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Re: Cops Are The Worst

Posted: Mon June 15, 2020 6:42 pm
by Bi_3
tree, you're not helping here.

Re: Cops Are The Worst

Posted: Mon June 15, 2020 6:43 pm
by Mickey
Doesn't tree_ have his own thread where he had *literally* the same debate with himself last week?

Re: Cops Are The Worst

Posted: Mon June 15, 2020 6:44 pm
by tree_
Bi_3 wrote:tree, you're not helping here.
How so?

Re: Cops Are The Worst

Posted: Mon June 15, 2020 6:45 pm
by B
Bi_3 wrote:tree, you're not helping here.
:lol:

Re: Cops Are The Worst

Posted: Mon June 15, 2020 6:47 pm
by tree_

Re: Cops Are The Worst

Posted: Mon June 15, 2020 6:52 pm
by tree_
Mickey wrote:Doesn't tree_ have his own thread where he had *literally* the same debate with himself last week?
Because this is the first time and place you've posted on the subject.

Re: Cops Are The Worst

Posted: Mon June 15, 2020 6:55 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
Sounds like tree has made up his open mind, so I can lock his other thread, right?

Re: Cops Are The Worst

Posted: Mon June 15, 2020 6:57 pm
by Mickey
E.H. Ruddock wrote:Sounds like tree has made up his open mind, so I can lock his other thread, right?
Can't his posts just be moved there and treated like Hamsterdam?

Re: Cops Are The Worst

Posted: Mon June 15, 2020 6:57 pm
by tree_
E.H. Ruddock wrote:Sounds like tree has made up his open mind, so I can lock his other thread, right?
Have you seen that I admitted to have discovered there is actually systemic racism in the US today? There is systemic racism, but it isn't everywhere in every institution, and it's not an epidemic in the police, according to data.

Re: Cops Are The Worst

Posted: Mon June 15, 2020 7:10 pm
by elliseamos
Bi_3 wrote:
elliseamos wrote:
Bi_3 wrote: If the suspect, who had already initiated a violent confrontation and assaulted two cops and stolen a weapon from one of them, had hit the cop with the taser he would have access to a very lethal weapon and he had literally just proven he was willing to take and use a cop's weapon and had no issue with violently attacking them.
He was running away from them.

The first instinct in this situation should be: let him run, we know where you sleep, foolish drunkard.
He committed two acts of assault against an officer and stole a weapon from them, he was not just acting like a foolish drunkard.
I'd say the things you're describing are exactly the actions of a drunk man. You think this guy starts fights on a regular basis? Or might his judgment have been impaired?
Bi_3 wrote: It's a tragedy, but it's not a murder like people who should know better like Stacey Abrams have claimed, and not even close to the same realm as George Floyd.
No, it is not murder, but:

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2020/06/15/pol ... icide.html

Re: Cops Are The Worst

Posted: Mon June 15, 2020 7:12 pm
by wease
Bi_3 wrote:tree, you're not helping here.
Did you really expect him to be?

Re: Cops Are The Worst

Posted: Mon June 15, 2020 7:15 pm
by wease
E.H. Ruddock wrote:Sounds like tree has made up his open mind, so I can lock his other thread, right?
You could do us all one better and take care of it.

Re: Cops Are The Worst

Posted: Mon June 15, 2020 8:48 pm
by knee tunes
tree_ wrote:
Also, cooperate with police or you're putting your life in danger. This should be the message. Not the lie that cops are hunting blacks in the streets.
George Floyd cooperated with Police

Re: Cops Are The Worst

Posted: Mon June 15, 2020 8:54 pm
by tree_
knee tunes wrote:
tree_ wrote:
Also, cooperate with police or you're putting your life in danger. This should be the message. Not the lie that cops are hunting blacks in the streets.
George Floyd cooperated with Police
That was a horror show. It is one incident in no way indicative that all or even most police encounters go this way. It is also not proof of an epidemic of police racism.

Re: Cops Are The Worst

Posted: Mon June 15, 2020 9:34 pm
by knee tunes
tree_ wrote:
knee tunes wrote:
tree_ wrote:
Also, cooperate with police or you're putting your life in danger. This should be the message. Not the lie that cops are hunting blacks in the streets.
George Floyd cooperated with Police
That was a horror show. It is one incident in no way indicative that all or even most police encounters go this way. It is also not proof of an epidemic of police racism.
You're correct .

But cooperating with police isn't a guarantee that you're not going to die. Floyd wasn't the only incident.

Also, not cooperating with police shouldn't be a death sentence.

Also this is just the cop thread. Not the racist cop thread

Re: Cops Are The Worst

Posted: Mon June 15, 2020 9:57 pm
by tree_
knee tunes wrote:
tree_ wrote:
knee tunes wrote:
tree_ wrote:
Also, cooperate with police or you're putting your life in danger. This should be the message. Not the lie that cops are hunting blacks in the streets.
George Floyd cooperated with Police
That was a horror show. It is one incident in no way indicative that all or even most police encounters go this way. It is also not proof of an epidemic of police racism.
You're correct .

But cooperating with police isn't a guarantee that you're not going to die. Floyd wasn't the only incident.

Also, not cooperating with police shouldn't be a death sentence.

Also this is just the cop thread. Not the racist cop thread
you're not guaranteed to get struck by lightning if you walk outside.. but if you carry a lightning rod in a thunderstorm you're increasing your chances ... If you look at the data, this is actually a good analogy

Re: Cops Are The Worst

Posted: Mon June 15, 2020 10:06 pm
by tree_
What is it, 14 million police encounters a year and 1000 deaths? Lightning strike odds

Re: Cops Are The Worst

Posted: Mon June 15, 2020 10:08 pm
by verb_to_trust
When you think about the huge number of calls cops go on, that cops shoot 1,000 people or so a year, and that the overwhelming majority of those are justifiable getting shot by a cop would be like getting struck by lightning. It just happens more to black people. That's what's fucked up about it. Can you imagine if lighting had it out for black people more that whites for some reason?

Re: Cops Are The Worst

Posted: Mon June 15, 2020 10:09 pm
by verb_to_trust
tree_ wrote:What is it, 14 million police encounters a year and 1000 deaths? Lightning strike odds
Fuck tree just let me post

Re: Cops Are The Worst

Posted: Mon June 15, 2020 10:12 pm
by digster
tree_ wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:Sounds like tree has made up his open mind, so I can lock his other thread, right?
Have you seen that I admitted to have discovered there is actually systemic racism in the US today? There is systemic racism, but it isn't everywhere in every institution, and it's not an epidemic in the police, according to data.
Damn, you figured this out and decided in, like, 36 hours? That's impressive.