Red Mosquito

Iholdthepain wrote:I predict no minds being changed in this thread...

stip wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:I mean, I'm not above the sufer-dewd lyrics (AtW, Big Wave, these are fantastic songs in my book) but LB isn't even layered. It's not about anything else. It's a fucking commercial. It's a jingle.

It's a masters class in anthem writing.

Although that fade is the single worst production decision in their catalog

durdencommatyler wrote:

stip wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:I just don't understand Stip --- as a lyrics guy and a guy who hates Ed's obvious and trite lyrical metaphors (especially the tree stuff) -- how you can appreciate LB (the song) at all. It's his absolute worst "surf" song to date. Fine there's the anthem build to the music or whatever. But is that really enough? Their go-to trick? That works on you again here? Really?

It's probably the only one of these songs that does it for me, actually. UK doesn't seem finished and I don't really care for LBC

And it's no more a surf song than RVM is a song about driving habits

No true. It's the exact opposite. It's actually more of a surf song than anything they've ever done. There is no metaphor here actually.

stip wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:I mean, I'm not above the sufer-dewd lyrics (AtW, Big Wave, these are fantastic songs in my book) but LB isn't even layered. It's not about anything else. It's a fucking commercial. It's a jingle.

It's a masters class in anthem writing.

Although that fade is the single worst production decision in their catalog

durdencommatyler wrote:

stip wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:I just don't understand Stip --- as a lyrics guy and a guy who hates Ed's obvious and trite lyrical metaphors (especially the tree stuff) -- how you can appreciate LB (the song) at all. It's his absolute worst "surf" song to date. Fine there's the anthem build to the music or whatever. But is that really enough? Their go-to trick? That works on you again here? Really?

It's probably the only one of these songs that does it for me, actually. UK doesn't seem finished and I don't really care for LBC

And it's no more a surf song than RVM is a song about driving habits

No true. It's the exact opposite. It's actually more of a surf song than anything they've ever done. There is no metaphor here actually.

stip wrote:

Iholdthepain wrote:I predict no minds being changed in this thread...

Just wait until DcT follows my directions

stip wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

stip wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:I just don't understand Stip --- as a lyrics guy and a guy who hates Ed's obvious and trite lyrical metaphors (especially the tree stuff) -- how you can appreciate LB (the song) at all. It's his absolute worst "surf" song to date. Fine there's the anthem build to the music or whatever. But is that really enough? Their go-to trick? That works on you again here? Really?

It's probably the only one of these songs that does it for me, actually. UK doesn't seem finished and I don't really care for LBC

And it's no more a surf song than RVM is a song about driving habits

No true. It's the exact opposite. It's actually more of a surf song than anything they've ever done. There is no metaphor here actually.

The verse after that awesome solo are the best lyrics Michael stipe never wrote for a pearl jam song

stip wrote:Shit, my battery is dying during this important conversation

stip wrote:

Iholdthepain wrote:I predict no minds being changed in this thread...

Just wait until DcT follows my directions

durdencommatyler wrote:

stip wrote:

Iholdthepain wrote:I predict no minds being changed in this thread...

Just wait until DcT follows my directions

What directions? YOU DIDN'T GIVE ME ANY DIRECTIONS

Iholdthepain wrote:

stip wrote:

Iholdthepain wrote:I predict no minds being changed in this thread...

Just wait until DcT follows my directions

This is the best chance you have, and I admit it (of all things) just might work...

and does anyone know where d,t is getting this 'surf-song' nonsense from?

durdencommatyler wrote:

stip wrote:

Iholdthepain wrote:I predict no minds being changed in this thread...

Just wait until DcT follows my directions

What directions? YOU DIDN'T GIVE ME ANY DIRECTIONS

durdencommatyler wrote:

stip wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:I mean, I'm not above the sufer-dewd lyrics (AtW, Big Wave, these are fantastic songs in my book) but LB isn't even layered. It's not about anything else. It's a fucking commercial. It's a jingle.

It's a masters class in anthem writing.

Although that fade is the single worst production decision in their catalog

Is it though? You think this this the strongest anthem this band has produced? You're really saying the song Lightning Bolt is better than Alive, Even Flow, Rearviewmirror, Given to Fly, Corduroy, and Betterman?

stip wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

stip wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:I mean, I'm not above the sufer-dewd lyrics (AtW, Big Wave, these are fantastic songs in my book) but LB isn't even layered. It's not about anything else. It's a fucking commercial. It's a jingle.

It's a masters class in anthem writing.

Although that fade is the single worst production decision in their catalog

Is it though? You think this this the strongest anthem this band has produced? You're really saying the song Lightning Bolt is better than Alive, Even Flow, Rearviewmirror, Given to Fly, Corduroy, and Betterman?

Of course not. That would be absurd

durdencommatyler wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

stip wrote:

Iholdthepain wrote:I predict no minds being changed in this thread...

Just wait until DcT follows my directions

What directions? YOU DIDN'T GIVE ME ANY DIRECTIONS

You mean the Annie Clark thing?

durdencommatyler wrote:

stip wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

stip wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:I just don't understand Stip --- as a lyrics guy and a guy who hates Ed's obvious and trite lyrical metaphors (especially the tree stuff) -- how you can appreciate LB (the song) at all. It's his absolute worst "surf" song to date. Fine there's the anthem build to the music or whatever. But is that really enough? Their go-to trick? That works on you again here? Really?

It's probably the only one of these songs that does it for me, actually. UK doesn't seem finished and I don't really care for LBC

And it's no more a surf song than RVM is a song about driving habits

No true. It's the exact opposite. It's actually more of a surf song than anything they've ever done. There is no metaphor here actually.

The verse after that awesome solo are the best lyrics Michael stipe never wrote for a pearl jam song

wat

Django Butterworth wrote:

Iholdthepain wrote:

stip wrote:

Iholdthepain wrote:I predict no minds being changed in this thread...

Just wait until DcT follows my directions

This is the best chance you have, and I admit it (of all things) just might work...

and does anyone know where d,t is getting this 'surf-song' nonsense from?

The word beach is used, so I guess that makes it a surf song?

Otherwise I dunno.

stip wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

stip wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

stip wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:I just don't understand Stip --- as a lyrics guy and a guy who hates Ed's obvious and trite lyrical metaphors (especially the tree stuff) -- how you can appreciate LB (the song) at all. It's his absolute worst "surf" song to date. Fine there's the anthem build to the music or whatever. But is that really enough? Their go-to trick? That works on you again here? Really?

It's probably the only one of these songs that does it for me, actually. UK doesn't seem finished and I don't really care for LBC

And it's no more a surf song than RVM is a song about driving habits

No true. It's the exact opposite. It's actually more of a surf song than anything they've ever done. There is no metaphor here actually.

The verse after that awesome solo are the best lyrics Michael stipe never wrote for a pearl jam song

wat

The always something/never nothing part. Can someone post them ?