Red Mosquito

strat wrote:What song would you most like to hear from this setlist?

Chris_H_2 wrote:It looks like they just took a random setlist from a show this tour, folded it in half, and passed it off as a list of songs from which to choose.

evenslow wrote:

McParadigm wrote:

The rest just speak to the blend of musicianship and x-factor (see: Ed) that other bands just don't have.

I don't think it's a "Pearl Jam are rawk gods" thing at all. It's down to a type of songwriting. There are a lot of great songs out there (see: Zeppelin, My Generation, some Rolling Stones stuff) that are built more on the creation of a sound and the designing of events within that sound than in the traditional, "sit at a piano or edge of your bed" type songwriting. Lots of people cover Dylan or Neil and do a really good job of it, because they have these "edge of the bed" traditional songwriting methodologies. But not very many people cover Zeppelin, and far fewer cover them or the Stones well. Their songs are built too much on the tones, and the attitude, and the strut and all these ethereal qualities that are unique to them. The only ones that ever succeed at covering them are the ones that break the songs apart and find a whole new sonic canvas for them to exist within.

Also, as with those bands, Pearl Jam has some songs that are more closely tied to their personal core sound than others, and those are going to be the ones that are hardest to find a unique voice on. Which brings us back to: bad choice of song to cover.

I think you just said what I did but in classic TLDR McParadigm form.

Also, there's only two things I do on the "edge of the bed": make love and drink beer. Looks like we're almost out of beer.

stip wrote:

evenslow wrote:

McParadigm wrote:

The rest just speak to the blend of musicianship and x-factor (see: Ed) that other bands just don't have.

I don't think it's a "Pearl Jam are rawk gods" thing at all. It's down to a type of songwriting. There are a lot of great songs out there (see: Zeppelin, My Generation, some Rolling Stones stuff) that are built more on the creation of a sound and the designing of events within that sound than in the traditional, "sit at a piano or edge of your bed" type songwriting. Lots of people cover Dylan or Neil and do a really good job of it, because they have these "edge of the bed" traditional songwriting methodologies. But not very many people cover Zeppelin, and far fewer cover them or the Stones well. Their songs are built too much on the tones, and the attitude, and the strut and all these ethereal qualities that are unique to them. The only ones that ever succeed at covering them are the ones that break the songs apart and find a whole new sonic canvas for them to exist within.

Also, as with those bands, Pearl Jam has some songs that are more closely tied to their personal core sound than others, and those are going to be the ones that are hardest to find a unique voice on. Which brings us back to: bad choice of song to cover.

I think you just said what I did but in classic TLDR McParadigm form.

Also, there's only two things I do on the "edge of the bed": make love and drink beer. Looks like we're almost out of beer.

I'll be right over

stip wrote:I'd want to hear porch so it can be juxtaposed with the SNL one from 20 years ago

Strat wrote:

stip wrote:I'd want to hear porch so it can be juxtaposed with the SNL one from 20 years ago

and so RM can tear it apart for the next 30 pages!

evenslow wrote:

stip wrote:

evenslow wrote:

McParadigm wrote:

The rest just speak to the blend of musicianship and x-factor (see: Ed) that other bands just don't have.

I don't think it's a "Pearl Jam are rawk gods" thing at all. It's down to a type of songwriting. There are a lot of great songs out there (see: Zeppelin, My Generation, some Rolling Stones stuff) that are built more on the creation of a sound and the designing of events within that sound than in the traditional, "sit at a piano or edge of your bed" type songwriting. Lots of people cover Dylan or Neil and do a really good job of it, because they have these "edge of the bed" traditional songwriting methodologies. But not very many people cover Zeppelin, and far fewer cover them or the Stones well. Their songs are built too much on the tones, and the attitude, and the strut and all these ethereal qualities that are unique to them. The only ones that ever succeed at covering them are the ones that break the songs apart and find a whole new sonic canvas for them to exist within.

Also, as with those bands, Pearl Jam has some songs that are more closely tied to their personal core sound than others, and those are going to be the ones that are hardest to find a unique voice on. Which brings us back to: bad choice of song to cover.

I think you just said what I did but in classic TLDR McParadigm form.

Also, there's only two things I do on the "edge of the bed": make love and drink beer. Looks like we're almost out of beer.

I'll be right over

iceagecoming wrote:His vocal didn't annoy me as much as thread led me to believe it would, but what pissed me off was the acoustic guitar miming. He was just playing random chords over the verse section.