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What's the story with 5.7 ammo?

BurtReynolds wrote:What's the story with 5.7 ammo?

5.7 was developed for pistol/ personal defense weapon cartridge by FN to penetrate kevlar body armor.

Pistol ammo intended to defeat body armor is prohibited. The use case projectile was never released on the US civilian market.

The 5.7 you can buy is polymer tipped whatever. Its paying for something like 5.56 hunting ammo at lower velocity/ bullet weight, but for a weird platform you overpaid for.

Alternatively, its overpaying for a Keltech equivilent in .22 magnum.

Oh, I don't think anything new is going on regarding 5.7 on a regulatory basis. Unless you bought a .223 solvent trap recently of course.

The ATF has unofficially declared a Jihad on the following:

1) AR pistols with 'braces'. They have promised forthcoming binding new interpretations for what makes a pistol brace kosher or not. They will not provide objective standards to inform owners whether they have a legit AR pistol or an SBR. They expect you to submit photos and other info to them, and they'll let you know. They claim to wave the $200 tax stamp fee for registration if you jump through their hoops.

2) 80% lowers - so far limited to Polymer80, but purchasers of their kits have been contacted. They seem to want to make home manufacture of firearms more difficult. This is semi retarded as parts kits are the more significant issue with home gunsmithing. As long as parts kits are uncontrolled, 3D printed receivers (and therefore completed guns) are getting to be fairly trivial.

3) 'Solvent Traps' - the suppressor equivalent of 80% lowers. The main benefit of these rather than finished suppressors is the ATF approval process is faster than the normal form 4, which is something like 6 months. I suppose ATFs concern is that someone, somewhere bought one of these and drilled it out without submitting a form 1.

I am so thankful they are protecting our children by cracking down on that crap. This is just common sense infringement. A gentleman doesn’t need any of that equipment for hunting. It’s gun fetishist stuff and it’s GROSS.

macphisto wrote:I am so thankful they are protecting our children by cracking down on that crap. This is just common sense infringement. A gentleman doesn’t need any of that equipment for hunting. It’s gun fetishist stuff and it’s GROSS.

The last time they wanted to prove their importance, a lot of innocents ended up dead. Anytime the ATF gets their panties in a knot is reason for concern.

In Minecraft

The ATF is backing off their new pistol brace guidance for now. We'll see what they do with the new administration.

am i the only one who cares about the fucking rules

McParadigm wrote:am i the only one who cares about the fucking rules

Thank you for your contribution. I do not trust the media to properly distinguish between an unfortunate escalation of the enforcement of foul rules and a random shooting.

simple schoolboy wrote:

McParadigm wrote:am i the only one who cares about the fucking rules

Thank you for your contribution. I do not trust the media to properly distinguish between an unfortunate escalation of the enforcement of foul rules and a random shooting.

obviously you're not a golfer

lennytheweedwhacker wrote:

simple schoolboy wrote:

McParadigm wrote:am i the only one who cares about the fucking rules

Thank you for your contribution. I do not trust the media to properly distinguish between an unfortunate escalation of the enforcement of foul rules and a random shooting.

obviously you're not a golfer

Bringing it back to the topic at hand, the polymer bowling pins work as 'self healing' targets. The material reforms to some degree after the bullet's passage, resulting in a very small (or negligible) permanent cavity. These targets can take far more impacts than wood or paper targets that have permanent bullet cavities at least as big as the bullet diameter.

yeah super interesting

You can say what you want about the tenets of national socialism but at least it's an ethos.

McParadigm wrote:yeah super interesting

Its not for everyone, but if you are curious about such physical properties of materials, it is interesting.

To your original post, Michael Moore convinced me that there would not be enough people in a bowling alley to pull off a mass shooting. Did he oversell Bowling Alone?

You see what happens, Larry?

i just dropped in to see what condition my condition was in

Kyle Rittenhouse has had an additional charge of violating curfew levied against him. I wonder how many others were charged with that offense.

The prosecutor has already been changed, right? Going for a plea rather than dropping all charges (except maybe the minor in posession, not sure about that one)?

BurtReynolds wrote:What's the story with 5.7 ammo?

Keltech also has an abomination of a pistol that uses the FN P90 50 rd magazine (or perhaps a clone). Now that 9mm and 5.7 have achieved near parity in price, I guess the idea is that you can justify these types of purchases.

The National Rifle Association has filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy. The gun rights advocacy group says it will leave a ‘corrupt political and regulatory environment’ in New York state and instead restructure as a nonprofit in Texas.

Leadership within the pro-Second Amendment group has been under fire for misusing millions of dollars in funds. In August 2020, NY Attorney General Letitia James announced that she was suing to dissolve the NRA for ‘years of self-dealing and illegal conduct.’ The NRA responded by suing James back, claiming that she violated its First Amendment rights. ‘The NRA's claimed financial status has finally met its moral status: bankrupt,’ AG James said in a statement after the bankruptcy announcement. ‘While we review this filing, we will not allow the NRA to use this or any other tactic to evade accountability and my office’s oversight.’

According to OpenSecrets, the NRA spent more than $32.3 million on political contributions, lobbying efforts, and other outside spending during the 2020 election cycle