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Re: You Will Drink Good BEER ... And It Will Be Delicious!

Posted: Wed March 15, 2017 5:59 pm
by Chris_H_2
i can't imagine how much the flavors have fallen off in the oracle, which was bottled last august.

Re: You Will Drink Good BEER ... And It Will Be Delicious!

Posted: Wed March 15, 2017 7:26 pm
by doone
So how do you choose which to age?

Re: You Will Drink Good BEER ... And It Will Be Delicious!

Posted: Wed March 15, 2017 8:09 pm
by Chris_H_2
doone wrote:So how do you choose which to age?
really, any non-IPA (or APA), lager, pilsner where the hops degrade with time.

so as a rule of thumb, typically stouts, porters, barleywines, wild ales, or lambics can be good to age. in fact, with bourbon-barrel aged stouts and porters, i like to age them for at least 4-6 months to let the heat die off (otherwise you're not tasting the underlying beer, but just the barrel).

as a caveat, though: be careful with stouts aged with subtle additives such as vanilla, cocoa, coconut, etc. the longer you age them, the greater likelihood that those flavors will eventually fall off.

Re: You Will Drink Good BEER ... And It Will Be Delicious!

Posted: Wed March 15, 2017 8:10 pm
by tragabigzanda
from the ashes of tonkotsu

Re: You Will Drink Good BEER ... And It Will Be Delicious!

Posted: Wed March 15, 2017 8:13 pm
by Chris_H_2
tragabigzanda wrote:
Chris_H_2 wrote:
doone wrote:So how do you choose which to age?
really, any non-IPA (or APA), lager, pilsner where the hops degrade with time.

so as a rule of thumb, typically stouts, porters, barleywines, wild ales, or lambics can be good to age. in fact, with bourbon-barrel aged stouts and porters, i like to age them for at least 4-6 months to let the heat die off (otherwise you're not tasting the underlying beer, but just the barrel).

as a caveat, though: be careful with stouts aged with subtle additives such as vanilla, cocoa, coconut, etc. the longer you age them, the greater likelihood that those flavors will eventually fall off.
Hahaha, those aren't beers.
$500 per bottle begs to differ

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Re: You Will Drink Good BEER ... And It Will Be Delicious!

Posted: Wed March 15, 2017 8:15 pm
by tragabigzanda
from the ashes of tonkotsu

Re: You Will Drink Good BEER ... And It Will Be Delicious!

Posted: Wed March 15, 2017 8:16 pm
by Chris_H_2
tragabigzanda wrote:
Chris_H_2 wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
Chris_H_2 wrote:
doone wrote:So how do you choose which to age?
really, any non-IPA (or APA), lager, pilsner where the hops degrade with time.

so as a rule of thumb, typically stouts, porters, barleywines, wild ales, or lambics can be good to age. in fact, with bourbon-barrel aged stouts and porters, i like to age them for at least 4-6 months to let the heat die off (otherwise you're not tasting the underlying beer, but just the barrel).

as a caveat, though: be careful with stouts aged with subtle additives such as vanilla, cocoa, coconut, etc. the longer you age them, the greater likelihood that those flavors will eventually fall off.
Hahaha, those aren't beers.
$500 per bottle begs to differ

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It doesn't even say "beer" on the bottle!
i added more

Re: You Will Drink Good BEER ... And It Will Be Delicious!

Posted: Wed March 15, 2017 8:16 pm
by Chris_H_2
seriously trag, you should try to come to chicago next november for the festival of barrel-aged beers. you'd really like it. you basically get whalz bro from everywhere.

Re: You Will Drink Good BEER ... And It Will Be Delicious!

Posted: Wed March 15, 2017 8:17 pm
by doug rr
your house and porch look nice

Re: You Will Drink Good BEER ... And It Will Be Delicious!

Posted: Wed March 15, 2017 8:18 pm
by Chris_H_2
doug rr wrote:your house and porch look nice
real wood!

Re: You Will Drink Good BEER ... And It Will Be Delicious!

Posted: Wed March 15, 2017 8:20 pm
by tragabigzanda
from the ashes of tonkotsu

Re: You Will Drink Good BEER ... And It Will Be Delicious!

Posted: Wed March 15, 2017 8:22 pm
by doug rr
tragabigzanda wrote:I'm busting balls...
I love beer, but my problem is that I've got a tiny frame -- I'm good for maybe two beers before the bloating takes over. Which is why I tend to be more active in the Whiskey thread (and RM needs a good wine thread, BTW). But I will say that apart from coffee porter/stouts (many of which I love), I have yet to experience a "flavored" beer, or beer made with adjuncts, that holds a candle to any of the great Germanic beers made with just hops, barley, yeast, and water. So while I'm really blown away by phatj's beer collection (righetous!), I haven't had too many of those beers; and most times that I try a new beer, it's typically an American microbrew made in the Germanic style.
we have a wine thread somewhere..it just needs to be dusted off and brought back to life

Re: You Will Drink Good BEER ... And It Will Be Delicious!

Posted: Wed March 15, 2017 8:22 pm
by doug rr
Chris_H_2 wrote:
doug rr wrote:your house and porch look nice
real wood!
i'll be having my first beers this weekend in over 6 months

Re: You Will Drink Good BEER ... And It Will Be Delicious!

Posted: Wed March 15, 2017 8:31 pm
by Chris_H_2
doug rr wrote:
Chris_H_2 wrote:
doug rr wrote:your house and porch look nice
real wood!
i'll be having my first beers this weekend in over 6 months
i land in la on sunday. not good timing.

Re: You Will Drink Good BEER ... And It Will Be Delicious!

Posted: Wed March 15, 2017 8:33 pm
by Chris_H_2
tragabigzanda wrote:I'm busting balls...
I love beer, but my problem is that I've got a tiny frame -- I'm good for maybe two beers before the bloating takes over. Which is why I tend to be more active in the Whiskey thread (and RM needs a good wine thread, BTW). But I will say that apart from coffee porter/stouts (many of which I love), I have yet to experience a "flavored" beer, or beer made with adjuncts, that holds a candle to any of the great Germanic beers made with just hops, barley, yeast, and water. So while I'm really blown away by phatj's beer collection (righetous!), I haven't had too many of those beers; and most times that I try a new beer, it's typically an American microbrew made in the Germanic style.
it's definitely an acquired taste. the problem with most of those beers is that they come in 22 oz or .750 ml format, and it's nearly impossible to drink one by yourself at 12% ABV+

that's why i'm more into sours than anything. they're barrel-aged, but they typically ring in at sub 6.5%. plus they're amazing. drinking a peach or apricot wild ale in the summer is pretty cathartic.

Re: You Will Drink Good BEER ... And It Will Be Delicious!

Posted: Wed March 15, 2017 8:34 pm
by doug rr
Chris_H_2 wrote:
doug rr wrote:
Chris_H_2 wrote:
doug rr wrote:your house and porch look nice
real wood!
i'll be having my first beers this weekend in over 6 months
i land in la on sunday. not good timing.
i forget, why are you here again?

Re: You Will Drink Good BEER ... And It Will Be Delicious!

Posted: Wed March 15, 2017 8:35 pm
by Chris_H_2
doug rr wrote:
Chris_H_2 wrote:
doug rr wrote:
Chris_H_2 wrote:
doug rr wrote:your house and porch look nice
real wood!
i'll be having my first beers this weekend in over 6 months
i land in la on sunday. not good timing.
i forget, why are you here again?
i have a mediation on monday.

Re: You Will Drink Good BEER ... And It Will Be Delicious!

Posted: Wed March 15, 2017 8:36 pm
by doug rr
Chris_H_2 wrote:
doug rr wrote:
Chris_H_2 wrote:
doug rr wrote:
Chris_H_2 wrote:
doug rr wrote:your house and porch look nice
real wood!
i'll be having my first beers this weekend in over 6 months
i land in la on sunday. not good timing.
i forget, why are you here again?
i have a mediation on monday.
where? i'm back on tuesday

Re: You Will Drink Good BEER ... And It Will Be Delicious!

Posted: Wed March 15, 2017 8:40 pm
by Chris_H_2
doug rr wrote:
Chris_H_2 wrote:
doug rr wrote:
Chris_H_2 wrote:
doug rr wrote:
Chris_H_2 wrote:
doug rr wrote:your house and porch look nice
real wood!
i'll be having my first beers this weekend in over 6 months
i land in la on sunday. not good timing.
i forget, why are you here again?
i have a mediation on monday.
where? i'm back on tuesday
downtown

i leave monday night though

Re: You Will Drink Good BEER ... And It Will Be Delicious!

Posted: Wed March 15, 2017 8:42 pm
by doug rr
Chris_H_2 wrote:
doug rr wrote:
Chris_H_2 wrote:
doug rr wrote:
Chris_H_2 wrote:
doug rr wrote:
Chris_H_2 wrote:
doug rr wrote:your house and porch look nice
real wood!
i'll be having my first beers this weekend in over 6 months
i land in la on sunday. not good timing.
i forget, why are you here again?
i have a mediation on monday.
where? i'm back on tuesday
downtown

i leave monday night though
welp..anyway, go get chicken at howling ray's in chinatown on sunday or a french dip at philippe's