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Re: Post-Riot Act Moneygrab

Posted: Thu November 14, 2013 7:00 pm
by Leatherhead
:?

Re: Post-Riot Act Moneygrab

Posted: Thu November 14, 2013 7:04 pm
by BurtReynolds
Image

Re: Post-Riot Act Moneygrab

Posted: Thu November 14, 2013 7:13 pm
by Heathen
What do you mean you kid?

Re: Post-Riot Act Moneygrab

Posted: Thu November 14, 2013 7:16 pm
by BurtReynolds
if you say "just kidding" on the internet, you can get away with saying anything.

Re: Post-Riot Act Moneygrab

Posted: Thu November 14, 2013 7:18 pm
by Heathen
Still waiting for PJ to say that regarding the last three albums :?

Re: Post-Riot Act Moneygrab

Posted: Thu November 14, 2013 7:28 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
BurtReynolds wrote:if you say "just kidding" on the internet, you can get away with saying anything.
So true!

Re: Post-Riot Act Moneygrab

Posted: Fri November 15, 2013 9:07 pm
by hlniv
Complete list of money-grabbing songs to be considered "good" or better. All other songs should not be considered "good". This is definitive.

Man of the Hour
Comatose
Severed Hand
Marker in the Sand
Parachutes
Unemployable
Got Some
Amongst the Waves
The End
Getaway
MYM
My Father's Son
Lightning Bolt
Pendulum
Yellow Moon

15 songs in 10 years

edit - added parachutes. Can't seem to find any fathomable way to add any addional songs, even based on stip's revisionist list

So, 15 songs in 10 years. Kind of shocking when compared to 40-50 songs that would qualify at this level in the 7 years from '91- to '98.

Re: Post-Riot Act Moneygrab

Posted: Fri November 15, 2013 9:15 pm
by stip
my historical revisionist list (all songs borerline 4 stars or better)

Man of the Hour
Love Reign O'er Me (a cover, but fine)
Life Wasted
WWS
Comatose
Severed Hand
Marker
Parachutes
Come Back
GSMF
Got Some
The Fixer
Johnny Guitar
Just Breathe
Amongst the Waves
Force of Nature
The End
getaway
MYM
Sirens
Lightning Bolt
Infallible
Pendulum
Swallowed Whole
Sleeping By Myself
Yellow Moon



It's been a good couple of years...

Re: Post-Riot Act Moneygrab

Posted: Fri November 15, 2013 9:21 pm
by McParadigm
"couple of years" being the most revisionist part.

Re: Post-Riot Act Moneygrab

Posted: Fri November 15, 2013 11:18 pm
by stip
:lol:

Re: Post-Riot Act Moneygrab

Posted: Fri November 15, 2013 11:32 pm
by Kevin Davis
Five couples of years.

Re: Post-Riot Act Moneygrab

Posted: Sat November 16, 2013 12:34 am
by Anders
Man of the Hour
Gone (demo)
Life Wasted
Marker
Army Reserve
Parachutes
Come Back
Inside Job
Just Breathe
Amongst The Waves
Force of Nature
Getaway
Infallible
Pendulum
Yellow Moon

Re: Post-Riot Act Moneygrab

Posted: Sat November 16, 2013 2:13 pm
by Mrpennach
I don't get this concept of "selling out" with this band or "money grab" songs or "why they don't make music like they used to? Boo f-ing hoo"

They don't make music like they used to because they've evolved like human being's do. If you want the same album every time go buy any Aerosmith or Creed record.

This constant wait for "sound like they're older stuff" is baffling. It's either a good album/song or not... Simple as that. Every single album has both. Some more good and some more not so good.

I just saw PJ last night for the umpteenth (I lost count) time. They are still relevant, they're new songs as standalone hold up to anything else out there. On the floor sitting with folks from all different age groups who discovered them at Ten, Vitalogy, Avocado, Lightning Bolt. The constant was the immediate intrigue when they heard them the first time. What was even more interesting were the people (when WWS, Nothingman, Given To Fly) that were like "I can't believe I missed that... Where was i"? Then the folks who were shocked that the new songs were new songs and how great they were.

Oh... And the sell out shit. I don't get that at all. "Daughter", "Dissident", "Better Man", 1/2 and half the "Yield" album could be perceived as such... If you're ignorant.

Re: Post-Riot Act Moneygrab

Posted: Sat November 16, 2013 2:27 pm
by harmless
Cool story.

Re: Post-Riot Act Moneygrab

Posted: Sat November 16, 2013 3:51 pm
by Heathen
Mrpennach wrote:I don't get this concept of "seedling out" with this band


that's the best I can do to help you out

Re: Post-Riot Act Moneygrab

Posted: Sat November 16, 2013 5:09 pm
by stip
I remember back when Jack Irons made pearl jam care about transplanting their seedlings

Re: Post-Riot Act Moneygrab

Posted: Sat November 16, 2013 5:36 pm
by harmless
stip wrote:I remember back the early days when Jack was young and thus amazed

Re: Post-Riot Act Moneygrab

Posted: Sat November 16, 2013 6:00 pm
by Mine
:lol:

Re: Post-Riot Act Moneygrab

Posted: Tue November 19, 2013 9:36 pm
by hlniv
Lest we forget the topic at hand-

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/ ... s-20090901

Pearl Jam's Big Plans for Target Deal: "Fans Have to Trust Us"
Tweet
By DANIEL KREPS
September 1, 2009 12:48 PM ET
Pearl Jam's management has discussed why the band agreed to an exclusive big box retail deal with Target for their upcoming album Backspacer, and now Eddie Vedder and Co. have opened up to Billboard. The bottom line: the agreement passed the band's "moral barometer" and opened up the possibility of cool exclusives for die-hard fans.


Grab dat money. Grab dat money

Re: Post-Riot Act Moneygrab

Posted: Tue November 19, 2013 11:09 pm
by harmless
hlniv wrote:Lest we forget the topic at hand-

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/ ... s-20090901

Pearl Jam's Big Plans for Target Deal: "Fans Have to Trust Us"
Tweet
By DANIEL KREPS
September 1, 2009 12:48 PM ET
Pearl Jam's management has discussed why the band agreed to an exclusive big box retail deal with Target for their upcoming album Backspacer, and now Eddie Vedder and Co. have opened up to Billboard. The bottom line: the agreement passed the band's "moral barometer" and opened up the possibility of cool exclusives for die-hard fans.


Grab dat money. Grab dat money
Ugh, thanks for reminding me.