A lot of reporting I've seen (including some tweets that have now been deleted; all of which I can't totally vet, so take with a grain of salt) says Toney did get clearance from the line judge. Reid also spoke to this, too.E.H. Ruddock wrote:Everything I'm hearing today from former WRs on the talk outlets is it is up to the player to look at/ask the ref if he is "good" where he is lined up. The ref usually gives at thumbs up or "move back" wave if he is not. Seems to me more like Patrick is frustrated at his receivers, they once again had a horrible game. He just took it out on the refs at the end, instead of teammates. Which in my book makes him a good teammate. But yeah, he was pretty offsides.
The fact that he was offsides is only part of the story/problem here. Yes, he should be onsides. Get right and we don't have a problem. But when this happens a dozen times a game and never gets called, when the player reportedly did check with the judge, when on the same play there is blatant illegal contact from two defenders against Toney that goes completely uncalled (and should have at the very least resulted in off-setting penalties) and when the play before the SAME ref called the same foul AGAINST the Chiefs, that's when it's a fucking issue. There's a ton more context to this than just "Toney was offsides and Sore Loser Mahomes lost his shit!" -- to be clear, Ruddo, I know you're not saying that. I agree with your post above.
Pat is obviously mad at his WRs. And Ruddo is absolutely right that he's a good teammate and leader for not throwing them under the bus. That's absolutely true.
