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southp wrote:

super nintendo chalmers wrote:Very close to pulling the trigger on a new table.

What are you looking at getting?

Jack White - Official AMBASSADOR of RECORD STORE DAY 2013

I am getting an ever expanding list of wants in the vinyl category and wondering right now whether my wife would physically attack me if I bought the Above reissue on CD/DVD on April 2 followed by the LP on record store day. I am also going to grab the Elephant reissue that day as well probably. Add to that a new hunger for the Hendrix catalogue on vinyl after just releasing the latest version of his final recordings (somewhere in heaven, he's one-upping 2PAC). Basically, the sky appears to be the limit lately.

super nintendo chalmers wrote:

southp wrote:

super nintendo chalmers wrote:Very close to pulling the trigger on a new table.

What are you looking at getting?

I'm not a big fan of technics as I've probably mentioned here before but I'll say this... it would probably be the last TT you would ever need to buy.
There is an aspect of a technics that takes the romance out of the analog experience. That being said, it's rugged, solidly built and very highly regarded. I'm also a bit of a tinker-er, and there is a limited number of things you can do with a deck like that (or so I thought). I don't know about the 1210 per se but many claim the tonearm is the weakness of technics 1200. I've seen guys swap them out for the Rega RB300 arms.

I've been splitting my listening time between my main Rega P3/McIntosh/Dynaco setup and my garbage-find Lenco L75 (project-in-the-works)/Marantz/Pioneer setup. I have the Lenco hooked up in the basement and it really kicks even though I haven't done a thing to it since I hauled it out of the trash. That is until this week...I finally bit the bullet and bought a new tonearm:

Jelco 750DB

http://www.audiosensibility.com/product ... cables.htm


And just to come full circle on this, in doing my research I've seen a lot of people with technics decks that add the Jelco arms. So I stand corrected.
Some reading:
http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/showth ... p?t=319335
http://www.audioasylum.com/audio/vinyl/ ... 84618.html

Technics SL12010mk2 with Jelco 750D Tonearm

picked up the reissue of pink moon and the unwound 'live leaves'. pretty excited to listen to both.

Oooooo won this eBay auction tonight, mofos! I may have overpaid a little, but I've been looking for this for a while:


Songs: Ohia - Impala

The new MONO "Are You Experienced?" LP's are total garbage. AVOID!

southp wrote:

super nintendo chalmers wrote:

southp wrote:

super nintendo chalmers wrote:Very close to pulling the trigger on a new table.

What are you looking at getting?

I'm not a big fan of technics as I've probably mentioned here before but I'll say this... it would probably be the last TT you would ever need to buy.
There is an aspect of a technics that takes the romance out of the analog experience. That being said, it's rugged, solidly built and very highly regarded. I'm also a bit of a tinker-er, and there is a limited number of things you can do with a deck like that (or so I thought). I don't know about the 1210 per se but many claim the tonearm is the weakness of technics 1200. I've seen guys swap them out for the Rega RB300 arms.

I've been splitting my listening time between my main Rega P3/McIntosh/Dynaco setup and my garbage-find Lenco L75 (project-in-the-works)/Marantz/Pioneer setup. I have the Lenco hooked up in the basement and it really kicks even though I haven't done a thing to it since I hauled it out of the trash. That is until this week...I finally bit the bullet and bought a new tonearm:

Jelco 750DB

http://www.audiosensibility.com/product ... cables.htm


And just to come full circle on this, in doing my research I've seen a lot of people with technics decks that add the Jelco arms. So I stand corrected.
Some reading:
http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/showth ... p?t=319335
http://www.audioasylum.com/audio/vinyl/ ... 84618.html

Technics SL12010mk2 with Jelco 750D Tonearm

Yeah, its the table I've always wanted. My very first table was a belt driven Technics I got for my 16th birthday. But the 1200 was always one of my favorites. I'm not much of a tinkerer, but there are enough tweaks available to the table if I ever get the itch. Those Jelco's look great, thanks.

I called it akin to a day at the spa explaining why it was so great to my wife - I went to Brooklyn and Manhattan in search of used records, and walked away with 10 new records for a grand total of $36. I have heard about half of them, some good, some bad. I am particularly happy I found REM's Fables of the Reconstruction for $6, a 12" single for "Life and How to Live It" for $3, some 1982 live collection from the Who called Who's Last (double LP) for $6, and a couple of New Orleans jazz records (both of these were awesome). The Mick Jagger single I bought for a dollar was awful. And after purchase, realized that the moderately scratched Van Halen's Fair Warning was actually their self-titled first album (this is not the first time, I once bought the Rolling Stone's Some Girls and years later when I got around to listening to it realized it was disc one of one of their greatest hits albums).

I haven't listened yet to Bob Marley's Burnin' ($3), some Bob Marley album that's probably a bootleg of some sort since I had never seen anything remotely like it before ($5), or the Micheal Powers Band EP ($3).

This basically took something like 5 hours in 2 record stores (the Brooklyn annex of Academy Records, and the Academy Records on 12th Street between 1st Avenue and Avenue A).

Wendy Carlos's Twin wrote:The new MONO "Are You Experienced?" LP's are total garbage. AVOID!

Explain.
What's wrong?

I got my girlfriend an engagement ring, she took me to the record store! Got the new Eels record, plus a nice clean copy of "The Wall," a marked-used but never-opened copy of "Undertow" by Tool, and for kicks a cheap copy of MJ's "Bad"--there are just some records everyone should own! She picked out a Nat King Cole hits collection so that we can "practice dancing."

Simple Torture wrote:I got my girlfriend an engagement ring, she took me to the record store! Got the new Eels record, plus a nice clean copy of "The Wall," a marked-used but never-opened copy of "Undertow" by Tool, and for kicks a cheap copy of MJ's "Bad"--there are just some records everyone should own! She picked out a Nat King Cole hits collection so that we can "practice dancing."

I have Thriller, which I bought used on the cheap a few years ago. This is a fantastic album.

Simple Torture wrote:I got my girlfriend an engagement ring, she took me to the record store! Got the new Eels record, plus a nice clean copy of "The Wall," a marked-used but never-opened copy of "Undertow" by Tool, and for kicks a cheap copy of MJ's "Bad"--there are just some records everyone should own! She picked out a Nat King Cole hits collection so that we can "practice dancing."

Not a bad haul, but I doubt it was worth the price of admission!

southp wrote:

Wendy Carlos's Twin wrote:The new MONO "Are You Experienced?" LP's are total garbage. AVOID!

Explain.
What's wrong?

The tapes don't exist anymore so they transferred the album from a bad vinyl copy.

just got the saddle creek e-newsletter and buried in the email is this little nugget:

Attn: Record Nerds! We added a pressing history to our website. Enjoy!


pretty cool of a label, especially one of their size, to do.

Wendy Carlos's Twin wrote:

southp wrote:

Wendy Carlos's Twin wrote:The new MONO "Are You Experienced?" LP's are total garbage. AVOID!

Explain.
What's wrong?

The tapes don't exist anymore so they transferred the album from a bad vinyl copy.

I'm not sure where you got your info, but it's been well documented that the original Hendrix tapes have all been painstakingly preserved. Did you buy a copy and give it a listen? Maybe it's the mono mix throwing you off? I'm quite curious about the new Hendrix stuff, so I'd like to know more before I got out and buy them.

"These original monophonic mixes have been transferred from the original master tapes by noted mastering engineer Bernie Grundman. Grundman's all analog mono mastering process helps to present the vitality of the original recordings as accurately as possible."

southp wrote:I'm not sure where you got your info, but it's been well documented that the original Hendrix tapes have all been painstakingly preserved. Did you buy a copy and give it a listen? Maybe it's the mono mix throwing you off? I'm quite curious about the new Hendrix stuff, so I'd like to know more before I got out and buy them.

"These original monophonic mixes have been transferred from the original master tapes by noted mastering engineer Bernie Grundman. Grundman's all analog mono mastering process helps to present the vitality of the original recordings as accurately as possible."

The mono tapes for "Are You Experienced" have been missing for almost 40 years now. Every CD reissue from these mixes has been transferred from UK vinyl. The UK vinyl was notriously poorly mastered, with all kinds of azimuth problems, EQ shifts & generally degraded sound quality. That's why it's easy to spot that they used this pressing (again) for the new LP version. They cleaned it up as best they could (like polishing a turd) but it's still nowhere near master tape quality. The mono US masters appear to be missing as well because for that version they've used a combination of the UK LP and actual single masters. So what you've got there is a combination of superb master tape sound for the singles and poor degraded sound for the LP tracks.

The best way to hear "Are You Experienced?" in mono is to locate the original French LP, which sounds like an audiophile release compared to the UK pressing that Experience Hendrix used. Don't want to pay $100 for a copy? There is a transfer by Prof Stoned that I highly reccommend. Seek it out and forget about the vinyl pressings altogther. This album is in a sorry state.

But if 200g vinyl pressed from a crappy needledrop of a bad pressing is your thing, then I say "go for it".

"Axis: Bold As Love", on the other hand, is superb and highly reccommended. My advice is to pick up "Axis" and avoid "AYE" altogether.

The first record I remember being really disappointed in sound quality wise was Experienced. I just thought it was a shitty copy, it was far from new, but guess it makes sense now.

super nintendo chalmers wrote:The first record I remember being really disappointed in sound quality wise was Experienced. I just thought it was a shitty copy, it was far from new, but guess it makes sense now.

Which version? Keep in mind that I'm talking about the original UK sequence which was mono-only. The version most people have (and the version that Experience Hendrix used) has really bad sound quality. Most people think it's supposed to sound that way and they just shrug and say "oh well". It wouldn't have to be that way if the people in charge of Hendrix's shit knew what they were doing.

Wendy Carlos's Twin wrote:

southp wrote:I'm not sure where you got your info, but it's been well documented that the original Hendrix tapes have all been painstakingly preserved. Did you buy a copy and give it a listen? Maybe it's the mono mix throwing you off? I'm quite curious about the new Hendrix stuff, so I'd like to know more before I got out and buy them.

"These original monophonic mixes have been transferred from the original master tapes by noted mastering engineer Bernie Grundman. Grundman's all analog mono mastering process helps to present the vitality of the original recordings as accurately as possible."

The mono tapes for "Are You Experienced" have been missing for almost 40 years now. Every CD reissue from these mixes has been transferred from UK vinyl. The UK vinyl was notriously poorly mastered, with all kinds of azimuth problems, EQ shifts & generally degraded sound quality. That's why it's easy to spot that they used this pressing (again) for the new LP version. They cleaned it up as best they could (like polishing a turd) but it's still nowhere near master tape quality. The mono US masters appear to be missing as well because for that version they've used a combination of the UK LP and actual single masters. So what you've got there is a combination of superb master tape sound for the singles and poor degraded sound for the LP tracks.

The best way to hear "Are You Experienced?" in mono is to locate the original French LP, which sounds like an audiophile release compared to the UK pressing that Experience Hendrix used. Don't want to pay $100 for a copy? There is a transfer by Prof Stoned that I highly reccommend. Seek it out and forget about the vinyl pressings altogther. This album is in a sorry state.

But if 200g vinyl pressed from a crappy needledrop of a bad pressing is your thing, then I say "go for it".

"Axis: Bold As Love", on the other hand, is superb and highly reccommended. My advice is to pick up "Axis" and avoid "AYE" altogether.

I've heard some mixed reviews, so I totally get what you're saying. But I'm curious if you have heard it yourself or just going on what other's have said? The only thing that doesn't add up is the part about missing tapes for AYE. From my understanding it was remastered from the original mono mixes (on tape). I haven't read anything to indicate they are remastering from an actual vinyl source, back to tape, back to vinyl... that's ridiculous and probably just conjecture on some internet message board.

FWIW I've thoroughly enjoyed the Experience Hendrix reissue of Electric Ladyland that was an all-analog remaster. I owned original stereo pressings of the first 3 albums and I had no problem retiring my EL.