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Re: Once Upon a Time in... Hollywood

Posted: Sun January 12, 2020 5:54 pm
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

Re: Once Upon a Time in... Hollywood

Posted: Sun January 12, 2020 5:55 pm
by VinylGuy
durdencommatyler wrote:All five Disney era Star Wars films are better than this.
Sorry i just read this one...and...wtf

Re: Once Upon a Time in... Hollywood

Posted: Sun January 12, 2020 5:55 pm
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

Re: Once Upon a Time in... Hollywood

Posted: Sun January 12, 2020 5:56 pm
by VinylGuy
tragabigzanda wrote:I think all the Hollywood/denouement stuff is right on the money, but there's also an anti-PC sentiment to the ending that I loved just as much. I'm not sure that watching Pitt bash the girl's face in would have been as impactful even five years ago.
Oh i loved how violent it was. Thats QT classic right there...also with Tex. He really goes wild with Tex.

Re: Once Upon a Time in... Hollywood

Posted: Sun January 12, 2020 6:28 pm
by LoathedVermin72
VinylGuy wrote:
Anders wrote:I see the movie as a love letter to classic Hollywood, and that would be ruined if it ended with the death of one of its stars. By saving her, and slaughtering the killers, he keeps a red thread throughout the movie.
Thats another different view from what LV said, and its a possible one sure. It gets more in line with the ¨another alternative universe¨stuff he already did.
Not at all a different view from what I said.

Re: Once Upon a Time in... Hollywood

Posted: Sun January 12, 2020 6:29 pm
by LoathedVermin72
tragabigzanda wrote:I think all the Hollywood/denouement stuff is right on the money, but there's also an anti-PC sentiment to the ending that I loved just as much. I'm not sure that watching Pitt bash the girl's face in would have been as impactful even five years ago.
Ehhh don’t think I can follow you down this road

Re: Once Upon a Time in... Hollywood

Posted: Sun January 12, 2020 6:36 pm
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

Re: Once Upon a Time in... Hollywood

Posted: Sun January 12, 2020 7:21 pm
by Jorge
tragabigzanda wrote:I think all the Hollywood/denouement stuff is right on the money, but there's also an anti-PC sentiment to the ending that I loved just as much. I'm not sure that watching Pitt bash the girl's face in would have been as impactful even five years ago.
Uhhhhh

Re: Once Upon a Time in... Hollywood

Posted: Sun January 12, 2020 7:40 pm
by VinylGuy
We need Joe right now. He will tell us the truth

Re: Once Upon a Time in... Hollywood

Posted: Sun January 12, 2020 7:46 pm
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

Re: Once Upon a Time in... Hollywood

Posted: Sun January 12, 2020 8:06 pm
by LoathedVermin72
Yikes

Re: Once Upon a Time in... Hollywood

Posted: Sun January 12, 2020 11:47 pm
by VinylGuy
tragabigzanda wrote:
theplatypus wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:I think all the Hollywood/denouement stuff is right on the money, but there's also an anti-PC sentiment to the ending that I loved just as much. I'm not sure that watching Pitt bash the girl's face in would have been as impactful even five years ago.
Uhhhhh
i think it's weird that no one else got that from this movie; i felt that was so obvious, like with every beatdown delivered by Pitt, QT was flipping the bird to PC police, #MeToo, etc. Felt dangerous in a way that none of his films since Pulp Fiction had felt to me.
I agree. Specially with Di Caprio´s hate towards the hippies. And of course, Pitt killing his wife.

Re: Once Upon a Time in... Hollywood

Posted: Mon January 13, 2020 12:00 am
by BurtReynolds
The ending didn't bother me, but if it was just Pitt and DiCaprio wondering through Hollywood I would have been fine with it, too. He's only rewrote history once before, right? So I don't see why I would be tired of it.

Re: Once Upon a Time in... Hollywood

Posted: Mon January 13, 2020 12:02 am
by BurtReynolds
tragabigzanda wrote:
theplatypus wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:I think all the Hollywood/denouement stuff is right on the money, but there's also an anti-PC sentiment to the ending that I loved just as much. I'm not sure that watching Pitt bash the girl's face in would have been as impactful even five years ago.
Uhhhhh
i think it's weird that no one else got that from this movie; i felt that was so obvious, like with every beatdown delivered by Pitt, QT was flipping the bird to PC police, #MeToo, etc. Felt dangerous in a way that none of his films since Pulp Fiction had felt to me.
You're not alone. I think it was definitely was an attack on modern progressive outrage peddlers trying to attack him.

Re: Once Upon a Time in... Hollywood

Posted: Mon January 13, 2020 12:04 am
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

Re: Once Upon a Time in... Hollywood

Posted: Mon January 13, 2020 12:20 am
by BurtReynolds
It's a sustained defense of classic depictions of masculinity and femininity throughout. The hippies are made up of bitchy women and their soyboy cuck allies. And yeah it's glorious when they get utterly annihilated.

Re: Once Upon a Time in... Hollywood

Posted: Mon January 13, 2020 12:27 am
by LoathedVermin72
BurtReynolds wrote:It's a sustained defense of classic depictions of masculinity and femininity throughout. The hippies are made up of bitchy women and their soyboy cuck allies. And yeah it's glorious when they get utterly annihilated.
Genuinely can’t tell if this is a joke post or not

Re: Once Upon a Time in... Hollywood

Posted: Mon January 13, 2020 12:35 am
by BurtReynolds
I don't want to ruin any interpretations of my post you may have.

Re: Once Upon a Time in... Hollywood

Posted: Mon January 13, 2020 6:30 pm
by Orpheus
What is actually worth fighting against in the PC/MeToo movements? I see this sentiment all the time, and it's really dumb. "Yeah man, fuck these women for...talking about how they want justice for being assaulted. Not in MY country!" Especially in a movie about essentially retconning the murder of Sharon fucking Tate???

I honestly struggle to figure out what the fuck some of yall are talking about.

Re: Once Upon a Time in... Hollywood

Posted: Mon January 13, 2020 6:41 pm
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.