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Re: MLB

Posted: Wed September 24, 2014 3:09 pm
by @SkitchP
BigRedLedbetter wrote:
philpritchard wrote:
Bammer wrote:Talk about running out of gas. Don't look at Felix's line today.
I looked at it. I enjoyed it.

5.23 career ERA against the Jays in 13 starts. Weird.
Even weirder....

In 42 career starts against the Rangers Felix is 12-21 (22.8% of his career losses) with a 4.01 ERA. Considering half of those Rangers teams were under .500 that's interesting. Nothing against Felix....he is great.
That's like the fact I spent the better part of the last 10 years thinking CC Sabathia was way overrated because of his performances entirely against the tigers.

Re: MLB

Posted: Wed September 24, 2014 3:12 pm
by BigRedLedbetter
@SkitchP wrote:
BigRedLedbetter wrote:
philpritchard wrote:
Bammer wrote:Talk about running out of gas. Don't look at Felix's line today.
I looked at it. I enjoyed it.

5.23 career ERA against the Jays in 13 starts. Weird.
Even weirder....

In 42 career starts against the Rangers Felix is 12-21 (22.8% of his career losses) with a 4.01 ERA. Considering half of those Rangers teams were under .500 that's interesting. Nothing against Felix....he is great.
That's like the fact I spent the better part of the last 10 years thinking CC Sabathia was way overrated because of his performances entirely against the tigers.
Totally different. I don't think Felix is overrated whatsoever. A career ERA of 2.60 at Fenway (8 starts) and 1.37 ERA at new Yankee Stadium in 7 starts.

Re: MLB

Posted: Wed September 24, 2014 3:21 pm
by @SkitchP
BigRedLedbetter wrote:
@SkitchP wrote:
BigRedLedbetter wrote:
philpritchard wrote:
Bammer wrote:Talk about running out of gas. Don't look at Felix's line today.
I looked at it. I enjoyed it.

5.23 career ERA against the Jays in 13 starts. Weird.
Even weirder....

In 42 career starts against the Rangers Felix is 12-21 (22.8% of his career losses) with a 4.01 ERA. Considering half of those Rangers teams were under .500 that's interesting. Nothing against Felix....he is great.
That's like the fact I spent the better part of the last 10 years thinking CC Sabathia was way overrated because of his performances entirely against the tigers.
Totally different. I don't think Felix is overrated whatsoever. A career ERA of 2.60 at Fenway (8 starts) and 1.37 ERA at new Yankee Stadium in 7 starts.

Yeah, i phrased that poorly. I just was relaying a situation of an otherwise great pitcher inexplicably struggling against a franchise.

Re: MLB

Posted: Wed September 24, 2014 3:34 pm
by BigRedLedbetter
@SkitchP wrote:
BigRedLedbetter wrote:
@SkitchP wrote:
BigRedLedbetter wrote:
philpritchard wrote:
Bammer wrote:Talk about running out of gas. Don't look at Felix's line today.
I looked at it. I enjoyed it.

5.23 career ERA against the Jays in 13 starts. Weird.
Even weirder....

In 42 career starts against the Rangers Felix is 12-21 (22.8% of his career losses) with a 4.01 ERA. Considering half of those Rangers teams were under .500 that's interesting. Nothing against Felix....he is great.
That's like the fact I spent the better part of the last 10 years thinking CC Sabathia was way overrated because of his performances entirely against the tigers.
Totally different. I don't think Felix is overrated whatsoever. A career ERA of 2.60 at Fenway (8 starts) and 1.37 ERA at new Yankee Stadium in 7 starts.

Yeah, i phrased that poorly. I just was relaying a situation of an otherwise great pitcher inexplicably struggling against a franchise.
I gotcha man.

Michael Young always struggled against the Red Sox. He was like a .250 career hitter (50 points below career average) at Fenway. So I'm sure they thought he sucked.

Ian Kinsler (as you know now) is incredibly frustrating on the road and in the second half. His splits are really bad. Here are some numbers....

At home in his career...
.299 avg with an OPS of .874

On the road....
.248 with an OPS of .714


Career first half.....
.285 with an OPS of .832

Second half.....
.257 with an OPS of .742

Re: MLB

Posted: Wed September 24, 2014 3:41 pm
by philpritchard
Jose Bautista has a 1.390 OPS at Target Field with 11 home runs in 14 games.

Re: MLB

Posted: Wed September 24, 2014 3:44 pm
by @SkitchP
The flip side of this, is us Tiger fans, believe Bruce Chen is one of the most amazing pitchers in baseball history.


which makes no sense, given that his numbers against the Tigers are awful.

Re: MLB

Posted: Wed September 24, 2014 3:50 pm
by Bammer
Wanna see something crazy? Look up Raphael Palmeiro's numbers playing as a visitor in Seattle. Guy was fucking Babe Ruth up here.

Re: MLB

Posted: Wed September 24, 2014 3:53 pm
by BigRedLedbetter
philpritchard wrote:Jose Bautista has a 1.390 OPS at Target Field with 11 home runs in 14 games.
Good lord and that is a tough park to hit it out of.

Re: MLB

Posted: Wed September 24, 2014 4:01 pm
by philpritchard
@SkitchP wrote:The flip side of this, is us Tiger fans, believe Bruce Chen is one of the most amazing pitchers in baseball history.


which makes no sense, given that his numbers against the Tigers are awful.
I just looked up Reed Johnson's stats against Boston because I thought they would be amazing. It turns out in 2005 he had a game against them where he had 2 home runs and 5 RBI, then a week later he came off the bench against the Sox in the 6th inning and somehow, in just 3 innings, managed to go 2 for 3 with another home run and 6 RBI. Other than those two games, his career numbers are below average against the Red Sox.

It's amazing how, nearly ten years later, I still think of Reed Johnson as a Red Sox-killer because of what he did in two games.

Re: MLB

Posted: Wed September 24, 2014 4:08 pm
by numbers
If I remember correctly, Frank Catalonotto had insane numbers against the Red Sox.

Re: MLB

Posted: Wed September 24, 2014 4:55 pm
by BigRedLedbetter
I'm very happy Derek Jeter is retiring. Nothing but respect for him despite my Yankee hatred but he tears us apart. The Yankees are 92-57 all-time against the Rangers with Jeter playing. He had a 33 game hitting streak from 1998-2001. His stats all time against us are as follows...


.327 AVG
.399 OBP
.911 OPS

Not to mention the Yankees knocked us out of the playoffs three out of four years from 96-99. Ugh.


The success Vlad Guerrero (who is one of my all time favorite players) has had against us in his career is well-documented. I wanna say a 37-38 game hitting against us which I believe is an all time record against one time. With a .395 avg, .461 OBP and an OPS of 1.122 against us I was thrilled when we signed him in 2010.

Re: MLB

Posted: Wed September 24, 2014 4:57 pm
by Norah
I'm so fucking sick of Derek Jeter.

Re: MLB

Posted: Wed September 24, 2014 4:59 pm
by @SkitchP
cutuphalfdead wrote:I'm so fucking sick of Derek Jeter.

So much this.

Re: MLB

Posted: Wed September 24, 2014 5:00 pm
by BigRedLedbetter
Nothing but respect for Jeter between the lines but I don't get the huge suck fest going on. Better players did not get this treatment.

Re: MLB

Posted: Wed September 24, 2014 5:01 pm
by Norah
You can't even talk shit about this treatment without saying "nothing but respect for Jeter" first.

Re: MLB

Posted: Wed September 24, 2014 5:06 pm
by @SkitchP
cutuphalfdead wrote:You can't even talk shit about this treatment without saying "nothing but respect for Jeter" first.

BRL just did it in BOTH of his last 2 posts.

Re: MLB

Posted: Wed September 24, 2014 5:07 pm
by Norah
@SkitchP wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:You can't even talk shit about this treatment without saying "nothing but respect for Jeter" first.

BRL just did it in BOTH of his last 2 posts.
Thanks, chud.

Re: MLB

Posted: Wed September 24, 2014 5:08 pm
by @SkitchP
cutuphalfdead wrote:
@SkitchP wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:You can't even talk shit about this treatment without saying "nothing but respect for Jeter" first.

BRL just did it in BOTH of his last 2 posts.
Thanks, chud.

I drove into a house.

Re: MLB

Posted: Wed September 24, 2014 5:11 pm
by philpritchard
@SkitchP wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:I'm so fucking sick of Derek Jeter.

So much this.
Here's a pretty accurate recap of the weekend series between the Jays and Yankees:

http://www.bluebirdbanter.com/2014/9/20 ... they-would

Re: MLB

Posted: Wed September 24, 2014 5:14 pm
by BigRedLedbetter
cutuphalfdead wrote:You can't even talk shit about this treatment without saying "nothing but respect for Jeter" first.
What's wrong with respecting the guy? Good God. He probably punts puppies.