Re: Matt Cameron quits Pearl Jam
Posted: Tue July 08, 2025 2:50 am
Imagine Pearl Jam hanging it up when AC/DC is still out there.
I cranked Dark Matter today but tomorrow itll be Live on Two Legs. Also listened to Los Angeles 00 and tomorrow im thinking Seattle 00, a true classic.Kevin Davis wrote:Listening to a little Live on Two Legs right now, thinking how it just feels like yesterday that Matt joined the band and feeling somewhat incredulous at the idea that it has been 27 years since the autumn of sophomore year, when I listened obsessively to this album on the bus on the way home from school. There’s really no telling what PJ would have become had a different drummer stepped in for that ‘98 tour. Very grateful it was Matt, that they went on to have the career they did, and that I got the chance to see that iteration of the band as many times as I did.
Even though I am musically partial to Jack, to me “Pearl Jam” as a group of five dudes will probably always be Ed, Jeff, Stone, Mike, and Matt. In a lot of ways their drummer drama in the ‘90’s was less a string of replacements and more a series of long-form auditions for the one that would finally work.
epilogue wrote:Kevin Davis wrote:Listening to a little Live on Two Legs right now, thinking how it just feels like yesterday that Matt joined the band and feeling somewhat incredulous at the idea that it has been 27 years since the autumn of sophomore year, when I listened obsessively to this album on the bus on the way home from school. There’s really no telling what PJ would have become had a different drummer stepped in for that ‘98 tour. Very grateful it was Matt, that they went on to have the career they did, and that I got the chance to see that iteration of the band as many times as I did.
Even though I am musically partial to Jack, to me “Pearl Jam” as a group of five dudes will probably always be Ed, Jeff, Stone, Mike, and Matt. In a lot of ways their drummer drama in the ‘90’s was less a string of replacements and more a series of long-form auditions for the one that would finally work.
Not really into responding to posts that start with “terrible take” but I do want to clarify I was talking about songs that MC wrote.E.H. Ruddock wrote:Terrible take. Why retire his songs? They’re greatMatters wrote:Not that it means anything but isn’t someone in the band (ed?) on record saying that Matt Cameron will be the last drummer for Pearl Jam?
I love Cameron’s PJ songs but they should retire those now. Except the Fixer. Because who cares what they do with that?
Hey, we fucking grew up on Pearl Jam losing drummers.Matters wrote:Proud of gen X today and their ability to process difficult information and quickly move on humor.
Yeah, this seems like the smart choice to keep the peace and not drive Jeff out nextinjuddstree wrote:90% chance it will be Richard Stuverud, IMO.
i assumed it was the physical toll rather than a creative one. That dam would have broken long ago and seems even more improbable (to me) after an album that was much more of a matt showcase than anything prior with the band.digster wrote:I was sure this was how it would go as well, which is the thing that surprises me about the announcement. I kind of figured they viewed PJ as the business they'd wind down together as they started wanting to retire, with fewer live gigs over time. I mean, the Dark Matter push last year was a fair amount of shows, but I could easily see a situation where they played 15-date tours once every few years or something. Matt leaving outright does make me wonder if it was at all a creative decision, even one that clearly seems amicable.Birds in Hell wrote:Well, there you go.
Unsurprising given everything that's already been said about the physical impact of being a touring rock drummer in your 60s, but definitely the end of an era and not one I was expecting. I thought it more likely the band would just slowly wind down from regular touring.
Very interested to see what happens now.
Unless what he wants is more of an opportunity to write songs (lyrics, music, everything), as opposed to just have his drumming spotlighted, and have the odd riff/demo occasionally get Ed-ified into a full band song. We know he writes way more music than the band historically has used, and while PJ has never stopped him from making that stuff on the side, I can definitely understand how PJ would feel like a great drumming gig to him rather than a fully satisfying creative outlet.stip wrote: i assumed it was the physical toll rather than a creative one. That dam would have broken long ago and seems even more improbable (to me) after an album that was much more of a matt showcase than anything prior with the band
Nah, he's too cool to be bitter about that. He's an elder statesman. He joined an established band with 5 albums and a front man calling the shots. If getting writing credits was his red line, he would have crossed that long ago.wease wrote:Here’s why he quit:
Johnny Guitar
Cropduster
Unemployable
You Are
Take the Long Way
Get it Back
Evacuation
The Fixer
In the Moonlight
Get Right
Ten tunes. Ten tunes in 27 years over 7 albums. He finally said fuck this shit.