verb_to_trust wrote:What is unique enough about these canned generic speeches that can actually be considered plagiarism?
hope no one ever mentioned freedom in a speech before, or my political career is fucked.
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Wed July 20, 2016 4:34 am
by McParadigm
verb_to_trust wrote:What is unique enough about these canned generic speeches that can actually be considered plagiarism?
Consider how much ground could be regained by conservatives pointing out how borrowed the "original" speech is, and yet no effort has been made to demonstrate that.
These political sentiments have been stated and restated and restated and restated and restated. Originality is thinner in this realm than in pop music. But occasionally, plagiarism is still blatant enough to be unavoidably noticed.
In short, Anthony Kiedis is the worst thing to ever happen to any band. Thank you for your time.
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Wed July 20, 2016 4:42 am
by BurtReynolds
McParadigm wrote:
verb_to_trust wrote:What is unique enough about these canned generic speeches that can actually be considered plagiarism?
Consider how much ground could be regained by conservatives pointing out how borrowed the "original" speech is, and yet no effort has been made to demonstrate that.
These political sentiments have been stated and restated and restated and restated and restated. Originality is thinner in this realm than in pop music. But occasionally, plagiarism is still blatant enough to be unavoidably noticed.
In short, Anthony Kiedis is the worst thing to ever happen to any band. Thank you for your time.
can i steal that?
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Wed July 20, 2016 4:51 am
by McParadigm
Change at least a word, and make it about California. Then yes.
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Wed July 20, 2016 4:54 am
by BurtReynolds
you can steal my speeches, but don't you dare steal my tweets.
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Wed July 20, 2016 10:21 am
by Green Habit
So Trump and Christie want to go full Andrew Jackson and bring back the spoils system. Figures.
BurtReynolds wrote:you can steal my speeches, but don't you dare steal my tweets.
*retweets*
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Wed July 20, 2016 2:30 pm
by Biff Pocoroba
Simple Torture wrote:Some reports floating around that Trump Jr.'s speech also included some plagiarized material.
Haven't seen that but it was a great speech.
I didn't expect much from Melania's. She lifted some generic lines but in the end not a big deal. I'm ready for that controversy to be over.
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Wed July 20, 2016 3:01 pm
by Simple Torture
Biff Pocoroba wrote:
Simple Torture wrote:Some reports floating around that Trump Jr.'s speech also included some plagiarized material.
Haven't seen that but it was a great speech.
I didn't expect much from Melania's. She lifted some generic lines but in the end not a big deal. I'm ready for that controversy to be over.
The Trump Jr. thing ended up being a non-story, since the guy who wrote the speech simply re-used a metaphor from an article he had written. But the Melania stuff is just mind-blowing: why not just say "whoops" instead of blaming Clinton for the "controversy"?
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Wed July 20, 2016 4:36 pm
by Bi_3
Biff Pocoroba wrote:
Simple Torture wrote:Some reports floating around that Trump Jr.'s speech also included some plagiarized material.
Haven't seen that but it was a great speech.
I didn't expect much from Melania's. She lifted some generic lines but in the end not a big deal. I'm ready for that controversy to be over.
It's not a controversy so much as it stupid trolling of Trump. Can you imagine if everything you ever said had to be original from you?
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Wed July 20, 2016 4:42 pm
by Strat
Guys, that was blatant. And its not so much that she didnt have an original thought, or blatantly plagiarized it, its the campaign not taking any accountability for it. Its embarrassing and says a lot about how they would run the country.
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Wed July 20, 2016 4:45 pm
by Jorge
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Wed July 20, 2016 4:47 pm
by Strat
welp. great timing!
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Wed July 20, 2016 4:48 pm
by Bi_3
Strat wrote:Guys, that was blatant. And its not so much that she didnt have an original thought, or blatantly plagiarized it, its the campaign not taking any accountability for it. Its embarrassing and says a lot about how they would run the country.
She was trashed in the media and on the socials far before the debacle of how they handled it.
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Wed July 20, 2016 6:00 pm
by verb_to_trust
I still don't see how anything Michelle said was so unique and original that this needed to be blown up in the media. They both said generic crap that has probably been parroted in some form or another by every politician ever. Nothing to see here.
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Wed July 20, 2016 7:49 pm
by B
I am appalled that anyone in this country would consider allowing Trump to be President, and I thoroughly enjoyed laughing at the comparisons of Malania and Michelle's speeches, but really ... three sentences shouldn't be that big of a deal.
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Wed July 20, 2016 11:02 pm
by bune
this Twitter kerfuffle about that speachwriter has been hilarious to watch. "She's a redheaded 50 year-old." No, that's actually this person. "Wait! She's a blonde 30 year-old!" No, that's a fitness instructor. "Now she's a beautiful sunset!" Are you high right now?
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Wed July 20, 2016 11:45 pm
by 96583UP
unemployment is low
inflation is low
stocks are high
heroin is cheap
America is already Great
let's cut out all the "again" talk
and dance
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Thu July 21, 2016 1:37 am
by Simple Torture
I'm sure this is just a bad angle but holy shit is it a bad angle: