Red Mosquito

Maybe the only thing I don't like about Season 4: the academic social worker working with Colvin can't speak English. It begins with Colvin not being able to speak his academic language, then becomes the social worker can't speak street lingo, and eventually just becomes the social worker not being able to understand English spoken by anyone other than Colvin. ex:

Colvin and the social worker get the OK from the Principal to start their special class.
Asst Principal: You have to protect him. He is a good man who just went out on a limb for you. And this district knows how to yield a chainsaw.
Colvin laughs.
Social Worker: Excuse me?
Colvin: If anything goes wrong, it comes down on him.

Why the hell didn't he understand that?

Season 4

1- Michael
2- Norman
3- Colvin
4- Carver
5- Dukie

Season 4 top five characters:

1. Michael
2. Carver
3. Bubbles
4. Chris Partlow
5. Carcetti

leaving Snoop, Randy, Colvin, Norman, and even Namond off this list is hard. Namond is a much better character the second time around.

Dev wrote:Boone??

lol

Started this today. Watched the first two episodes. I don't feel like I'm watching the greatest show ever but I like it enough to keep watching.

It gets really good, Bada. I just finished season 3 and all 3 seasons rank towards the top of the list for any show I've seen.

Kaius wrote:It gets really good, Bada. I just finished season 3 and all 3 seasons rank towards the top of the list for any show I've seen.

You've got it all to come with season 4. I think it is the best season of any show I've seen, truly incredible.

bada wrote:Started this today. Watched the first two episodes. I don't feel like I'm watching the greatest show ever but I like it enough to keep watching.

Stick with it, trust us here in this thread. It's well worth it.

The first time I watched the series, I really struggled with the first few episodes. I was like "uh, what is all the fuss about?". After a few episodes, there is a payoff. Then is slows back down, and builds up to another payoff, and so forth and so on. The whole of the series is greater than individual episodes. Once you get past Season 3, you'll see how special it is. Then, as mentioned, Season 4 comes along, which is just superb.

darth_vedder wrote:

bada wrote:Started this today. Watched the first two episodes. I don't feel like I'm watching the greatest show ever but I like it enough to keep watching.

Stick with it, trust us here in this thread. It's well worth it.

The first time I watched the series, I really struggled with the first few episodes. I was like "uh, what is all the fuss about?". After a few episodes, there is a payoff. Then is slows back down, and builds up to another payoff, and so forth and so on. The whole of the series is greater than individual episodes. Once you get past Season 3, you'll see how special it is. Then, as mentioned, Season 4 comes along, which is just superb.

I'm sticking with for sure. The scene in episode 4 where they recreate a shooting in an apt and all the say is "fuck" over and over hooked me. Plus now I'm starting to like the characters instead of just trying to remember which other show I recognize the actors from. The entire cast is filled with "oh I know that guy...." I'm all in.

If you don't enjoy season two please don't give up on it. Season three will make it all worth while.

Just finished Season 2....with the exception of Ziggy I enjoyed it. He has to be the worst crime fiction classic fuck up cliche I couldn't take him.

I've started watching from the beginning again. IT'S SO GOOD.

I didn't love Ziggy, and my first time through I didn't care for him at all. But each viewing I've started to realize his importance. He's the anti-stringer, avon, prop joe, marlo, etc. Those men were criminals. Smart, calculating criminals.

Ziggy is the people that are drawn in by the perceived glamour of the criminal life, and are totally incapable of succeeding in it. The guys that aren't "hard" enough to make it, the cowards. I think people hate Ziggy because he is what nearly anyone of us would be if we decided to try and be criminals, and in that respect he's not a cliche- he's a pretty accurate representation. Ziggy is season 1 Tim Bayliss.

@SkitchP wrote:I didn't love Ziggy, and my first time through I didn't care for him at all. But each viewing I've started to realize his importance. He's the anti-stringer, avon, prop joe, marlo, etc. Those men were criminals. Smart, calculating criminals.

Ziggy is the people that are drawn in by the perceived glamour of the criminal life, and are totally incapable of succeeding in it. The guys that aren't "hard" enough to make it, the cowards. I think people hate Ziggy because he is what nearly anyone of us would be if we decided to try and be criminals, and in that respect he's not a cliche- he's a pretty accurate representation. Ziggy is season 1 Tim Bayliss.

Wouldnt Wallace have also been that character, just better?

BTW, I had no problem with Ziggy. Not my favorite by any stretch, but he didnt bother me.

numbers wrote:

@SkitchP wrote:I didn't love Ziggy, and my first time through I didn't care for him at all. But each viewing I've started to realize his importance. He's the anti-stringer, avon, prop joe, marlo, etc. Those men were criminals. Smart, calculating criminals.

Ziggy is the people that are drawn in by the perceived glamour of the criminal life, and are totally incapable of succeeding in it. The guys that aren't "hard" enough to make it, the cowards. I think people hate Ziggy because he is what nearly anyone of us would be if we decided to try and be criminals, and in that respect he's not a cliche- he's a pretty accurate representation. Ziggy is season 1 Tim Bayliss.

Wouldnt Wallace have also been that character, just better?

What about White Mike?

Simple Torture wrote:

numbers wrote:

@SkitchP wrote:I didn't love Ziggy, and my first time through I didn't care for him at all. But each viewing I've started to realize his importance. He's the anti-stringer, avon, prop joe, marlo, etc. Those men were criminals. Smart, calculating criminals.

Ziggy is the people that are drawn in by the perceived glamour of the criminal life, and are totally incapable of succeeding in it. The guys that aren't "hard" enough to make it, the cowards. I think people hate Ziggy because he is what nearly anyone of us would be if we decided to try and be criminals, and in that respect he's not a cliche- he's a pretty accurate representation. Ziggy is season 1 Tim Bayliss.

Wouldnt Wallace have also been that character, just better?

What about White Mike?

White Mike knew how to take care of #1, he was no fool.

@SkitchP wrote:I didn't love Ziggy, and my first time through I didn't care for him at all. But each viewing I've started to realize his importance. He's the anti-stringer, avon, prop joe, marlo, etc. Those men were criminals. Smart, calculating criminals.

Ziggy is the people that are drawn in by the perceived glamour of the criminal life, and are totally incapable of succeeding in it. The guys that aren't "hard" enough to make it, the cowards. I think people hate Ziggy because he is what nearly anyone of us would be if we decided to try and be criminals, and in that respect he's not a cliche- he's a pretty accurate representation. Ziggy is season 1 Tim Bayliss.

By cliche I meant he is character type that is very prevalent in crime fiction except he seemed to be turned up to 100.

But a drinking duck. C'mon!

That duck

Spoiler: show

died

Kaius.