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The Argonaut wrote:The twist at the end of The Prestige is not a deus ex machina at all. It's the point the entire movie.

LoathedVermin72 wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

LoathedVermin72 wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:Now, comedy is something I'd love to see Nolan explore. I wonder if he'd be able to pull that off.

Nolanbot is incapable of the human phenomenon you call humor

It's becoming more and more clear to me that you either really hate subtlety or you are actually incapable of noticing it. Which is not to say that I disagree with you on this point. Like I said, I'm not sure if Nolan could pull of a full blown comedy. But the rest of this conversation and your observations of Nolan in the context of the things you seem to like and react positively to, has me thinking that you have no time and find now real value in subtle nuance.

lol ok joey

The Argonaut wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

The Argonaut wrote:The twist at the end of The Prestige is not a deus ex machina at all. It's the point the entire movie.

I want to agree with you sooooo badly here but I'm afraid that if I do you'll reverse your opinion and fight me on it just because it's me. And I don't want to lose an ally.

umm, i like you, you moron

Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

tragabigzanda wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

The Argonaut wrote:The twist at the end of The Prestige is not a deus ex machina at all. It's the point the entire movie.

I want to agree with you sooooo badly here but I'm afraid that if I do you'll reverse your opinion and fight me on it just because it's me. And I don't want to lose an ally.

Can you guys refresh my memory then? Because I remember the ending sucking a lot.

Spoiler: show

The twist ending is that the Christian Bale character is actually twin brothers who have been sharing one life. Not even their wife or girlfriend or children know. That is the sort of dedication to craft that is required of true artistic mastery. Not technical razzle dazzle like Hugh Jackman. Not even to be willing to kill yourself like Hugh Jackman. It's an even more sinister and difficult dedication to go so far as to lie and cheat the people you love and to live only half a life.

Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

tragabigzanda wrote:Damn, what a great shot:

I'm instantly pulled back into the film's hazy, disorienting vibe. Nolan + Pearce command the screen for the entire running time.

tragabigzanda wrote:Thanks Argo, I had totally forgotten about that. In a perfect world I'd re-watch this soon to see if my take has changed, but that probably won't happen in real life.

VinylGuy wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:Damn, what a great shot:

I'm instantly pulled back into the film's hazy, disorienting vibe. Nolan + Pearce command the screen for the entire running time.

Thats such a cool shot. I love the missing brick at the side of the screen.

Even at his worst, Nolan films are different. You may like them or not, but there is nobody filming like him these days.

Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

tragabigzanda wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:Thanks Argo, I had totally forgotten about that. In a perfect world I'd re-watch this soon to see if my take has changed, but that probably won't happen in real life.

You had forgotten that? Then what did you think the twist was in your earlier post? What were you calling a deus ex machina?

That the one magicians had been cloning/killing himself the whole time.

The Argonaut wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:

The Argonaut wrote:The twist at the end of The Prestige is not a deus ex machina at all. It's the point the entire movie.

But there's no rational explanation to be had. Unless I'm forgetting something important, it's basically "Oh by the way this one magician learned to clone himself and has been doing it for the last 90 minutes."

That's not the twist at the end of The Prestige.

Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.