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Also not changing Luke's last name was a weird choice by his adoptive parents

Jorge wrote:How does she know the boy is called Luke Skywalker

It is not shown in the series, so we don’t know if she does or not. But that’s his name, and she is an authority from the empire. She is shown asking a water dealer about them. Her job was to investigate, to look for force users. Although in episode 5, she goes against that and almost dies from fighting Vader. I think it would be unlikely that she would just continue her job in episode six.

None of the sw pods I listen to so far have even mentioned it. And they’re insightful lads almost all of them. I dont think this one is possible. And I love a good what if? In anything in Star Wars. We should tweet Moses Ingram and ask

Jorge wrote:Also not changing Luke's last name was a weird choice by his adoptive parents

It is weird.

Some possible explanations include: they didn't tell him his real last name until he was much older, no one else on Tatooine knows it, and Skywalker is a super common last name in that galaxy, like Smith is in the US.

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That’s fucking funny

epilogue wrote:

Jorge wrote:Also not changing Luke's last name was a weird choice by his adoptive parents

It is weird.

Some possible explanations include: they didn't tell him his real last name until he was much older, no one else on Tatooine knows it, and Skywalker is a super common last name in that galaxy, like Smith is in the US.

The real reason is that when the script was written, Luke’s father and Darth Vader we’re not the same person. It’s when that was changed with the ESB script that everything got so complicated.

Lads.

She somehow knew Luke was Vaders son having never met him but *didnt* know Leia was his daughter and Leia fought back her force mind probe thing while she had her in custody and read her strength and could have killed her as a force capable kid?


You’re all talking absolute bollox I’m afraid to say

wease wrote:

epilogue wrote:

Jorge wrote:Also not changing Luke's last name was a weird choice by his adoptive parents

It is weird.

Some possible explanations include: they didn't tell him his real last name until he was much older, no one else on Tatooine knows it, and Skywalker is a super common last name in that galaxy, like Smith is in the US.

The real reason is that when the script was written, Luke’s father and Darth Vader we’re not the same person. It’s when that was changed with the ESB script that everything got so complicated.

Exactly.

Retconning is a proud Star Wars tradition going all the way back.

dimejinky99 wrote:Lads.

She somehow knew Luke was Vaders son having never met him but *didnt* know Leia was his daughter and Leia fought back her force mind probe thing while she had her in custody and read her strength and could have killed her as a force capable kid?


You’re all talking absolute bollox I’m afraid to say

If she figured it out, she did so after Leia escaped. She didn't know when she had her. So your argument doesn't really hold up.

But again, I don't think it matters either way.

Shit. The emperor questioning Vaders loyalty and commitment.

He then went and found another apprentice

dimejinky99 wrote:Lads.

She somehow knew Luke was Vaders son having never met him but *didnt* know Leia was his daughter and Leia fought back her force mind probe thing while she had her in custody and read her strength and could have killed her as a force capable kid?


You’re all talking absolute bollox I’m afraid to say

Leia isn’t called Skywalker, and it was also before she had the added information.

epilogue wrote:

Jorge wrote:Also not changing Luke's last name was a weird choice by his adoptive parents

It is weird.

Some possible explanations include: a) they didn't tell him his real last name until he was much older, b) no one else on Tatooine knows it, and c) Skywalker is a super common last name in that galaxy, like Smith is in the US.

A) he appears to have the name in school and everywhere, in any possible canon or legend.
B) look to answer a
C) Unlikely. No one else in Star Wars has ever popped up with that last name. There are probably others, but like Smith seems a stretch, even for something impossible to fully measure like the SW universe.

wease wrote:

epilogue wrote:

Jorge wrote:Also not changing Luke's last name was a weird choice by his adoptive parents

It is weird.

Some possible explanations include: they didn't tell him his real last name until he was much older, no one else on Tatooine knows it, and Skywalker is a super common last name in that galaxy, like Smith is in the US.

The real reason is that when the script was written, Luke’s father and Darth Vader we’re not the same person. It’s when that was changed with the ESB script that everything got so complicated.

What SW canon (mostly the the movies) was like after ROTJ was released is a lot more important than what Lucas has in mind in 1976/77. These changes happen all the time, with a lot of authors/directors.

epilogue wrote:

wease wrote:

epilogue wrote:

Jorge wrote:Also not changing Luke's last name was a weird choice by his adoptive parents

It is weird.

Some possible explanations include: they didn't tell him his real last name until he was much older, no one else on Tatooine knows it, and Skywalker is a super common last name in that galaxy, like Smith is in the US.

The real reason is that when the script was written, Luke’s father and Darth Vader we’re not the same person. It’s when that was changed with the ESB script that everything got so complicated.

Exactly.

Retconning is a proud Star Wars tradition going all the way back.

Except they got lucky in 1980 and it worked out. Now everything is a mess with all this SW “lore”

Anders wrote:

epilogue wrote:

Jorge wrote:Also not changing Luke's last name was a weird choice by his adoptive parents

It is weird.

Some possible explanations include: a) they didn't tell him his real last name until he was much older, b) no one else on Tatooine knows it, and c) Skywalker is a super common last name in that galaxy, like Smith is in the US.

A) he appears to have the name in school and everywhere, in any possible canon or legend.
B) look to answer a
C) Unlikely. No one else in Star Wars has ever popped up with that last name. There are probably others, but like Smith seems a stretch, even for something impossible to fully measure like the SW universe.

I'm pretty sure Lucas said Skywalker is a common name in the galaxy. But I don't have the quote in front of me.

blueviper wrote:

epilogue wrote:

wease wrote:

epilogue wrote:

Jorge wrote:Also not changing Luke's last name was a weird choice by his adoptive parents

It is weird.

Some possible explanations include: they didn't tell him his real last name until he was much older, no one else on Tatooine knows it, and Skywalker is a super common last name in that galaxy, like Smith is in the US.

The real reason is that when the script was written, Luke’s father and Darth Vader we’re not the same person. It’s when that was changed with the ESB script that everything got so complicated.

Exactly.

Retconning is a proud Star Wars tradition going all the way back.

Except they got lucky in 1980 and it worked out. Now everything is a mess with all this SW “lore”

I think a lot of people feel that it worked because they were kids when they saw it and accepted it. It's what they grew up with. My Dad told me all the time about how the Empire reveal messed up the original. And then it was cringey even they doubled down with "a certain point of view" in Jedi.

Oh and there's Leia now too!!!!

This stuff has always been fluid and wonky. The current stuff works just as well as the old stuff, for me. If anything the problem is that there's so much new stuff. So we keep having to think about it and recycle this conversation.

epilogue wrote:

dimejinky99 wrote:Lads.

She somehow knew Luke was Vaders son having never met him but *didnt* know Leia was his daughter and Leia fought back her force mind probe thing while she had her in custody and read her strength and could have killed her as a force capable kid?


You’re all talking absolute bollox I’m afraid to say

If she figured it out, she did so after Leia escaped. She didn't know when she had her. So your argument doesn't really hold up.

But again, I don't think it matters either way.

And if any of that nonsense was in the story it would be.

And it isn’t.

Anders wrote:

dimejinky99 wrote:Lads.

She somehow knew Luke was Vaders son having never met him but *didnt* know Leia was his daughter and Leia fought back her force mind probe thing while she had her in custody and read her strength and could have killed her as a force capable kid?


You’re all talking absolute bollox I’m afraid to say

Leia isn’t called Skywalker, and it was also before she had the added information.

Nobody said Skywalker. In that message or anywhere.
And you know it.

This is some tiresome bullshit. Have at it.

Just doesn’t make sense that she would just carry on with her old job for no special reason, and just murder a child on her own without reporting it at all. She also got there healthy and faster than Obi-Wan, after nearly being killed in the previous episode. Something odd about it. Him being a Skywalker at least gives her added reason.