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durdencommatyler wrote:

BurtReynolds wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:
Breaking Bad was sort of disappointing and a bit of a cop-out. It seemed to spit in the face of it's own overarching themes and contradict the underlying danger of consequences that the show had built so well.

wat

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Walter got off easy and never had to actually pay for his actions. He gets to go out a hero and save his family at the same time.
The series made no bones during the run about real consequences to illegal actions. To me, the show felt like it tried to force WW into a hero role, which I don't think was earned or appropriate. It was kind of a cop-out. Fine, he died. But he still go everything else he wanted and I think he deserved worse than a pseudo "heroes death." The show had set the viewers up for something totally different. Time and time again. Then it sort of just... chickened out.

Spoiler: show

I liked the ending, but let's not pretend those last 2 episodes weren't meant to serve as a redemption arc. He took down a bunch of Nazis with a crazy machine gun apparatus (PRETTY HEROIC), saved his sidekick, secured the money for his family, and made peace with his estranged wife. He died a peaceful death, surrounded by what he loved (the lab equipment).

BurtReynolds wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

BurtReynolds wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:
Breaking Bad was sort of disappointing and a bit of a cop-out. It seemed to spit in the face of it's own overarching themes and contradict the underlying danger of consequences that the show had built so well.

wat

Spoiler: show

Walter got off easy and never had to actually pay for his actions. He gets to go out a hero and save his family at the same time.
The series made no bones during the run about real consequences to illegal actions. To me, the show felt like it tried to force WW into a hero role, which I don't think was earned or appropriate. It was kind of a cop-out. Fine, he died. But he still go everything else he wanted and I think he deserved worse than a pseudo "heroes death." The show had set the viewers up for something totally different. Time and time again. Then it sort of just... chickened out.

He did one decent thing before he died, but it was as much out of vengeance than heroism. His family was utterly destroyed and Jesse was a broken shell. He didn't die a hero. He died surrounded by meth, the only thing he had left in the end.

Spoiler: show

He gets to win. He beats the bad guys. He gets his revenge. His family gets the money. He saves Jessie. He wins as much as a guy in his situation possibly can. I just think that's a writer/show-runner getting in the way. And Breaking Bad did that a lot. My biggest issue with the series was the way it would bend the characters, even making them act out of character, for the sake of plot rather than listening to what's been established and allowing moments to be completely earned or grow organically. The ending was no different. And it was fine. I don't hate the ending. But did feel like a forced save as opposed to the "right" ending, to me.

durdencommatyler wrote:

BurtReynolds wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

BurtReynolds wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:
Breaking Bad was sort of disappointing and a bit of a cop-out. It seemed to spit in the face of it's own overarching themes and contradict the underlying danger of consequences that the show had built so well.

wat

Spoiler: show

Walter got off easy and never had to actually pay for his actions. He gets to go out a hero and save his family at the same time.
The series made no bones during the run about real consequences to illegal actions. To me, the show felt like it tried to force WW into a hero role, which I don't think was earned or appropriate. It was kind of a cop-out. Fine, he died. But he still go everything else he wanted and I think he deserved worse than a pseudo "heroes death." The show had set the viewers up for something totally different. Time and time again. Then it sort of just... chickened out.

He did one decent thing before he died, but it was as much out of vengeance than heroism. His family was utterly destroyed and Jesse was a broken shell. He didn't die a hero. He died surrounded by meth, the only thing he had left in the end.

Spoiler: show

He gets to win. He beats the bad guys. He gets his revenge. His family gets the money. He saves Jessie. He wins as much as a guy in his situation possibly can. I just think that's a writer/show-runner getting in the way. And Breaking Bad did that a lot. My biggest issue with the series was the way it would bend the characters, even making them act out of character, for the sake of plot rather than listening to what's been established and allowing moments to be completely earned or grow organically. The ending was no different. And it was fine. I don't hate the ending. But did feel like a forced save as opposed to the "right" ending, to me.

Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

BurtReynolds wrote:I see that there is a The Mist series now. Anyone heard about it?

LoathedVermin72 wrote:

BurtReynolds wrote:I see that there is a The Mist series now. Anyone heard about it?

Some of the imagery looks pretty intense. I'm skeptical, but I'll give it a shot.

E.H. Ruddock wrote:

LoathedVermin72 wrote:

BurtReynolds wrote:I see that there is a The Mist series now. Anyone heard about it?

Some of the imagery looks pretty intense. I'm skeptical, but I'll give it a shot.

Why do they do this with Stephen King books? These books have a clear ending/resolution. This will suck just like Under the Dome sucked.

theplatypus wrote:

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I liked the ending, but let's not pretend those last 2 episodes weren't meant to serve as a redemption arc. He took down a bunch of Nazis with a crazy machine gun apparatus (PRETTY HEROIC), saved his sidekick, secured the money for his family, and made peace with his estranged wife. He died a peaceful death, surrounded by what he loved (the lab equipment).

Spoiler: show

I don't think they did the redemptive arc correctly, and that is my major problem with the ending. Walt goes to the Nazis hoping to kill Jesse, bc he's mad at Jesse bc he thinks Jesse is cooking Walt's secret recipe. A season ago, that motivation would've been fine. But post-Hank and post-New Hampshire, that rang false. He should've known Jesse never would've willingly worked with the Nazis (that was clear at that point) and Walt should've gone there to save Jesse, an open acknowledgment that this would be his redemption. Instead, Walt goes in the name of revenge and stumbles into redemption in a split second decision (jumps on Jesse). His redemption would be more powerful and meaningful if he did it on purpose.

durdencommatyler wrote:

Monkey_Driven wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:So, apparently HBO wants Damon Lindelof to show-run their new Watchmen series. People are gonna shit if that happens.

If it is half as good as the Leftovers I am on board. The butthurt over the LOST ending is one of the most tired things on the internet.

Totally agree. I'm a big Lindelof fan. I think this is outstanding news. I hope he commits. I'd love to see Watchmen as an HBO series.

E.H. Ruddock wrote:

LoathedVermin72 wrote:

BurtReynolds wrote:I see that there is a The Mist series now. Anyone heard about it?

Some of the imagery looks pretty intense. I'm skeptical, but I'll give it a shot.

Why do they do this with Stephen King books? These books have a clear ending/resolution. This will suck just like Under the Dome sucked.

LoathedVermin72 wrote:well the movie already sucked so

Original “Karate Kid” Gets A Sequel Series

Original “The Karate Kid” stars Ralph Macchio and William Zabka are reuniting on “Cobra Kai,” a sequel series to the classic films being developed for YouTube Red.

The ten-episode, half-hour series is set thirty years after the events of the 1984 film. A down-and-out Johnny Lawrence (Zabka) seeks redemption by reopening the Cobra Kai karate dojo.

This reignites his rivalry with the successful Daniel LaRusso (Macchio), who has been struggling to maintain a life balance without the guidance of his late mentor Mr. Miyagi.

“Hot Tub Time Machine” scribe Josh Heald and “Harold & Kumar” creators Jon Hurwitz and Hayden Schlossberg will pen and executive produce the series which is being made by Sony Pictures Television Studios and Overbrook Entertainment.

Hurwitz and Schlossberg will direct much of the series while James Lassiter and Caleeb Pinkett will also executive produce.

Source: The Live Feed

Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.