Red Mosquito

warehouse wrote:

tree_ wrote:Surely there’re deeper underlying motives

its all religious bullshit. every single argument against abortion comes down to a personal belief in a higher power judging your actions, and he does't like this action.

It’s more than that; it’s the age old practice of limiting women’s freedoms.

I really don't think, for most people, its that malicious.

If you really believed that life began at conception then the idea of abortion would be pretty abhorrent.

JuanHamm wrote:I really don't think, for most people, its that malicious.

If you really believed that life began at conception then the idea of abortion would be pretty abhorrent.

'the pope digs population
freedom from taxation'
-sixto rodriguez

JuanHamm wrote:I really don't think, for most people, its that malicious.

If you really believed that life began at conception then the idea of abortion would be pretty abhorrent.

About half of women suffer from false consciousness. Simple as.

warehouse wrote:

JuanHamm wrote:I really don't think, for most people, its that malicious.

If you really believed that life began at conception then the idea of abortion would be pretty abhorrent.

'the pope digs population
freedom from taxation'
-sixto rodriguez

I love that song.

JuanHamm wrote:I really don't think, for most people, its that malicious.

If you really believed that life began at conception then the idea of abortion would be pretty abhorrent.

I agree with you. This is why abortion is tricky. One side advocates for the woman, one for the unborn. I really don’t know how you reconcile this type of thing, but there are 2 genuine, heartfelt arguments here.

Fuck christianity

Rob wrote:

warehouse wrote:

JuanHamm wrote:I really don't think, for most people, its that malicious.

If you really believed that life began at conception then the idea of abortion would be pretty abhorrent.

'the pope digs population
freedom from taxation'
-sixto rodriguez

I love that song.

JuanHamm wrote:I really don't think, for most people, its that malicious.

If you really believed that life began at conception then the idea of abortion would be pretty abhorrent.

I agree with you. This is why abortion is tricky. One side advocates for the woman, one for the unborn. I really don’t know how you reconcile this type of thing, but there are 2 genuine, heartfelt arguments here.

If it was that simple we could solve it. A big issue is that both positions only come as part of a package deal. So if you want to vote for abortion you need to accept #Defund, open borders, equity over equality, criminals over victims, "it's an obscure legal theory not taught in schools", fuck whytee, fuck America, fuck Christians, fuck math and reading, fuck cars, fuck whytee again, fuck paying back loans, fuck businesses, weekly flag updates, someone sent your boss your old posts from alt.music.pearl-jam and now off to HR, puberty blockers for tweens, and keeping masks on toddlers during zoom school. Our culture needs to figure out a way to untangle these things if we want to keep abortion safe, private, and legal (and we most certainly do), because, as they say, support is a mile wide and an inch thick.

I dunno about all that... to be anti abortion & anti universal health-care, anti paid maternity, anti welfare, anti education, anti sex ed, sure seems like an impossible position, but folks pull it off.

Folx*

Bi_3 wrote:

Rob wrote:

warehouse wrote:

JuanHamm wrote:I really don't think, for most people, its that malicious.

If you really believed that life began at conception then the idea of abortion would be pretty abhorrent.

'the pope digs population
freedom from taxation'
-sixto rodriguez

I love that song.

JuanHamm wrote:I really don't think, for most people, its that malicious.

If you really believed that life began at conception then the idea of abortion would be pretty abhorrent.

I agree with you. This is why abortion is tricky. One side advocates for the woman, one for the unborn. I really don’t know how you reconcile this type of thing, but there are 2 genuine, heartfelt arguments here.

If it was that simple we could solve it. A big issue is that both positions only come as part of a package deal. So if you want to vote for abortion you need to accept #Defund, open borders, equity over equality, criminals over victims, "it's an obscure legal theory not taught in schools", fuck whytee, fuck America, fuck Christians, fuck math and reading, fuck cars, fuck whytee again, fuck paying back loans, fuck businesses, weekly flag updates, someone sent your boss your old posts from alt.music.pearl-jam and now off to HR, puberty blockers for tweens, and keeping masks on toddlers during zoom school. Our culture needs to figure out a way to untangle these things if we want to keep abortion safe, private, and legal (and we most certainly do), because, as they say, support is a mile wide and an inch thick.

Absolutely deranged post lmao.

verb_to_trust wrote:I read an article about phoebe bridgers basically bragging about her abortion. People like her are every bit the cretin someone who wants to force an incest baby into the world is.

I paraphrased this post in a real conversation today as an example of the most awful right wing rhetoric out there.

Bi_3 wrote:

Rob wrote:

warehouse wrote:

JuanHamm wrote:I really don't think, for most people, its that malicious.

If you really believed that life began at conception then the idea of abortion would be pretty abhorrent.

'the pope digs population
freedom from taxation'
-sixto rodriguez

I love that song.

JuanHamm wrote:I really don't think, for most people, its that malicious.

If you really believed that life began at conception then the idea of abortion would be pretty abhorrent.

I agree with you. This is why abortion is tricky. One side advocates for the woman, one for the unborn. I really don’t know how you reconcile this type of thing, but there are 2 genuine, heartfelt arguments here.

If it was that simple we could solve it. A big issue is that both positions only come as part of a package deal. So if you want to vote for abortion you need to accept #Defund, open borders, equity over equality, criminals over victims, "it's an obscure legal theory not taught in schools", fuck whytee, fuck America, fuck Christians, fuck math and reading, fuck cars, fuck whytee again, fuck paying back loans, fuck businesses, weekly flag updates, someone sent your boss your old posts from alt.music.pearl-jam and now off to HR, puberty blockers for tweens, and keeping masks on toddlers during zoom school. Our culture needs to figure out a way to untangle these things if we want to keep abortion safe, private, and legal (and we most certainly do), because, as they say, support is a mile wide and an inch thick.

The problem is the right wingers who delusionally group this all together and reject it unequivocally

Dev wrote:

verb_to_trust wrote:I read an article about phoebe bridgers basically bragging about her abortion. People like her are every bit the cretin someone who wants to force an incest baby into the world is.

I paraphrased this post in a real conversation today as an example of the most awful right wing rhetoric out there.

Glad I could help

verb_to_trust wrote:

Dev wrote:

verb_to_trust wrote:I read an article about phoebe bridgers basically bragging about her abortion. People like her are every bit the cretin someone who wants to force an incest baby into the world is.

I paraphrased this post in a real conversation today as an example of the most awful right wing rhetoric out there.

Glad I could help

Please reevaluate your politics. The biggest problem in our population is not the woke left? Trust me the right wing status quo is not your friend. No policemen or entrepreneurs or even KKK guys would be your friend. They would look down on you. woke Dev was your buddy tho.

verb_to_trust wrote:

Dev wrote:

verb_to_trust wrote:I read an article about phoebe bridgers basically bragging about her abortion. People like her are every bit the cretin someone who wants to force an incest baby into the world is.

I paraphrased this post in a real conversation today as an example of the most awful right wing rhetoric out there.

Glad I could help

If one side thinks there's moral valence to abortion and the other side does not, this sentiment can either be very understandable or absolutely bonkers.

Dev wrote:

verb_to_trust wrote:

Dev wrote:

verb_to_trust wrote:I read an article about phoebe bridgers basically bragging about her abortion. People like her are every bit the cretin someone who wants to force an incest baby into the world is.

I paraphrased this post in a real conversation today as an example of the most awful right wing rhetoric out there.

Glad I could help

Please reevaluate your politics. The biggest problem in our population is not the woke left? Trust me the right wing status quo is not your friend. No policemen or entrepreneurs or even KKK guys would be your friend. They would look down on you. woke Dev was your buddy tho.

I just don’t get women wearing their abortion as a badge of honor, that’s all. Some of them talk about it like it’s acupuncture or something. Super weird.

verb_to_trust wrote:

Dev wrote:

verb_to_trust wrote:

Dev wrote:

verb_to_trust wrote:I read an article about phoebe bridgers basically bragging about her abortion. People like her are every bit the cretin someone who wants to force an incest baby into the world is.

I paraphrased this post in a real conversation today as an example of the most awful right wing rhetoric out there.

Glad I could help

Please reevaluate your politics. The biggest problem in our population is not the woke left? Trust me the right wing status quo is not your friend. No policemen or entrepreneurs or even KKK guys would be your friend. They would look down on you. woke Dev was your buddy tho.

I just don’t get women wearing their abortion as a badge of honor, that’s all. Some of them talk about it like it’s acupuncture or something. Super weird.

I don't think they do tho. Find me an actual example.

Dev wrote:

verb_to_trust wrote:

Dev wrote:

verb_to_trust wrote:

Dev wrote:

verb_to_trust wrote:I read an article about phoebe bridgers basically bragging about her abortion. People like her are every bit the cretin someone who wants to force an incest baby into the world is.

I paraphrased this post in a real conversation today as an example of the most awful right wing rhetoric out there.

Glad I could help

Please reevaluate your politics. The biggest problem in our population is not the woke left? Trust me the right wing status quo is not your friend. No policemen or entrepreneurs or even KKK guys would be your friend. They would look down on you. woke Dev was your buddy tho.

I just don’t get women wearing their abortion as a badge of honor, that’s all. Some of them talk about it like it’s acupuncture or something. Super weird.

I don't think they do tho. Find me an actual example.

Phoebe Bridgers

verb_to_trust wrote:

Dev wrote:

verb_to_trust wrote:

Dev wrote:

verb_to_trust wrote:

Dev wrote:

verb_to_trust wrote:I read an article about phoebe bridgers basically bragging about her abortion. People like her are every bit the cretin someone who wants to force an incest baby into the world is.

I paraphrased this post in a real conversation today as an example of the most awful right wing rhetoric out there.

Glad I could help

Please reevaluate your politics. The biggest problem in our population is not the woke left? Trust me the right wing status quo is not your friend. No policemen or entrepreneurs or even KKK guys would be your friend. They would look down on you. woke Dev was your buddy tho.

I just don’t get women wearing their abortion as a badge of honor, that’s all. Some of them talk about it like it’s acupuncture or something. Super weird.

I don't think they do tho. Find me an actual example.

Phoebe Bridgers

What video? But even if its really as bad as you say so what? It's anecdotal evidence. Why are you using the absolute worst example to define the left? And why don't you do the same when defining the right wing school of thought you are apparently a member of? And do you realize that social media is brainwashing you because it sends you the article about the worst example of left wing politics that it knows will provoke you and confirm your beliefs? You gotta be more objective, buddy. Because your politics have become inexcusable.

Dev wrote:

verb_to_trust wrote:

Dev wrote:

verb_to_trust wrote:

Dev wrote:

verb_to_trust wrote:

Dev wrote:

verb_to_trust wrote:I read an article about phoebe bridgers basically bragging about her abortion. People like her are every bit the cretin someone who wants to force an incest baby into the world is.

I paraphrased this post in a real conversation today as an example of the most awful right wing rhetoric out there.

Glad I could help

Please reevaluate your politics. The biggest problem in our population is not the woke left? Trust me the right wing status quo is not your friend. No policemen or entrepreneurs or even KKK guys would be your friend. They would look down on you. woke Dev was your buddy tho.

I just don’t get women wearing their abortion as a badge of honor, that’s all. Some of them talk about it like it’s acupuncture or something. Super weird.

I don't think they do tho. Find me an actual example.

Phoebe Bridgers

What video? But even if its really as bad as you say so what? It's anecdotal evidence. Why are you using the absolute worst example to define the left? And why don't you do the same when defining the right wing school of thought you are apparently a member of? And do you realize that social media is brainwashing you because it sends you the article about the worst example of left wing politics that it knows will provoke you and confirm your beliefs? You gotta be more objective, buddy. Because your politics have become inexcusable.

Was "shout your abortion" a fringe thing or did it get otherwise sane people to get onboard? Nutpicking is always a risk, but generally people on the right are better at explaining the actual views of people on the left than vice versa.