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Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Fri April 28, 2017 5:13 pm
by McParadigm
tommymtcom wrote:Do you guys think he's doing worse than Rubio or Cruz would have?
As career politicians and party players, they would have been far more capable of navigating the process and strategizing responses to events, and would have been much less inclined to cater to extremes.
I don't think either would have picked so many fights and then immediately backed down each time (often before the threat has time to generate a response), or exacerbated the NK situation so much.
Both would push for ideas I am ideologically opposed to.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Fri April 28, 2017 5:58 pm
by BurtReynolds
He would have been much better at reinforcing the corrupt establishment's power over the people while convincing his idiot voter base he worked in their interests.
Not as well as Hillary would have been at reinforcing the corrupt establishment's power over the people while convincing her idiot voter base she worked in their interests, but still better than Trump.
Trump is just so, so, bad at it.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Fri April 28, 2017 5:58 pm
by McParadigm
I mean I'd still be hoping for Wild Stallions to come and save the day, but.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Fri April 28, 2017 6:06 pm
by BurtReynolds
I see he backed down on NAFTA, too. lol.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Fri April 28, 2017 6:08 pm
by @SkitchP
Cruz or Rubio would have been scarier I think. They might have the political know how and savvy to make some of the ridiculous things happen. Trump just drunkenly rambles at the bar on wednesday night about the company he's going to start.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Fri April 28, 2017 6:20 pm
by malice
Cruz is a corrupt asshole and Rubio is an idiot. trump is both of those things without any political experience or knowledge. None are acceptable as leaders
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Fri April 28, 2017 6:22 pm
by tommymtcom
Trumps incompetence is the only thing he has going for him.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Fri April 28, 2017 6:26 pm
by McParadigm
@SkitchP wrote:Cruz or Rubio would have been scarier I think. They might have the political know how and savvy to make some of the ridiculous things happen. Trump just drunkenly rambles at the bar on wednesday night about the company he's going to start.
They are both part of an infrastructure, and they serve the infrastructure as much as themselves. There are certain ideas that Good Conservatives (TM) know are good for talking and fundraising, but are not good for the party if enacted. Same with Dems.
Politics is basically a campaign money industry, where the lesser client (the public) is also capable of firing you. Serving the machine, good or bad otherwise, moderates a lot of ideologically extreme ambitions.
Republicans are aiming big right now because they can blame on Donald actions they would never want credited to themselves.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Fri April 28, 2017 7:50 pm
by McParadigm
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Sat April 29, 2017 2:29 am
by Birds in Hell
Bi_3 wrote:"I loved my previous life, I loved my previous life. I had so many things going," Trump said in an interview with Reuters. "I actually, this is more work than my previous life. I thought it would be easier."
"How hard could it be? A black fella can do it" - Trump's brain 2014
I'm sure most, if not every, President finds out the job is much more difficult than they expected. It's probably the kind of thing you can never fully prepare yourself for.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Sat April 29, 2017 4:52 am
by simple schoolboy
McParadigm wrote:
Two anecdotes aren't much to go off of, but both Sheriff Clarke and Sheriff Arpaio were or are big fans of national press. Is it wrong to assume that if a county Sheriff has regular national press coverage, he's probably an asshole?
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Sat April 29, 2017 3:17 pm
by Bi_3
Birds in Hell wrote:Bi_3 wrote:"I loved my previous life, I loved my previous life. I had so many things going," Trump said in an interview with Reuters. "I actually, this is more work than my previous life. I thought it would be easier."
"How hard could it be? A black fella can do it" - Trump's brain 2014
I'm sure most, if not every, President finds out the job is much more difficult than they expected. It's probably the kind of thing you can never fully prepare yourself for.
Sure, but to me that was a statement of regret versus an admission of surprise. Basically admitting he wouldn't do it again.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Sat April 29, 2017 3:44 pm
by McParadigm
Bi_3 wrote:Birds in Hell wrote:Bi_3 wrote:"I loved my previous life, I loved my previous life. I had so many things going," Trump said in an interview with Reuters. "I actually, this is more work than my previous life. I thought it would be easier."
"How hard could it be? A black fella can do it" - Trump's brain 2014
I'm sure most, if not every, President finds out the job is much more difficult than they expected. It's probably the kind of thing you can never fully prepare yourself for.
Sure, but to me that was a statement of regret versus an admission of surprise. Basically admitting he wouldn't do it again.
Yeah, this one reads a lot like a Gob Bluth gif.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Sun April 30, 2017 3:32 pm
by McParadigm
Trigger warning
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Sun April 30, 2017 5:16 pm
by malice
Birds in Hell wrote:Bi_3 wrote:"I loved my previous life, I loved my previous life. I had so many things going," Trump said in an interview with Reuters. "I actually, this is more work than my previous life. I thought it would be easier."
"How hard could it be? A black fella can do it" - Trump's brain 2014
I'm sure most, if not every, President finds out the job is much more difficult than they expected. It's probably the kind of thing you can never fully prepare yourself for.
that's not the point of the post
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Sun April 30, 2017 7:50 pm
by 96583UP
i wonder if come the midterm elections, republicans will find themselves campaigning against him
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Sun April 30, 2017 8:32 pm
by malice
96583UP wrote:i wonder if come the midterm elections, republicans will find themselves campaigning against him
they did during this one, until it became obvious that the idiot population was backing every jackass comment out of his mouth
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Sun April 30, 2017 9:58 pm
by Bi_3
McParadigm wrote:@SkitchP wrote:Cruz or Rubio would have been scarier I think. They might have the political know how and savvy to make some of the ridiculous things happen. Trump just drunkenly rambles at the bar on wednesday night about the company he's going to start.
They are both part of an infrastructure, and they serve the infrastructure as much as themselves. There are certain ideas that Good Conservatives (TM) know are good for talking and fundraising, but are not good for the party if enacted. Same with Dems.
Politics is basically a campaign money industry, where the lesser client (the public) is also capable of firing you. Serving the machine, good or bad otherwise, moderates a lot of ideologically extreme ambitions.
Republicans are aiming big right now because they can blame on Donald actions they would never want credited to themselves.
You are a better poster without all the tweets
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Mon May 01, 2017 5:11 pm
by Strat
"I mean, had Andrew Jackson been a little bit later, you wouldn't have had the Civil War. He was a very tough person, but he had a big heart. And he was really angry that he saw what was happening, with regard to the Civil War. He said, there's no reason for this."
Trump continued, "People don't realize, the Civil War -- you think about it, why? People don't ask that question. But why was there a Civil War? Why could that one not have been worked out?"
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Mon May 01, 2017 5:17 pm
by Simple Torture
Strat wrote:"I mean, had Andrew Jackson been a little bit later, you wouldn't have had the Civil War. He was a very tough person, but he had a big heart. And he was really angry that he saw what was happening, with regard to the Civil War. He said, there's no reason for this."
Trump continued, "People don't realize, the Civil War -- you think about it, why? People don't ask that question. But why was there a Civil War? Why could that one not have been worked out?"
I came here to post this. The thing is: I think the confusion from the first paragraph comes from the fact that Trump does not have a good vocabulary or a good grasp of how the English language works (or, if you're being generous, he doesn't think before he puts a sentence together), so there's some tense confusion. I think he wanted to say, "[Jackson]
would have been really angry that he saw what was happening...He
would have said, there's no reason for this." Past tenses and the conditional are hard for some people; I see it in my students' writing all the time (note: usually people who are ELL, or otherwise lazy AF).
The second part, of course, is what I'm sure Sean Spicer will bungle today at his press briefing.