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Re: Movie: Man Of Steel (06-14-13)

Posted: Mon June 24, 2013 5:08 pm
by epilogue
VinylGuy wrote:
turned2black wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:
turned2black wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:world war z should bomb.

Is Man of Steel good in 3D?
With all the marketing behind it, I doubt WWZ will flat-out bomb. It'll be battling MOS for the No. 2 spot.
the zombies just look sooooo bad.
Yeah and the shooting was a disaster...im expecting a John Carter type of failure.
Wasn't much of a battle. WWZ outperformed expectations and killed MOS.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=3695&p=.htm

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/en ... 3080.story
Still a failure right? i think they spent 200 million on that movie.
Warner Bros. Pictures' Man of Steel dropped to third place and lost about 64.7% in ticket sales from its first weekend, a larger percentage than was expected. The Superman movie brought in $41.2 million its second weekend and has earned $210 million after two weeks. Overseas, the Zack Snyder-directed film performed much better in first place with another $89 million for an international total of $188.3 million. Worldwide, the $225 million-budgeted Man of Steel has reached $398.3 million.
http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=105779

It's shaping up to be a bigger box office letdown than Into Darkness (which was still the highest grossing Star Trek film of all time).

Re: Movie: Man Of Steel (06-14-13)

Posted: Mon June 24, 2013 5:09 pm
by Jorge
That's, like, a Watchmen-level second-week drop.

Re: Movie: Man Of Steel (06-14-13)

Posted: Mon June 24, 2013 5:10 pm
by epilogue
theplatypus wrote:That's, like, a Watchmen-level second-week drop.
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Re: Movie: Man Of Steel (06-14-13)

Posted: Mon June 24, 2013 5:30 pm
by BurtReynolds
I read somewhere that Into Darkness had a suprisingly small drop off. Its turned into a decent money maker.

Re: Movie: Man Of Steel (06-14-13)

Posted: Mon June 24, 2013 5:57 pm
by epilogue
BurtReynolds wrote:I read somewhere that Into Darkness had a suprisingly small drop off. Its turned into a decent money maker.
That might be true. I have no idea what it's drop off was like. The last I saw on the film it hadn't done anywhere near what Paramount hoped it would. Especially given the four year gap between films. It's domestic gross is fairly low. Most of the money it's made has been international. Which is fine, but again, I don't think it's the massive blockbuster the studio expected.

Maybe I'm wrong. Like I said, I haven't really checked the numbers for a few weeks.

Re: Movie: Man Of Steel (06-14-13)

Posted: Mon June 24, 2013 6:30 pm
by McParadigm
durdencommatyler wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:I read somewhere that Into Darkness had a suprisingly small drop off. Its turned into a decent money maker.
That might be true. I have no idea what it's drop off was like. The last I saw on the film it hadn't done anywhere near what Paramount hoped it would. Especially given the four year gap between films. It's domestic gross is fairly low. Most of the money it's made has been international. Which is fine, but again, I don't think it's the massive blockbuster the studio expected.

Maybe I'm wrong. Like I said, I haven't really checked the numbers for a few weeks.
It's been thrown around lately as an example of how the industry is going to become more reliant on international ticket sales and less influenced by the US market.

Re: Movie: Man Of Steel (06-14-13)

Posted: Mon June 24, 2013 6:34 pm
by epilogue
McParadigm wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:I read somewhere that Into Darkness had a suprisingly small drop off. Its turned into a decent money maker.
That might be true. I have no idea what it's drop off was like. The last I saw on the film it hadn't done anywhere near what Paramount hoped it would. Especially given the four year gap between films. It's domestic gross is fairly low. Most of the money it's made has been international. Which is fine, but again, I don't think it's the massive blockbuster the studio expected.

Maybe I'm wrong. Like I said, I haven't really checked the numbers for a few weeks.
It's been thrown around lately as an example of how the industry is going to become more reliant on international ticket sales and less influenced by the US market.
That makes a lot of sense.

Re: Movie: Man Of Steel (06-14-13)

Posted: Mon June 24, 2013 6:36 pm
by Jorge
That would require some big changes to the infrastructure of how earnings are divvied up between exhibitors and foreign distributors. Maybe more international licensing partnerships?

Re: Movie: Man Of Steel (06-14-13)

Posted: Mon June 24, 2013 6:38 pm
by epilogue
Well something's gotta change. Spielberg said so. Movies are IMPLODING.

Re: Movie: Man Of Steel (06-14-13)

Posted: Mon June 24, 2013 6:54 pm
by McParadigm
theplatypus wrote:That would require some big changes to the infrastructure of how earnings are divvied up between exhibitors and foreign distributors. Maybe more international licensing partnerships?
More of the initial funding sourced from international parties?

More of those Iron Man 3 Chinese scenes?

Re: Movie: Man Of Steel (06-14-13)

Posted: Mon June 24, 2013 6:56 pm
by epilogue
McParadigm wrote:
theplatypus wrote:That would require some big changes to the infrastructure of how earnings are divvied up between exhibitors and foreign distributors. Maybe more international licensing partnerships?
More of the initial funding sourced from international parties?

More of those Iron Man 3 Chinese scenes?
China buys the entire world and makes everything one country?

Re: Movie: Man Of Steel (06-14-13)

Posted: Mon June 24, 2013 7:40 pm
by BurtReynolds
durdencommatyler wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:I read somewhere that Into Darkness had a suprisingly small drop off. Its turned into a decent money maker.
That might be true. I have no idea what it's drop off was like. The last I saw on the film it hadn't done anywhere near what Paramount hoped it would. Especially given the four year gap between films. It's domestic gross is fairly low. Most of the money it's made has been international. Which is fine, but again, I don't think it's the massive blockbuster the studio expected.

Maybe I'm wrong. Like I said, I haven't really checked the numbers for a few weeks.
I believe it was speaking of domestic. After 3 or 4 weeks it was still making decent money, probably because it had an older audience than usual, plus it didn't have far to fall.



movie industry prediction: If its anything like the game industry, I think mid-tier movies will nearly become extinct, but small independent films will be fine, and may even benefit.

The huge budget blockbusters will still be there, but will become more and more formulaic, since they can't rely on DVD sales or word-of-mouth anymore. People's tolerance for yearly, nearly identical Fast and Furiouses, Maddens and Call of Duties has proven the market will still be there. People don't seem to be bothered by product tie-ins as much these days, either (i cant stand it).

Re: Movie: Man Of Steel (06-14-13)

Posted: Mon June 24, 2013 7:44 pm
by epilogue
It's interesting to me that with home theater technology improving so dramatically and the price of going to the theater escalating, people still go to the theater. Buying the Blu Ray is cheaper (for me in NYC) than going to the theater. Even if I don't like the movie, it makes more financial sense to buy it when it comes out, watch it on my HDTV with surround sound, and then throw it out or sell it or give it away.

Re: Movie: Man Of Steel (06-14-13)

Posted: Mon June 24, 2013 7:50 pm
by epilogue
http://www.comicsalliance.com/2013/06/1 ... ars-humor/
A few folks (including Daredevil writer Mark Waid and ComicsAlliance's Chris Sims) have referred to elements of director Zack Snyder's Man of Steel as "disaster porn," but just how much damage is actually dealt by Superman, Zod and company in the movie?

Buzzfeed aimed to find out, so it contacted the folks at Watson Technical Consulting to assess the cost, in lives and in monetary figures. The results are pretty staggering.

Watson's analysts say the destruction of Metropolis in the movie would be comparable to the United States dropping the atomic bomb on Nagasaki in World War II, with 129,000 people confirmed dead, another 250,000 missing and likely dead, and another million people injured. The damage zone would be about a mile in diameter.

The monetary hit? $750 billion, with a total economic impact of $2 trillion. For comparison, the 9/11 attacks did about $55 billion worth of damage, with a total impact of $123 billion. Man of Steel's estimated movie budget was a comparatively cheap $255 million.

How does Man of Steel's movie mayhem compare to other films in the superhero genre? Last year, Kinetic Analysis Corp. (yes, there are apparently two separate firms who do this kind of thing) estimated the damage to New York in The Avengers at about $160 billion.

Looks like we have a new measure for superhero films that goes beyond simple box office. Step your game up, Avengers 2. Get to work on wiping out a whole state!
:haha:

Re: Movie: Man Of Steel (06-14-13)

Posted: Tue June 25, 2013 12:14 am
by Mecca
theplatypus wrote:That's, like, a Watchmen-level second-week drop.
And there's not even a rape scene in this one.

Re: Movie: Man Of Steel (06-14-13)

Posted: Thu June 27, 2013 6:32 pm
by epilogue
Zack Snyder Talks Man of Steel Sequel
Fans can't get enough of the latest Superman movie Man of Steel, and Warner Bros. isn't slowing down on a follow-up. A sequel to the movie is already being fast tracked into production with director Zack Snyder and writer David Goyer already hard at work on the film.

Speaking with Moviehole, Snyder says that they will soon present their ideas to the studio: "I haven’t yet gotten to speak to the studio about all these awesome details (because I’ve been overseas on the junket). So my hope is, when I get home I can sit down with everyone and it’ll be like ‘Okay, so what are we going to do?.. we need to do something…”’

As far as follow-ups go, Snyder is well aware that fans will expect them to double down on the action. "We almost destroyed the world last time, now what!?’ he said.

The thing on everyone's mind though is where does this fit into the long rumored Justice League movie and an expanded DC Universe on film. When asked if the movie leads into Justice League, Snyder said this: "I really wanted to expand the DC Universe and I really wanted to make sure, in Superman’s world, that all that is a possibility."
http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=105897

Re: Movie: Man Of Steel (06-14-13)

Posted: Thu June 27, 2013 6:43 pm
by McParadigm
durdencommatyler wrote:As far as follow-ups go, Snyder is well aware that fans will expect them to double down on the action. "We almost destroyed the world last time, now what!?’ he said.
Sigh

Re: Movie: Man Of Steel (06-14-13)

Posted: Thu June 27, 2013 6:54 pm
by epilogue
McParadigm wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:As far as follow-ups go, Snyder is well aware that fans will expect them to double down on the action. "We almost destroyed the world last time, now what!?’ he said.
Sigh
Yup.

Re: Movie: Man Of Steel (06-14-13)

Posted: Fri June 28, 2013 12:38 am
by WtOB?
MORE action?? Fuck this.

Re: Movie: Man Of Steel (06-14-13)

Posted: Fri June 28, 2013 12:40 am
by epilogue
Let the villain speculation BEGIN!