Dark Matter (song)
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I heard this on the radio this weekend and (a) was very excited to hear it ad (b) was having a really hard time trying to remember the last time I heard a new Pearl Jam song played on the radio. Don't think I ever heard DotC on the radio. Doubtful anything from LB. Maybe The Fixer?
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i really dont listen to radio so i dont have an actual clue of what they play but i have been listening a lot to this one and the new St Vincent single
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GoddessVinylGuy wrote:the new St Vincent single
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Vocal performance is outrageous. Can't wait for the record.VinylGuy wrote:new St Vincent single
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The day Dark Matter came out (seems so long ago now), when I got in my car after work I tuned in to the local rock radio station at the off chance of hearing it, and sure enough, what did I hear? Superblood Wolfmoonmray10 wrote:I heard this on the radio this weekend and (a) was very excited to hear it ad (b) was having a really hard time trying to remember the last time I heard a new Pearl Jam song played on the radio. Don't think I ever heard DotC on the radio. Doubtful anything from LB. Maybe The Fixer?
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VinylGuy wrote:Im getting more of Jeff with each new listen, i love what he is doing. Loving that distortion.
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I may have posted this earlier in this thread, but Severed Hand (Spotify BoB mix) came on shuffle this AM. I had pretty good headphones on, and I wished it sounded like Dark Matter. I could hear everything clearly (maybe clearer than DM) but I just wished everything was louder and had more presence. The DM mix isn't subtle. But it hits hard, and that's what I want in songs like this.
What are the strengths of a mix like Severed Hand compared to DM? Looking to learn, not argue.
What are the strengths of a mix like Severed Hand compared to DM? Looking to learn, not argue.
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You can always listen to the OG version of S/T if your want it LOUD.stip wrote:I may have posted this earlier in this thread, but Severed Hand (Spotify BoB mix) came on shuffle this AM. I had pretty good headphones on, and I wished it sounded like Dark Matter. I could hear everything clearly (maybe clearer than DM) but I just wished everything was louder and had more presence. The DM mix isn't subtle. But it hits hard, and that's what I want in songs like this.
What are the strengths of a mix like Severed Hand compared to DM? Looking to learn, not argue.
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yeah, but even then a lot of ST felt loud in a shrill way, rather than huge. For some songs that were intended to be abrasive (like the first 3) it works, but even with the original mix Severed Hand felt tameMonkey_Driven wrote:You can always listen to the OG version of S/T if your want it LOUD.stip wrote:I may have posted this earlier in this thread, but Severed Hand (Spotify BoB mix) came on shuffle this AM. I had pretty good headphones on, and I wished it sounded like Dark Matter. I could hear everything clearly (maybe clearer than DM) but I just wished everything was louder and had more presence. The DM mix isn't subtle. But it hits hard, and that's what I want in songs like this.
What are the strengths of a mix like Severed Hand compared to DM? Looking to learn, not argue.
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Shrill is a better word for it, you're right.stip wrote:yeah, but even then a lot of ST felt loud in a shrill way, rather than huge. For some songs that were intended to be abrasive (like the first 3) it works, but even with the original mix Severed Hand felt tameMonkey_Driven wrote:You can always listen to the OG version of S/T if your want it LOUD.stip wrote:I may have posted this earlier in this thread, but Severed Hand (Spotify BoB mix) came on shuffle this AM. I had pretty good headphones on, and I wished it sounded like Dark Matter. I could hear everything clearly (maybe clearer than DM) but I just wished everything was louder and had more presence. The DM mix isn't subtle. But it hits hard, and that's what I want in songs like this.
What are the strengths of a mix like Severed Hand compared to DM? Looking to learn, not argue.
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Using DM as a reference track, i remastered Severed Hand to stips liking. HOpe this is what you are looking for!
https://voca.ro/1GHW37oi54kr
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Shades of 90s PJ (Harvey)Buby wrote:GoddessVinylGuy wrote:the new St Vincent single
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stip wrote:yeah, but even then a lot of ST felt loud in a shrill way, rather than huge. For some songs that were intended to be abrasive (like the first 3) it works, but even with the original mix Severed Hand felt tameMonkey_Driven wrote:You can always listen to the OG version of S/T if your want it LOUD.stip wrote:I may have posted this earlier in this thread, but Severed Hand (Spotify BoB mix) came on shuffle this AM. I had pretty good headphones on, and I wished it sounded like Dark Matter. I could hear everything clearly (maybe clearer than DM) but I just wished everything was louder and had more presence. The DM mix isn't subtle. But it hits hard, and that's what I want in songs like this.
What are the strengths of a mix like Severed Hand compared to DM? Looking to learn, not argue.
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I had never heard the 2017 mix of S/T and just checked out "Severed Hand." I haven't heard the original mix in so long that I couldn't tell you how this is different, but man is this performance ever dull compared to the live versions. S/T as a studio album is basically obsolete for me. 2006 tour boots all the way.stip wrote:yeah, but even then a lot of ST felt loud in a shrill way, rather than huge. For some songs that were intended to be abrasive (like the first 3) it works, but even with the original mix Severed Hand felt tameMonkey_Driven wrote:You can always listen to the OG version of S/T if your want it LOUD.stip wrote:I may have posted this earlier in this thread, but Severed Hand (Spotify BoB mix) came on shuffle this AM. I had pretty good headphones on, and I wished it sounded like Dark Matter. I could hear everything clearly (maybe clearer than DM) but I just wished everything was louder and had more presence. The DM mix isn't subtle. But it hits hard, and that's what I want in songs like this.
What are the strengths of a mix like Severed Hand compared to DM? Looking to learn, not argue.
That said, I think the baseline S/T mix is just a more natural presentation of the band. It doesn't feel like there is a lot of polish and sparkle on the instruments. The drums sound like real drums, not studio-enhanced-processed drums. Neither recording sounds particularly pleasing from a compression/mastering standpoint though, and depending on your playback device I can imagine "Dark Matter" coming across as fuller and crisper than either S/T mix.
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nice!Strat wrote:Using DM as a reference track, i remastered Severed Hand to stips liking. HOpe this is what you are looking for!
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my phonetragabigzanda wrote:I honestly couldn't even comprehend the audio setup that would support this conclusionKevin Davis wrote:depending on your playback device I can imagine "Dark Matter" coming across as fuller and crisper than either S/T mix.
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tragabigzanda wrote:I honestly couldn't even comprehend the audio setup that would support this conclusionKevin Davis wrote:depending on your playback device I can imagine "Dark Matter" coming across as fuller and crisper than either S/T mix.

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my asstragabigzanda wrote:I honestly couldn't even comprehend the audio setup that would support this conclusionKevin Davis wrote:depending on your playback device I can imagine "Dark Matter" coming across as fuller and crisper than either S/T mix.
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