Red Mosquito

OmegaprimeVKM wrote:Is this the release that finally contains the elusive Navy Bean?

I have the only demo in possession of this super rarity and I'll never play it for anyone.

Confirmed: the album isn't coming any time soon.

New interview with Jeff.

http://www.nme.com/news/music/pearl-jam ... st-2307764

Were you working on this [solo] album at the same time as the new Pearl Jam record?

“The last time that the band got together and did some writing, I was just finishing up this so there was a week or two where I was doing both. But I’m not sure where we’re at, I’m not sure where the band’s at. Things got busy with tour dates and that sort of stuff.”

So there’s no update as to when fans might be able to expect the new Pearl Jam album?

“There’s not. I wish I had an update for you.”

You play UK and European shows with Pearl Jam in June and July, do you have any surprises planned?

“We start rehearsals in about 10 days, so thats probably when we’ll start throwing around ideas about maybe performing old songs we haven’t played in a while or covers. We’ll certainly play [new Pearl Jam song] ‘Can’t Deny Me’.”

"I’m not sure where the band’s at"

lol

You can't rush perfection.

I’m over it. What do we all care for anyway? Why do I care? The new album, whenever it eventually comes, is going to be the worst one yet. It’s going to suck so hard. Frankly, im annoyed and even a little pissed to hear Jeff say he doesn’t know “where the band is at” and he also wishes he had an update for fans. It’s all Ed’s fault. He’s done. His creative juices and inspiration are gone and forgotten. It actually makes me sad. Of course I want to hear new songs and get a new PJ album, but at the same time, this isn’t really PJ anymore. It’s different and infinitely shittier than I ever believed PJ could be. They (Ed) have run out of anything meaningful to say and have forgotten how deliver their message in interesting ways. So I feel stuck in a place where I’m pissed that they aren’t even close to releasing a new album, but I also have zero faith that any new music will be anything other than embarrassing. Ugh.

PHATJ wrote:I’m over it. What do we all care for anyway? Why do I care? The new album, whenever it eventually comes, is going to be the worst one yet. It’s going to suck so hard. Frankly, im annoyed and even a little pissed to hear Jeff say he doesn’t know “where the band is at” and he also wishes he had an update for fans. It’s all Ed’s fault. He’s done. His creative juices and inspiration are gone and forgotten. It actually makes me sad. Of course I want to hear new songs and get a new PJ album, but at the same time, this isn’t really PJ anymore. It’s different and infinitely shittier than I ever believed PJ could be. They (Ed) have run out of anything meaningful to say and have forgotten how deliver their message in interesting ways. So I feel stuck in a place where I’m pissed that they aren’t even close to releasing a new album, but I also have zero faith that any new music will be anything other than embarrassing. Ugh.

I blame Stone just as much as Ed.

yeah stone and ed are fucked.

there's too much good music being released by both new and well-seasoned bands to really put forth any care towards a lingering and marginally existent band, wondering when or if they'll put out more mediocre songs. if it happens, cool. if not, not sweat off my sack.

they'll obviously randomly tour here and there bc touring pays the bills, albums don't. and it's proven that they'll sell out shows left and right without the support of new songs... bc i guarantee no one is going to these shows to hear Can't Deny Me.

PHATJ wrote:I’m over it. What do we all care for anyway? Why do I care? The new album, whenever it eventually comes, is going to be the worst one yet. It’s going to suck so hard. Frankly, im annoyed and even a little pissed to hear Jeff say he doesn’t know “where the band is at” and he also wishes he had an update for fans. It’s all Ed’s fault. He’s done. His creative juices and inspiration are gone and forgotten. It actually makes me sad. Of course I want to hear new songs and get a new PJ album, but at the same time, this isn’t really PJ anymore. It’s different and infinitely shittier than I ever believed PJ could be. They (Ed) have run out of anything meaningful to say and have forgotten how deliver their message in interesting ways. So I feel stuck in a place where I’m pissed that they aren’t even close to releasing a new album, but I also have zero faith that any new music will be anything other than embarrassing. Ugh.

Monkey_Driven wrote:

PHATJ wrote:I’m over it. What do we all care for anyway? Why do I care? The new album, whenever it eventually comes, is going to be the worst one yet. It’s going to suck so hard. Frankly, im annoyed and even a little pissed to hear Jeff say he doesn’t know “where the band is at” and he also wishes he had an update for fans. It’s all Ed’s fault. He’s done. His creative juices and inspiration are gone and forgotten. It actually makes me sad. Of course I want to hear new songs and get a new PJ album, but at the same time, this isn’t really PJ anymore. It’s different and infinitely shittier than I ever believed PJ could be. They (Ed) have run out of anything meaningful to say and have forgotten how deliver their message in interesting ways. So I feel stuck in a place where I’m pissed that they aren’t even close to releasing a new album, but I also have zero faith that any new music will be anything other than embarrassing. Ugh.

I blame Stone just as much as Ed.

I don't blame Stone for checking out, creatively. Back in the 90s he was bang bang banging out badass riffs like nobody's business until Ed started backseat driving him, first by tinkering with his riffs to make them less radio friendly (Vitalogy), then by prioritizing full song compositions over riffs (No Code-Binaural). Stone completely changed his approach to songwriting between Vitalogy and Riot Act, moving away from riffs and toward full songs with lyrics. And just when he started really getting good at it, Ed turned his attention back toward easy, radio friendly riffs and schlock like Just Breathe, Infallible, and Future Days. Stone probably feels like he can't win.

I don't know if any of that is accurate but it felt truthy as I was typing it, so I'm going with it.

PHATJ wrote:I’m over it. What do we all care for anyway? Why do I care? The new album, whenever it eventually comes, is going to be the worst one yet. It’s going to suck so hard. Frankly, im annoyed and even a little pissed to hear Jeff say he doesn’t know “where the band is at” and he also wishes he had an update for fans. It’s all Ed’s fault. He’s done. His creative juices and inspiration are gone and forgotten. It actually makes me sad. Of course I want to hear new songs and get a new PJ album, but at the same time, this isn’t really PJ anymore. It’s different and infinitely shittier than I ever believed PJ could be. They (Ed) have run out of anything meaningful to say and have forgotten how deliver their message in interesting ways. So I feel stuck in a place where I’m pissed that they aren’t even close to releasing a new album, but I also have zero faith that any new music will be anything other than embarrassing. Ugh.

You're really into this meltdown thing lately.

oh good he confirmed they'll play can't deny me

Monkey_Driven wrote:

PHATJ wrote:I’m over it. What do we all care for anyway? Why do I care? The new album, whenever it eventually comes, is going to be the worst one yet. It’s going to suck so hard. Frankly, im annoyed and even a little pissed to hear Jeff say he doesn’t know “where the band is at” and he also wishes he had an update for fans. It’s all Ed’s fault. He’s done. His creative juices and inspiration are gone and forgotten. It actually makes me sad. Of course I want to hear new songs and get a new PJ album, but at the same time, this isn’t really PJ anymore. It’s different and infinitely shittier than I ever believed PJ could be. They (Ed) have run out of anything meaningful to say and have forgotten how deliver their message in interesting ways. So I feel stuck in a place where I’m pissed that they aren’t even close to releasing a new album, but I also have zero faith that any new music will be anything other than embarrassing. Ugh.

I blame Stone just as much as Ed.

I still blame Ed more. Ed neutered Stone when he took control of the band. And it worked through the middle records because Ed was still writing great material and the band was still creative and full of ideas. And Stone still had enough pride in himself and the band to write great songs too. It seems now that Ed’s well has run dry. He’s written every interesting musical idea he’s ever had. And his young angst and turmoil that fueled his creativity is 20 years gone. He was running on fumes, but now even that is gone. I’m happy that Ed has found joy in his family. That’s awesome for him as a man. But as a musician it certainly doesn’t supply the same kinds of inspiration that he thrived off of for 15 years. And Stone just slowly shrunk into nothing. His motivation obviously is long gone and his influence in the band just keeps dwindling. So the PJ we get these days has a singer/songwriter that is out of interesting musical ideas and doesn’t have much left to say, a former leader and riff writing god that got all his mojo sucked out, a bass player that always feels out of the loop, a lead guitarist that isn’t suited to be the primary song writer, and a drummer that isn’t encouraged (or maybe even allowed) to use his creativity to push the band in interesting directions. Oh yeah, there’s a keyboard player and super shitty producer too. All of these things can be directly traced to Ed and his vision/leadership. PJ was nothing without Ed and now they have become nothing because of Ed.

chewm wrote:

PHATJ wrote:I’m over it. What do we all care for anyway? Why do I care? The new album, whenever it eventually comes, is going to be the worst one yet. It’s going to suck so hard. Frankly, im annoyed and even a little pissed to hear Jeff say he doesn’t know “where the band is at” and he also wishes he had an update for fans. It’s all Ed’s fault. He’s done. His creative juices and inspiration are gone and forgotten. It actually makes me sad. Of course I want to hear new songs and get a new PJ album, but at the same time, this isn’t really PJ anymore. It’s different and infinitely shittier than I ever believed PJ could be. They (Ed) have run out of anything meaningful to say and have forgotten how deliver their message in interesting ways. So I feel stuck in a place where I’m pissed that they aren’t even close to releasing a new album, but I also have zero faith that any new music will be anything other than embarrassing. Ugh.

You're really into this meltdown thing lately.

I’m seeing the world with clarity. Just like Kanye.

Strat wrote:"I’m not sure where the band’s at"

Well, we know where they aren't.

hilarious how the 10C meanwhile jumps out there pumping this "single" like it's the lead to a new album

gotta keep the cash machine going and keep the FAITHFULLLLLLLLL on the hook

PHATJ wrote:I’m over it. What do we all care for anyway? Why do I care? The new album, whenever it eventually comes, is going to be the worst one yet. It’s going to suck so hard. Frankly, im annoyed and even a little pissed to hear Jeff say he doesn’t know “where the band is at” and he also wishes he had an update for fans. It’s all Ed’s fault. He’s done. His creative juices and inspiration are gone and forgotten. It actually makes me sad. Of course I want to hear new songs and get a new PJ album, but at the same time, this isn’t really PJ anymore. It’s different and infinitely shittier than I ever believed PJ could be. They (Ed) have run out of anything meaningful to say and have forgotten how deliver their message in interesting ways. So I feel stuck in a place where I’m pissed that they aren’t even close to releasing a new album, but I also have zero faith that any new music will be anything other than embarrassing. Ugh.

*Liked*

96583UP wrote:hilarious how the 10C meanwhile jumps out there pumping this "single" like it's the lead to a new album

gotta keep the cash machine going and keep the FAITHFULLLLLLLLL on the hook

fucking 10C.