Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.
Re: The Cinematic Motion Picture News Thread
Posted: Thu July 06, 2017 9:30 pm
by LoathedVermin72
VinylGuy wrote:LV i know the answer but tell me...
Michael Bay or Nolan?
Well, lets see. Bay is one of my favorite directors ever. Nolan is one of my least favorite. So...Bay.
Re: The Cinematic Motion Picture News Thread
Posted: Thu July 06, 2017 9:31 pm
by LoathedVermin72
Also, I guarantee A Ghost Story is going to unwatchable garbage. Ain't Them Bodies Saints was atrocious. And now he's making art horror nonsense. Ugh.
Re: The Cinematic Motion Picture News Thread
Posted: Thu July 06, 2017 9:37 pm
by The Argonaut
Ghost Story looks good to me.
Re: The Cinematic Motion Picture News Thread
Posted: Thu July 06, 2017 9:55 pm
by VinylGuy
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:LV i know the answer but tell me...
Michael Bay or Nolan?
Well, lets see. Bay is one of my favorite directors ever. Nolan is one of my least favorite. So...Bay.
Batman & Robin or The Dark Knight?
Re: The Cinematic Motion Picture News Thread
Posted: Thu July 06, 2017 9:57 pm
by LoathedVermin72
VinylGuy wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:LV i know the answer but tell me...
Michael Bay or Nolan?
Well, lets see. Bay is one of my favorite directors ever. Nolan is one of my least favorite. So...Bay.
Batman & Robin or The Dark Knight?
Batman & Robin, duh.
Re: The Cinematic Motion Picture News Thread
Posted: Thu July 06, 2017 11:28 pm
by epilogue
LoathedVermin72 wrote:Also, I guarantee A Ghost Story is going to unwatchable garbage. Ain't Them Bodies Saints was atrocious. And now he's making art horror nonsense. Ugh.
Actually, I think he's been super clear that the film is in no way a "horror" or "art horror" film. I think you can let that go.
Re: The Cinematic Motion Picture News Thread
Posted: Thu July 06, 2017 11:30 pm
by epilogue
bodysnatcher wrote:Looking forward to this. The sentiment in this trailer exactly matches the thoughts I've been having over the past year or so.
I admit, I'm intrigued to see what this movie actually is. If it's just the trailer, I'll be bummed. Because that 3 minutes is pretty concise and interesting on its own. I'm not sure how to expand that into a full length feature. Depends on where it goes and what it's actually exploring. But I'd definitely be interested in watching more once I see a second trailer or read a bit about what the thing actually is.
Re: The Cinematic Motion Picture News Thread
Posted: Fri July 07, 2017 1:09 am
by LoathedVermin72
durdencommatyler wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:Also, I guarantee A Ghost Story is going to unwatchable garbage. Ain't Them Bodies Saints was atrocious. And now he's making art horror nonsense. Ugh.
Actually, I think he's been super clear that the film is in no way a "horror" or "art horror" film. I think you can let that go.
That's exactly what every pretentious dickhead who makes one of these shit movies says.
Re: The Cinematic Motion Picture News Thread
Posted: Fri July 07, 2017 1:11 am
by epilogue
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:Also, I guarantee A Ghost Story is going to unwatchable garbage. Ain't Them Bodies Saints was atrocious. And now he's making art horror nonsense. Ugh.
Actually, I think he's been super clear that the film is in no way a "horror" or "art horror" film. I think you can let that go.
That's exactly what every pretentious dickhead who makes one of these shit movies says.
wat
Re: The Cinematic Motion Picture News Thread
Posted: Fri July 07, 2017 1:15 am
by LoathedVermin72
durdencommatyler wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:Also, I guarantee A Ghost Story is going to unwatchable garbage. Ain't Them Bodies Saints was atrocious. And now he's making art horror nonsense. Ugh.
Actually, I think he's been super clear that the film is in no way a "horror" or "art horror" film. I think you can let that go.
That's exactly what every pretentious dickhead who makes one of these shit movies says.
wat
The Witch, It Follows, It Comes at Night, et al. The guys who make these movies are always very eager to let everyone know they are "not horror" or "more than just a horror movie." This attitude is a cancer.
Re: The Cinematic Motion Picture News Thread
Posted: Fri July 07, 2017 1:21 am
by epilogue
Okay. Whatever. You obviously have some kind of baggage you're attaching to this. I can't pretend to speak to that. It seems narrow and absurd and unfair to me but it's yours and I know you think about this stuff a lot. So, benefit of the doubt and all that.
Anyway, I'm sure there's nothing I can say that will change your mind. But I believe him when he says it's not a horror film. All you have to do is watch the trailer. It's clearly not a horror film and has no intention of borrowing from/aping/expanding/changing the genre at all. It's obviously a drama about loss.
Re: The Cinematic Motion Picture News Thread
Posted: Fri July 07, 2017 1:26 am
by LoathedVermin72
Shitloads of horror movies are dramas about loss. They're just not pretentious about it.
Re: The Cinematic Motion Picture News Thread
Posted: Fri July 07, 2017 1:27 am
by epilogue
I'm not sure how to have this conversation with you.
Re: The Cinematic Motion Picture News Thread
Posted: Fri July 07, 2017 1:28 am
by LoathedVermin72
Watch a few hundred horror movies and then get back to me.
Re: The Cinematic Motion Picture News Thread
Posted: Fri July 07, 2017 1:31 am
by The Argonaut
LV, you're difficult to converse with when you get like this.
Re: The Cinematic Motion Picture News Thread
Posted: Fri July 07, 2017 1:32 am
by Jorge
He hasn't even pulled out the eyeroll and lol smileys yet, c'mon.
Re: The Cinematic Motion Picture News Thread
Posted: Fri July 07, 2017 1:33 am
by Jorge
Wait nevermind there's one right there
Re: The Cinematic Motion Picture News Thread
Posted: Fri July 07, 2017 1:34 am
by LoathedVermin72
Re: The Cinematic Motion Picture News Thread
Posted: Fri July 07, 2017 1:35 am
by epilogue
What I'm saying.... And see if you can try and track me on this... is that: This. Is. Not. A. Horror. Film. It. Is. A. Drama. It. Is. Not. A. Horror. Film. About. Loss. It. Is. A. Drama. About. Loss. I'm not sure why you need to hate this for reasons that seemingly don't apply. I get that you're a horror fan and a guru and an super expert and all of that. I do. I get it. I'll forever defer to you on this because I fucking hate horror films, for the most part. I'm not questioning your credentials here.
But it really seems like you're moving the goalposts just so you can hate it. And don't get me wrong, I don't care if you like the movie or not. Please feel free to hate it for what it is. But I'm not sure why you need to dump a bunch of shit on top of it just so you can hate it in advance for what it mostlikely isn't.
It might be a terrible fucking movie. I have no idea. But when the fucking writer/director, the guy who actually made the fucking movie, chooses to define the projecct a certain way, why do you want to fight that? How come you get to decide, before even seeing it, that it's something else? How come you get to define it instead of the film maker? That's where I'm having trouble following you.
Shitloads of horror movies are dramas about loss. They're just not pretentious about it.