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Re: Behind The Sun: The Official RHCP Thread.

Posted: Fri January 31, 2020 6:34 am
by tragabigzanda

Re: Behind The Sun: The Official RHCP Thread.

Posted: Fri January 31, 2020 1:51 pm
by Superblood Wolfmoon
During Californication and By The Way Frusciante had come to feel that guitar solos were mostly self-serving affairs, which is why there aren't a ton of solos on these records. He had a change of heart before Stadium Arcadium and went full Hendrix on those records, which is why Stadium Arcadium is, for me anyway, a far superior effort than the aforementioned two albums.

Re: Behind The Sun: The Official RHCP Thread.

Posted: Fri January 31, 2020 2:49 pm
by VinylGuy
By the Way has some good songs, but sound all too similar and its just too long. Not my thang.

Re: Behind The Sun: The Official RHCP Thread.

Posted: Fri January 31, 2020 3:46 pm
by EJ
Wet Sand and Gong Li are my two go-to RHCP songs to play recently.

Re: Behind The Sun: The Official RHCP Thread.

Posted: Fri January 31, 2020 3:48 pm
by VinylGuy
Gong Li is such a good song. Its beautiful and i love the lyrics. Kiedis´s performance is top notch.

Re: Behind The Sun: The Official RHCP Thread.

Posted: Fri January 31, 2020 3:53 pm
by tragabigzanda
tragabigzanda wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:Top 10 maybe?
Hello Morning
Close Captioned
The Kill
Place/Position
Do You Like Me?
Latest Disgrace
Recap Modotti
Nightshop
Break
Life & Limb
I'd maybe bump Life & Limb for Epic Problem

Re: Behind The Sun: The Official RHCP Thread.

Posted: Fri January 31, 2020 3:54 pm
by VinylGuy
Thats a b side from Californication right?

I remember listening to it around those years...but maybe its an outtake?

Re: Behind The Sun: The Official RHCP Thread.

Posted: Fri January 31, 2020 3:57 pm
by tragabigzanda

Re: Behind The Sun: The Official RHCP Thread.

Posted: Sat February 01, 2020 4:59 am
by Kaius
I know this is quite egotistical, and certainly unpopular, but my “Stadium Arcadium Prime” mix might make for my favorite RHCP album.

Re: Behind The Sun: The Official RHCP Thread.

Posted: Sat February 01, 2020 5:01 am
by LoathedVermin72
I have never listened to SA

Re: Behind The Sun: The Official RHCP Thread.

Posted: Sat February 01, 2020 5:03 am
by tragabigzanda

Re: Behind The Sun: The Official RHCP Thread.

Posted: Sat February 01, 2020 5:05 am
by Kaius
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
That said, the album is very long, so as is my wont, I retracked it and have been enjoying my new version much more than the original form:

1. Can't Stop (How did they not open with this song considering that percussive intro?!)
2. By the Way
3. The Zephyr Song
4. This is the Place
5. Universally Speaking
6. Venice Queen (REALLY like US and VQ as a mid-album one > two punch.)
7. Throw Away Your Television
8. Minor Thing
9. Midnight
10. Dosed
11. Cabron
I love By the Way but agree that it’s just a little bloated. I’ve never pared it down myself, so I’m going to check this out. Sad to see Tear left off, but I’ll listen first before judging.

Re: Behind The Sun: The Official RHCP Thread.

Posted: Sat February 01, 2020 5:08 am
by Kaius
LoathedVermin72 wrote:I have never listened to SA
Its a logical extension of Californication and By The Way.

I’ve commented on this previously, but to paraphrase—It’s a solid double album effort (with a strong collection of b-sides), that I believe becomes an almost perfect record when trimmed down to about 60 minutes.

Re: Behind The Sun: The Official RHCP Thread.

Posted: Sat February 01, 2020 5:17 am
by LoathedVermin72
tragabigzanda wrote:More on the firing of Klinghoffer:

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/musi ... ew-945881/
Oof, this is really sad.

Re: Behind The Sun: The Official RHCP Thread.

Posted: Sat February 01, 2020 5:20 am
by tragabigzanda
tragabigzanda wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:Top 10 maybe?
Hello Morning
Close Captioned
The Kill
Place/Position
Do You Like Me?
Latest Disgrace
Recap Modotti
Nightshop
Break
Life & Limb
I'd maybe bump Life & Limb for Epic Problem

Re: Behind The Sun: The Official RHCP Thread.

Posted: Sat February 01, 2020 5:34 am
by Birds in Hell
How is it gross?

Firing Josh was definitely the right call. I don't think he was ever a good fit for the band.

Frusciante may have a gigantic ego for expecting the band to go on hiatus if he didn't feel like playing guitar but he's also not wrong.

I found Josh to come across as quite unlikeable in both this and the Maron interview.

It sounds like he didn't have the foresight not to spend all the money he made in his decade or so being a Chili Pepper, which is pretty insane:
You foresaw being in the band a lot longer.

At least for one more tour, right? Because we were through writing another album. I’ve never been good with money and I love spending it, but this time around, I thought, “Yeah, how much longer can this go on? These guys are getting older. It’s not like they like touring long… they don’t do it like they used to. This time around, I’m gonna be a little more responsible and put some [money] away” — doing all that stuff with your parents’ voices in your head. I don’t think along those lines — I’m such a child when it comes to that and I’ve always been that way and being in their band allowed me to be that way. And it was a beautiful thing. But I was getting older now. I’m 40, like, OK, maybe I should be a little more responsible. But at the end of the day, I was really looking forward to making one more record.

Re: Behind The Sun: The Official RHCP Thread.

Posted: Sat February 01, 2020 5:43 am
by Birds in Hell
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
Birds in Hell wrote:I think there’s meant to be some good b-sides from that period too.
Yeah, like the five songs I cut. ;)
This one's great:


Re: Behind The Sun: The Official RHCP Thread.

Posted: Sat February 01, 2020 5:46 am
by tragabigzanda

Re: Behind The Sun: The Official RHCP Thread.

Posted: Sat February 01, 2020 5:53 am
by Birds in Hell
That aping of Frusciante's style is certainly part of what I find objectionable. I don't see how you can pin that on the other guys.

Re: Behind The Sun: The Official RHCP Thread.

Posted: Sat February 01, 2020 5:56 am
by tragabigzanda