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Re: General Pearl Jam Praising

Posted: Sat April 26, 2014 6:40 am
by hlniv
Tuolumne wrote:Binaural is an album of massive potential that they just didn't execute well and if they just took a little more time and had better luck production wise could have been a career high water mark. Instead, it's the album I rank the lowest for them.
:facepalm:

Re: General Pearl Jam Praising

Posted: Sat April 26, 2014 9:01 am
by Birds in Hell
Tuolumne wrote:Binaural is an album of massive potential that they just didn't execute well
I actually agree with this; there's so much good stuff there but I don't think it coheres into a very satisfying final product.
Tuolumne wrote:Instead, it's the album I rank the lowest for them.
Oh goodness, no.

Despite its faults, I think it's significantly better than anything they've done since.

Re: General Pearl Jam Praising

Posted: Sat April 26, 2014 2:00 pm
by bada
Agreed.

Re: General Pearl Jam Praising

Posted: Sat April 26, 2014 9:55 pm
by Got Some
Birds in Hell wrote:
Tuolumne wrote:Binaural is an album of massive potential that they just didn't execute well
I actually agree with this; there's so much good stuff there but I don't think it coheres into a very satisfying final product.
Tuolumne wrote:Instead, it's the album I rank the lowest for them.
Oh goodness, no.

Despite its faults, I think it's significantly better than anything they've done since.
Agreed with first Part 100% binaural could of been amazing !!! One of pjs best albums.


But I have liked albums since better than Binaural.

Re: General Pearl Jam Praising

Posted: Sun April 27, 2014 3:14 am
by hlniv
The only negative with binaural was song selection. They had more good shit than they knew what to do with. But to find faults in its execution or production is just short sighted.

Re: General Pearl Jam Praising

Posted: Sun April 27, 2014 12:58 pm
by stip
Binaural is a muddy, neutered version of a pearl jam record that systematically undercuts most of my favorite things about this band.

Insignificance and NAIS are maybe the two exceptions to this. Songs that I both love and I can't imagine sounding better if recorded at another time

Oh, and rival

Re: General Pearl Jam Praising

Posted: Sun April 27, 2014 12:59 pm
by stip
One of Ed's best records lyrically, too. It's too bad he wrote so little of it

Re: General Pearl Jam Praising

Posted: Sun April 27, 2014 2:51 pm
by McParadigm
My goodness, that guy had a great tone to his upper register in that era. All that stuff he reaches for Pete Townshends register on (like Sad and Light Years) is just the best he ever sounded, to me.

Re: General Pearl Jam Praising

Posted: Mon April 28, 2014 11:35 am
by hlniv
stip wrote:Binaural is a muddy, neutered version of a pearl jam record that systematically undercuts most of my favorite things about this band.

Insignificance and NAIS are maybe the two exceptions to this. Songs that I both love and I can't imagine sounding better if recorded at another time

Oh, and rival
Oh, and Grievance. Oh, and PartIng Ways. Oh, and sleight of hand. Oh, and Of The Girl. And evacuation, and Breakerfall.

Get a decent pair of headphones, Hubble image hater.

Re: General Pearl Jam Praising

Posted: Mon April 28, 2014 12:35 pm
by dimejinky99
I just wish Grievance sounded huge, meaty and powerful.
sounds really neutered as it is on the record, and i think that shows up most of the album as an experiment that didn't work/wasn't followed through to the end.

Re: General Pearl Jam Praising

Posted: Mon April 28, 2014 6:53 pm
by Leatherhead
hlniv wrote:The only negative with binaural was song selection. They had more good shit than they knew what to do with.

Re: General Pearl Jam Praising

Posted: Mon April 28, 2014 6:57 pm
by VinylGuy
Binaural is perfect. Its now a flawed experiment at all...

Re: General Pearl Jam Praising

Posted: Mon April 28, 2014 7:22 pm
by Alex
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Re: General Pearl Jam Praising

Posted: Mon April 28, 2014 9:28 pm
by Norah
sigh

http://gethurt.com/2014/04/25/the-great ... -all-time/
1. LONGEVITY.
The band formed in 1990, and released it’s debut album the very next year in 1991. Here we are 24 years later and they’re still trucking along on massive sold out tours in support of their 10th studio album.

2. CREATIVE VITALITY.
When a band is as successful as Pearl Jam was early on, it’s pretty easy to coast for the majority of your career, relying on those hits to pay the bills . Why bother making new albums when everyone really just wants to hear those 3 great songs you recorded 20 years ago? Well, not Pearl Jam. When they make a new album (which they do on an average of every 2.3 years), they tour in support of that album and they play the majority of the songs from that new album. And Pearl Jam fans LOVE that, because those new songs are consistently awesome. And let’s face it, we’ll all live if we don’t get to hear “Jeremy” today.

3. LIVE PERFORMANCE.
As dedicated fans know, this band plays a different set list at each and every show. And with 10 studio albums, a deep collection of B-sides, and an arsenal of cover songs at their disposal, there is more than enough to choose from. Not only is the set list different each night, but when Pearl Jam takes the stage they’re in it for the long haul. It’s rare to see them play for anything less than 2 and a half hours. Many shows push 3 hours, and some have gone longer. Their longest show to date was nearly 3 and a half hours. You can leave as early as you want, but you can’t ever say you didn’t get your money’s worth.

4. EXPERIMENTATION / RISK TAKING.
Older bands like AC/DC and the newly reunited original lineup of Black Sabbath rely completely on nostalgia in the rare case that they do make a new album. They basically churn out watered down versions of the same album over and over again in fear of losing the winning formula. Pearl Jam has consistently evolved over the years, to the point of alienating large portions of their fan base. Some weirdness was under way on the third album; ‘Vitalogy’, but when they released ‘No Code’ in 1996 all bets were off. This was Pearl Jam not giving even one single solitary fuck. Let’s not forget about the band’s anti trust lawsuit against Ticketmaster, which also happened around the release of ‘No Code’. Pearl Jam have balls.

5. GREAT MUSIC.
Let’s not leave out the most obvious one. As subjective as any art can be, it would be hard for even the most casual music-listener to deny Pearl Jams strength in songwriting. The secret weapon is the fact that they have 5 guys who are all capable songwriters contributing to the process. Not a single one of these 10 studio albums have gone by without at least a couple of show-stopping, classic songs. Any band in the world would be lucky to have any one of them, and Pearl Jam gives birth to these timeless musical gems on the regular.

One could go on and on about the bands charity, activism, control over their career, etc. I love a good music debate, so if you think another band truly qualifies of Greatest American Rock Band Of All Time, bring forth ye argument.

Re: General Pearl Jam Praising

Posted: Mon April 28, 2014 10:27 pm
by Lament
cutuphalfdead wrote:sigh

http://gethurt.com/2014/04/25/the-great ... -all-time/
4. EXPERIMENTATION / RISK TAKING.
Older bands like AC/DC and the newly reunited original lineup of Black Sabbath rely completely on nostalgia in the rare case that they do make a new album. They basically churn out watered down versions of the same album over and over again in fear of losing the winning formula. Pearl Jam has consistently evolved over the years, to the point of alienating large portions of their fan base. Some weirdness was under way on the third album; ‘Vitalogy’, but when they released ‘No Code’ in 1996 all bets were off. This was Pearl Jam not giving even one single solitary fuck. Let’s not forget about the band’s anti trust lawsuit against Ticketmaster, which also happened around the release of ‘No Code’. Pearl Jam have balls.
:facepalm:

Re: General Pearl Jam Praising

Posted: Mon April 28, 2014 10:29 pm
by Lament
I wonder what it's like to genuinely believe in your heart that Pearl Jam is the GREATEST American rock band of all-time...



Also, if his point is that they're the greatest American band, why is he comparing them to AC/DC and Black Sabbath?

Re: General Pearl Jam Praising

Posted: Mon April 28, 2014 10:31 pm
by Jorge
The amount of people who believe AC/DC are American is pretty staggering.

Re: General Pearl Jam Praising

Posted: Mon April 28, 2014 10:46 pm
by mastaflatch
theplatypus wrote:The amount of people who believe AC/DC are American is pretty staggering.
you just can't sing with that high screeching/old hag voice unless you lived a large part of your life upside down.

Re: General Pearl Jam Praising

Posted: Mon April 28, 2014 11:08 pm
by Birds in Hell
mastaflatch wrote:
theplatypus wrote:The amount of people who believe AC/DC are American is pretty staggering.
you just can't sing with that high screeching/old hag voice unless you lived a large part of your life upside down.
Brian Johnson isn't Australian...

Re: General Pearl Jam Praising

Posted: Mon April 28, 2014 11:32 pm
by Kevin Davis
theplatypus wrote:The amount of people who believe AC/DC are American is pretty staggering.
Is it really? If I didn't know better I would immediately assume they were a bunch of PBR-swilling hicks from...well, somewhere in Illinois.