Tj wrote:My man on the inside is reporting from his experience at a listening party.
1. If you like songs like Scare Of Fear you will like Scared of Fear
2. React Respond is a heavy foot pounder.
3. Waiting For Stevie is somewhat like a old style of Pearl Jam but not like anything from 91-21
4. Wreckage is Ed's impersonation of Tom Petty covering Wild Horses
He also reported that 10c members in Riot gear made them look into a gun like device with spiraling green and yellow lights for 12 seconds on the way out the door. As a side note only Ed was allowed to wear a hat . All other hats were collected and donated to Roger Water's charity.
A friend of mine also attended this event.
Unfortunately he passed out in a puddle of vomit somewhere around the 2nd verse of "Scared of Fear"
He said the evening was overall a bit of a blur...however does seem to recall there being some guitars, drums & bass on a few of the songs as well as a bit of singing too.
He couldn't quite pin point any other album that Dark Matter sounds like, but he did mention that if you're a fan of songs like Sweet Lew, Turning Mist & Obey the Law of the Heart...you're probably not going to like this album very much.
“The problem with the world is that the intelligent people are full of doubts, while the stupid ones are full of confidence.”
― Charles Bukowski
Despite the London crew's inability to provide any coherent analysis of the songs, I think one fair takeaway is that their general reaction has been fairly lukewarm. I don't even know if that means much since these guys don't seem like the brightest bunch of people but it is interesting that we're not getting the "fanboy" reaction that I thought we would.
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Release_Me wrote:it’s going to get rowdy when they play it live!"
As rowdy as a bunch of 45 to 60+ fans can get. Someone's gonna break a hip in the pit.
Formerly Frank the Bunny.
It's OOOOKay!! Sometimes you'll find yourself...having to put allll yoooour faith, in noooooo faa-a-aith!! Mine is mine and yours won't take its place, now make your getaway-HEY!
brisk wrote:Guess I don't know shit, I guess I meant to say I don't like when PJ make punk songs, just do more like Binaural and Riot Act, pls, thanks.
Nothing on Binaural or RA is punk.
I would never, ever call gods, breakerfall, save you, get right “punk”.
Not close.
Running is honestly the closest and best. MYM was an attempt failed miserably.
brisk wrote:Guess I don't know shit, I guess I meant to say I don't like when PJ make punk songs, just do more like Binaural and Riot Act, pls, thanks.
Nothing on Binaural or RA is punk.
I would never, ever call gods, breakerfall, save you, get right “punk”.
Not close.
Running is honestly the closest and best. MYM was an attempt failed miserably.
Green Disease is punk if we're saying something like Supersonic is
GD is 1) less punk than the aforementioned tunes and 2) a bad track.
Supersonic only qualifies based on BPM of intro and outro. Otherwise I would not consider it a punk song. More like a spritzy quick rocker. Nice bridge. Forgettable though.
But hey….all subjective anyway…
"For me, it's all about the time we're having just playing the songs. So if it's kind of a mindless good time, then....."
I think there's a tendency to call any fast PJ song under 2:30 punk. Punk is one of those elusive terms that even so-called punks can't even adequately define. Everyone sort of knows what it means. Didn't Kurt basically say punk is whatever you want it to be?
stip wrote:Mind Your Manners is basically a five star song. So good. So misunderstood. So unappreciated
I would argue Pearl Jam has only four five-star songs since Binaural so how can one better understand this 3-star song up to a five-star song? Suggestions welcome! Ha
brisk wrote:Guess I don't know shit, I guess I meant to say I don't like when PJ make punk songs, just do more like Binaural and Riot Act, pls, thanks.
Nothing on Binaural or RA is punk.
I would never, ever call gods, breakerfall, save you, get right “punk”.
Not close.
Running is honestly the closest and best. MYM was an attempt failed miserably.
You wot m8? Read my post again.
Alright. I misread. Thought you were saying they were punk songs.
Nonetheless, my point stands. They have made only a couple real attempts at a punk song.
Thats prob how it should stay. But, I do like running so far.
"For me, it's all about the time we're having just playing the songs. So if it's kind of a mindless good time, then....."
brisk wrote:Guess I don't know shit, I guess I meant to say I don't like when PJ make punk songs, just do more like Binaural and Riot Act, pls, thanks.
Nothing on Binaural or RA is punk.
I would never, ever call gods, breakerfall, save you, get right “punk”.
Not close.
Running is honestly the closest and best. MYM was an attempt failed miserably.
You wot m8? Read my post again.
Alright. I misread. Thought you were saying they were punk songs.
Nonetheless, my point stands. They have made only a couple real attempts at a punk song.
Thats prob how it should stay. But, I do like running so far.
It's very catchy for me actually, growing a bit, it's nice that it's 2 minutes and not EV sat in front of a B3 for 6 minutes.
stip wrote:Mind Your Manners is basically a five star song. So good. So misunderstood. So unappreciated
I would argue Pearl Jam has only four five-star songs since Binaural so how can one better understand this 3-star song up to a five-star song? Suggestions welcome! Ha
Because people have different tastes in music. What more is there to suggest?
In my opinion, what the feedback from the listening party shows is that the harder rocking songs have immediacy and leave an impression on first listen. The mid-tempo ones are probably growers that start slow & build and not likely to stay etched in the memory on first listen unless someone is really listening closely with the intention of noting every intricate detail.
Release_Me wrote:In my opinion, what the feedback from the listening party shows is that the harder rocking songs have immediacy and leave an impression on first listen. The mid-tempo ones are probably growers that start slow & build and not likely to stay etched in the memory on first listen unless someone is really listening closely with the intention of noting every intricate detail.
Might I remind everyone how In Hiding, prior to achieving its rightful GOAT status, was firstly met with a collective dismissal.
My main takeaway from the listening party impressions so far is that Brits held their liquor much better back when I was there in 2000 than they apparently do now.
I'm not a frequent heavy partier/drinker anymore, but, man alive, two shots and you lose all auditory and critical mental function??
I've got a neurological/physical disability, ffs, and, I'd at least be able to tell you what a song sounded like after a night of drinking...christ
We still make records to be listened to — not that everyone will listen to a record track one to twelve in a row or side A or Side B — but we still make 'em in case somebody does want to listen to it like that, that's how we make em…
Release_Me wrote:In my opinion, what the feedback from the listening party shows is that the harder rocking songs have immediacy and leave an impression on first listen. The mid-tempo ones are probably growers that start slow & build and not likely to stay etched in the memory on first listen unless someone is really listening closely with the intention of noting every intricate detail.
Might I remind everyone how In Hiding, prior to achieving its rightful GOAT status, was firstly met with a collective dismissal.
Release_Me wrote:In my opinion, what the feedback from the listening party shows is that the harder rocking songs have immediacy and leave an impression on first listen. The mid-tempo ones are probably growers that start slow & build and not likely to stay etched in the memory on first listen unless someone is really listening closely with the intention of noting every intricate detail.
Might I remind everyone how In Hiding, prior to achieving its rightful GOAT status, was firstly met with a collective dismissal.
