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Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Sat August 26, 2023 4:10 am
by tragabigzanda
FUCK ICE

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Sat August 26, 2023 1:01 pm
by blueviper
tragabigzanda wrote:Here are some words that rhyme with Corey:

gory

story

allegory

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Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Mon August 28, 2023 5:28 pm
by Coach
At the end of the day, the Federal election interference trial will start March 4, 2024.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Mon August 28, 2023 5:45 pm
by spike
Coach wrote:At the end of the day, the Federal election interference trial will start March 4, 2024.
Trump wanted it pushed til 2026, so this is a win.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Mon August 28, 2023 5:53 pm
by Coach
spike wrote:
Coach wrote:At the end of the day, the Federal election interference trial will start March 4, 2024.
Trump wanted it pushed til 2026, so this is a win.
Especially before the election, understanding he could win and still go/be in prison.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Mon August 28, 2023 6:14 pm
by 96583UP
hopefully he gets DQ'ed based on constitutional amendment 14 in the meantime

how would that be applied

certain states take him off the ballot?

guess none of the red states would

but maybe with a concerted effort and independent judiciary (and a pile of special interest money) in some purple states, we can rig the election to exclude him enforce the constitution to ensure only candidates who qualify are on the ballot

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Mon August 28, 2023 6:30 pm
by 4/5
Or the Democratic candidate could just win more electoral votes than him.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Mon August 28, 2023 6:43 pm
by Coach
I'm rooting for the Trump goes to prison, wins election and pardons himself from there storyline.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Mon August 28, 2023 7:27 pm
by Bi_3
96583UP wrote:hopefully he gets DQ'ed based on constitutional amendment 14 in the meantime

how would that be applied

certain states take him off the ballot?

guess none of the red states would

but maybe with a concerted effort and independent judiciary (and a pile of special interest money) in some purple states, we can rig the election to exclude him enforce the constitution to ensure only candidates who qualify are on the ballot

How is this possible without a conviction on those charges? Is he even charged with insurrection?

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Mon August 28, 2023 7:34 pm
by B
Bi_3 wrote:
96583UP wrote:hopefully he gets DQ'ed based on constitutional amendment 14 in the meantime

how would that be applied

certain states take him off the ballot?

guess none of the red states would

but maybe with a concerted effort and independent judiciary (and a pile of special interest money) in some purple states, we can rig the election to exclude him enforce the constitution to ensure only candidates who qualify are on the ballot

How is this possible without a conviction on those charges? Is he even charged with insurrection?
I can't believe that you and I posted the same thing in the N&D forum.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Mon August 28, 2023 7:41 pm
by wease
It would be easier all around if he’d just fucking die.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Mon August 28, 2023 7:46 pm
by B
wease wrote:It would be easier all around if he’d just fucking die.
Dude, you can't talk about B_i like that.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Mon August 28, 2023 7:49 pm
by wease
B wrote:
wease wrote:It would be easier all around if he’d just fucking die.
Dude, you can't talk about B_i like that.
:shake:

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Mon August 28, 2023 7:57 pm
by Ello Sailor
Um, wow.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Mon August 28, 2023 8:16 pm
by 96583UP
Bi_3 wrote:
96583UP wrote:hopefully he gets DQ'ed based on constitutional amendment 14 in the meantime

how would that be applied

certain states take him off the ballot?

guess none of the red states would

but maybe with a concerted effort and independent judiciary (and a pile of special interest money) in some purple states, we can rig the election to exclude him enforce the constitution to ensure only candidates who qualify are on the ballot

How is this possible without a conviction on those charges? Is he even charged with insurrection?
well, according to the two conservative legal scholars that published the argument, conviction is not necessary, just that you engaged in, or gave aid or comfort to those enemies
The clause states that "no person shall be a senator or representative in Congress, or elector of president and vice president, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any state, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any state legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any state, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof."
so my guess is that, since Trump made it a habit of publicly declaring things that appear to be providing support or comfort to the insurrectionists, that some law-loving Americans will go to a court in a given state and say: 'hey, look at this part of the 14th amendment, and look at all these tweets' and try to get him DQ'ed in that state

i think

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Mon August 28, 2023 8:38 pm
by B
96583UP wrote:
The clause states that "no person shall be a senator or representative in Congress, or elector of president and vice president, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any state, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any state legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any state, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof."
so my guess is that, since Trump made it a habit of publicly declaring things that appear to be providing support or comfort to the insurrectionists, that some law-loving Americans will go to a court in a given state and say: 'hey, look at this part of the 14th amendment, and look at all these tweets' and try to get him DQ'ed in that state

i think
If you kill someone you could be put to death, but someone still has to prove that you killed someone.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Mon August 28, 2023 8:53 pm
by 96583UP
right

but maybe a state court just needs to rule that he provided comfort to the insurrectionists based on their view of his statements and is DQ’ed from their state

without him having to have been convicted of participating in or organizing one

i dont know i am not a law-talking guy

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Mon August 28, 2023 8:55 pm
by 96583UP

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Mon August 28, 2023 9:09 pm
by Bi_3
B wrote:
96583UP wrote:
The clause states that "no person shall be a senator or representative in Congress, or elector of president and vice president, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any state, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any state legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any state, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof."
so my guess is that, since Trump made it a habit of publicly declaring things that appear to be providing support or comfort to the insurrectionists, that some law-loving Americans will go to a court in a given state and say: 'hey, look at this part of the 14th amendment, and look at all these tweets' and try to get him DQ'ed in that state

i think
If you kill someone you could be put to death, but someone still has to prove that you killed someone.

Feeling a little threatened.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Mon August 28, 2023 9:43 pm
by B
Please, avoid killing B_i. You WILL get banned from RM.