever go back to, considering we have an entire tour's worth of lossless soundboard recordings that year.

Re: What bootleg are you listening to?

Posted: Sun September 01, 2013 1:49 am
by E.H. Ruddock
cutuphalfdead wrote:
Birds in Hell wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
Birds in Hell wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:You can definitely hear the mp3'ness of it. I wonder if it's a transcode because it was ripped and then split.
It's a lossy recording of a lossy stream, there's no way it hasn't been transcoded.
Yeah I forgot it was streamed live, not ripped from an embedded "stream" where they could take the mp3 as hosted. Either way, I'm wondering how the dude split it into tracks, because doing that can be difficult without transcoding again.
So you see why I never bothered seeking it out.
I listened to it when it surfaced. It was kind of nice to have, the lossiness was very apparent but it wasn't unlistenable. But it's not something I'd ever go back to, considering we have an entire tour's worth of lossless soundboard recordings that year.
The reason I enjoyed it was because they seemed so relaxed and I enjoyed the setlist. Not the best quality but a fun one to listen to.

Re: What bootleg are you listening to?

Posted: Sun September 01, 2013 1:53 am
by Norah
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
Birds in Hell wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
Birds in Hell wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:You can definitely hear the mp3'ness of it. I wonder if it's a transcode because it was ripped and then split.
It's a lossy recording of a lossy stream, there's no way it hasn't been transcoded.
Yeah I forgot it was streamed live, not ripped from an embedded "stream" where they could take the mp3 as hosted. Either way, I'm wondering how the dude split it into tracks, because doing that can be difficult without transcoding again.
So you see why I never bothered seeking it out.
I listened to it when it surfaced. It was kind of nice to have, the lossiness was very apparent but it wasn't unlistenable. But it's not something I'd ever go back to, considering we have an entire tour's worth of lossless soundboard recordings that year.
The reason I enjoyed it was because they seemed so relaxed and I enjoyed the setlist. Not the best quality but a fun one to listen to.
Sure, I'm glad I listened. If the quality was better I'd definitely go back to it.

Re: What bootleg are you listening to?

Posted: Sun September 01, 2013 3:21 am
by VinylGuy
is the Washington 95 download working for everyone?

Re: What bootleg are you listening to?

Posted: Sun September 01, 2013 4:31 am
by Hugh Mungus
Birds in Hell wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
Birds in Hell wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:You can definitely hear the mp3'ness of it. I wonder if it's a transcode because it was ripped and then split.
It's a lossy recording of a lossy stream, there's no way it hasn't been transcoded.
Yeah I forgot it was streamed live, not ripped from an embedded "stream" where they could take the mp3 as hosted. Either way, I'm wondering how the dude split it into tracks, because doing that can be difficult without transcoding again.
So you see why I never bothered seeking it out.
Whoa! From the sounds of it, when I listened to that show I got lucky that my ears didn't bleed or my head didn't explode from the awful transcoded mp3 sound. You guys make me laugh!
I understand the difference in sound quality but refusing to listen to something because it's not a flac is pretty ridiculous. I can remember in the mid 90's paying huge money for bootlegs that sounded like absolute garbage in comparison to this Bellingham show.

Re: What bootleg are you listening to?

Posted: Sun September 01, 2013 6:47 am
by Birds in Hell
Comparing an audience recording (or an analog recording a few generations down the line) isn't really a good comparison with a transcoded MP3; I'd still take the former in most cases.

There's an abundance of good music out there, I don't really see a point listening to something I won't fully enjoy. Hell, I'd probably give a new Pearl Jam album a miss (or, at least, no more than a cursory listen) if it were MP3 only.

I know it doesn't bother everyone, that's cool. Lossy music is just less engaging, less immersive to me.

Re: What bootleg are you listening to?

Posted: Sun September 01, 2013 7:53 am
by Wendy Carlos's Twin
The "lossless" PJ Radio rips I've heard sound like total shit, quite frankly. They're not a particularly enjoyable listening experience even before they've been transcoded 3 times.

Re: What bootleg are you listening to?

Posted: Sun September 01, 2013 4:06 pm
by Hugh Mungus
Fair enough. It is a pretty great show, but you're right there is a lot of better quality stuff out there to listen to. Imo it sounds better than most shows from 2008-2010 though.

Re: What bootleg are you listening to?

Posted: Sun September 01, 2013 4:16 pm
by Norah
Birds in Hell wrote:I know it doesn't bother everyone, that's cool. Lossy music is just less engaging, less immersive to me.
Yup, it just doesn't scratch where it itches.

Re: What bootleg are you listening to?

Posted: Mon September 02, 2013 6:45 pm
by VinylGuy
Washington 95.

Glorified G.

I love how Jacks begins this one...and the whole band sounds amazing.

Re: What bootleg are you listening to?

Posted: Sat September 07, 2013 2:04 pm
by numbers
MSG 2 08

Re: What bootleg are you listening to?

Posted: Sat September 07, 2013 2:05 pm
by numbers
It's amazing how much the presence of no more war on all the 08 setlists drags this tour down

Re: What bootleg are you listening to?

Posted: Sun September 08, 2013 10:34 pm
by Farmer John
01/14/95 - Constitution Hall: Washington, D.C. (Voters for Choice benefit)

Listening to the soundboard remaster series. This is Jack's first real show, right? Everything sounds so good.

I think I have a new favourite version of Black.

Re: What bootleg are you listening to?

Posted: Sun September 08, 2013 10:35 pm
by VinylGuy
Farmer John wrote:01/14/95 - Constitution Hall: Washington, D.C. (Voters for Choice benefit)

Listening to the soundboard remaster series. This is Jack's first real show, right? Everything sounds so good.

I think I have a new favourite version of Black.
That´s a great version of Black...those 95 and 98 shows of Washington are fucking awesome.

Re: What bootleg are you listening to?

Posted: Tue September 10, 2013 1:39 am
by Simple Torture
Salt Lake City 1995. Everyone go listen to this one, now! I command it!

Re: What bootleg are you listening to?

Posted: Tue September 10, 2013 1:54 am
by Simple Torture
I shoulda been clearer and said the first SLC show from '95!

Re: What bootleg are you listening to?

Posted: Tue September 10, 2013 2:10 am
by VinylGuy
Simple Torture wrote:Salt Lake City 1995. Everyone go listen to this one, now! I command it!
That´s one of my favorite boots ever.

Re: What bootleg are you listening to?

Posted: Tue September 10, 2013 2:48 am
by dimejinky99
Still haven't heard constitution hall. Need to sort that out.

Re: What bootleg are you listening to?

Posted: Tue September 10, 2013 5:35 am
by ridleybradout
dimejinky99 wrote:Still haven't heard constitution hall. Need to sort that out.
It'll be the best live PJ you'll hear all decade :nice:

Currently listening to the Live at Easy Street EP. Man I love the way this is mixed - so much better than the 2005 boots (I'm pretty sure Matt has same setup at this show, but unlike those boots his snare doesn't sound like ass).

Re: What bootleg are you listening to?

Posted: Tue September 10, 2013 4:31 pm
by numbers
Yeah, easy street is pretty good.