Red Mosquito

philpritchard wrote:So my guess is that it's taking his numbers and applying them to a full season. Price only threw 77 innings with the Tigers, so WhatIf looks at that and assumes he can only go 3-4 innings per game even though he's a starter. That sucks.

I dunno, I just went to run a sim with 2008 Sabathia and the very first one I ran had him throw 7 shutout innings of 3-hit ball.

Lament wrote:

philpritchard wrote:So my guess is that it's taking his numbers and applying them to a full season. Price only threw 77 innings with the Tigers, so WhatIf looks at that and assumes he can only go 3-4 innings per game even though he's a starter. That sucks.

I dunno, I just went to run a sim with 2008 Sabathia and the very first one I ran had him throw 7 shutout innings of 3-hit ball.

Huh. Was it 2008 Sabathia from the Brewers? I ran 10ish games and literally never got more than 4 innings/50 pitches. Maybe it just doesn't like Price.

Yeah, it was Brewers CC.

@SkitchP wrote:

spike wrote:

philpritchard wrote:

@SkitchP wrote:

spike wrote:so i should stay away from 2008 sabathia?

we honestly have no idea.

I just added post-deadline Price from last year and ran a bunch of sims with him starting. It was a disaster. He rarely made it out of the 3rd inning, and even we he pitched well he never went more than 4.

this is a fine example of that canadian hospitality you always hear about. thanks, phil; you are a good friend.

lol. Yeah, phil did that only because he wanted to know if he could use this years David Price.

Lament wrote:

philpritchard wrote:So my guess is that it's taking his numbers and applying them to a full season. Price only threw 77 innings with the Tigers, so WhatIf looks at that and assumes he can only go 3-4 innings per game even though he's a starter. That sucks.

I dunno, I just went to run a sim with 2008 Sabathia and the very first one I ran had him throw 7 shutout innings of 3-hit ball.

cool, now do it thirty more times and let me know. k thx!

Made some tweaks to my Rangers roster. Think I put together a better club this time around. Took out a few of my favorites and changed a few years on some guys. We will see how she goes.

C- Ivan Rodriguez 2000 R
1B- Rafael Palmeiro 1993 L
2B- Julio Franco 1991 R
SS- Toby Harrah 1975 R
3B- Adrian Beltre 2012 R
LF- Mike Hargrove 1977 L
CF- Josh Hamilton 2010 L
RF- Juan Gonzalez 1993 R

OF- Ruben Sierra 1989 S
C/1B- Mike Napoli 2011 R
2B- Mark McLemore 1996 S
IF/OF- Frank Catalanotto 2001 L
OF- Jose Canseco 1994 R

SP- Fergie Jenkins 1974 R
SP- Bert Blyleven 1976 R
SP- Jon Matlack 1978 L
SP- Nolan Ryan 1989 R

RP- Jim Kern 1979 R
RP- Greg? Harris 1985 R
RP- Jeff Zimmerman 1999 R
RP- Mike Mason 1984 L
RP- Kenny Rogers 1990 L
RP- Francisco Cordero 2004 R
RP- Neftali Feliz 2009 R
RP- John Wetteland 1997 R

Fun team I made a few months ago. All Cuban team.....


C 1918 Mike Gonzalez R .252 3 20 C/C $3,433,405
1B 1993 Rafael Palmeiro L .295 37 105 A/B $6,436,963
2B 1963 Tony Taylor R .281 5 49 A-/C+ $5,121,557
3B 1970 Tony Perez R .317 40 129 D/C+ $6,216,858
SS 1965 Zoilo Versalles R .273 19 77 C-/B+ $5,365,823
OF 1954 Minnie Minoso R .320 19 116 C+/B+ $7,288,821
OF 1988 Jose Canseco R .307 42 124 C+/C+ $6,711,391
OF 1970 Tony Oliva L .325 23 107 C-/A $6,012,831
2B 1973 Tito Fuentes S .277 6 63 A/B+ $5,930,254
SS 1970 Bert Campaneris R .279 22 64 B/B+ $5,520,706
OF 1968 Jose Cardenal R .257 7 44 C/A+ $4,505,024
2B 1971 Cookie Rojas R .300 6 59 A/C- $3,498,129
OF 2002 Eli Marrero R .262 18 66 B/D+ $2,682,565

SP 1923 Dolf Luque R 27-8 2 1.93 1.14 151-88 $12,285,555
SP/RP 1968 Luis Tiant R 21-9 0 1.60 0.87 264-73 $9,944,786
SP/RP 1959 Camilo Pascual R 17-10 0 2.64 1.14 185-69 $8,938,052
SP/RP 1966 Mike Cuellar L 12-10 2 2.22 1.08 175-52 $7,137,718
SP/RP 2013 Jose Fernandez R 12-6 0 2.19 0.98 187-58 $6,830,574
SP/RP 1965 Marcelino Lopez L 14-13 1 2.93 1.24 122-82 $5,689,012
SP/RP 2003 Livan Hernandez R 15-10 0 3.20 1.21 178-57 $5,645,522
SP/RP 2005 Jose Contreras R 15-7 0 3.61 1.23 154-75 $4,910,147
SP/RP 1970 Diego Segui R 10-10 2 2.56 1.22 95-68 $4,328,068
SP/RP 2012 Aroldis Chapman L 5-5 38 1.51 0.81 122-23 $3,576,364
SP/RP 1953 Sandy Consuegra R 7-5 3 2.54 1.21 30-28 $2,907,581
SP/RP 2005 Danys Baez R 5-4 41 2.86 1.33 51-30 $1,567,523

$142 million

i just gotta work out my bullpen. obvious choices are rollie fingers and k-rod, then there are several one year wonder closers from the aughts like dan kolb, derrick turnbow, and john axford. also, i just remembered that trevor hoffman pitched for the crew a few seasons ago.

Kolby! Ex Ranger. Really liked him. Kam Loe as well.