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Re: Election 2016
Posted: Tue July 26, 2016 4:07 am
by BurtReynolds
4 years of a corrupt Clinton Presidency will ensure an even worse president 4 years from now. Suck it up and do the right thing. Vote Trump. Get it over with. It will be easier for us all. Voting for Clinton is reckless.
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Tue July 26, 2016 4:08 am
by Norah
dprival78 wrote:tragabigzanda wrote:It's sad watching Bernie try to rally his supporters behind Clinton. It's in such blatant opposition to his anti-establishment platform. What's sad about it is that you know he really believe in his message. Watch him roll over for Hillary and the DNC feels like when Artax drowns in the Swamps of Sadness.
Very disappointing that he just fell in line behind queen Hill, and I'm not even a supporter. Turns his whole campaign into a waste of time..
This campaign quite literally has forced HRC to move further left in her platform. When Bernie announced his Presidency and it seemed like an impossibility that he'd come anywhere near this close, every progressive I know said it was worth him running if it pushed the policy conversation within the Democratic party further to the left. This campaign was hardly a waste of time.
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Tue July 26, 2016 4:09 am
by tragabigzanda
FUCK ICE
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Tue July 26, 2016 4:09 am
by BurtReynolds
tragabigzanda wrote:BurtReynolds wrote:4 years of a corrupt Clinton Presidency will ensure an even worse president 4 years from now. Suck it up and do the right thing. Vote Trump. Get it over with. It will be easier for us all. Voting for Clinton is reckless.
I've never felt closer to Burt. Except I'm still voting Gary Johnson.
A vote for Gary Johnson is a vote for Jill Stein.
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Tue July 26, 2016 4:09 am
by BurtReynolds
If my math is correct.
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Tue July 26, 2016 4:10 am
by Norah
BurtReynolds wrote:4 years of a corrupt Clinton Presidency will ensure an even worse president 4 years from now. Suck it up and do the right thing. Vote Trump. Get it over with. It will be easier for us all. Voting for Clinton is reckless.
It's not about the Presidency, it's about the Supreme Court. This is the most important election of my lifetime in terms of swaying SCOTUS one way or another. A Trump Presidency will give conservatives a lock on the Supreme Court for years and years to come.
So you know, if you're ok with people who think gayness can and should be cured on the Supreme Court, then by all means vote for Trump.
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Tue July 26, 2016 4:12 am
by Simple Torture
BurtReynolds wrote:tragabigzanda wrote:It's sad watching Bernie try to rally his supporters behind Clinton. It's in such blatant opposition to his anti-establishment platform. What's sad about it is that you know he really believe in his message. Watch him roll over for Hillary and the DNC feels like when Artax drowns in the Swamps of Sadness.
Kinda like watching democracy die.

Yesterday someone brought up Fire In The Sky and now this. What scars from my youth will RM bring up tomorrow?
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Tue July 26, 2016 4:12 am
by Monkey_Driven
cutuphalfdead wrote:BurtReynolds wrote:4 years of a corrupt Clinton Presidency will ensure an even worse president 4 years from now. Suck it up and do the right thing. Vote Trump. Get it over with. It will be easier for us all. Voting for Clinton is reckless.
It's not about the Presidency, it's about the Supreme Court. This is the most important election of my lifetime in terms of swaying SCOTUS one way or another. A Trump Presidency will give conservatives a lock on the Supreme Court for years and years to come.
So you know, if you're ok with people who think gayness can and should be cured on the Supreme Court, then by all means vote for Trump.
So much this. Local races and the Supreme Court are dominating my decision making process.
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Tue July 26, 2016 4:13 am
by Norah
Simple Torture wrote:BurtReynolds wrote:tragabigzanda wrote:It's sad watching Bernie try to rally his supporters behind Clinton. It's in such blatant opposition to his anti-establishment platform. What's sad about it is that you know he really believe in his message. Watch him roll over for Hillary and the DNC feels like when Artax drowns in the Swamps of Sadness.
Kinda like watching democracy die.

Yesterday someone brought up Fire In The Sky and now this. What scars from my youth will RM bring up tomorrow?
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Re: Election 2016
Posted: Tue July 26, 2016 4:13 am
by BurtReynolds
I take solace in the fact that I really don't have any say in who the next president of the United States will be.
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Tue July 26, 2016 4:15 am
by LoathedVermin72
Oh man I love this
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Tue July 26, 2016 4:15 am
by verb_to_trust
cutuphalfdead wrote:BurtReynolds wrote:4 years of a corrupt Clinton Presidency will ensure an even worse president 4 years from now. Suck it up and do the right thing. Vote Trump. Get it over with. It will be easier for us all. Voting for Clinton is reckless.
It's not about the Presidency, it's about the Supreme Court. This is the most important election of my lifetime in terms of swaying SCOTUS one way or another. A Trump Presidency will give conservatives a lock on the Supreme Court for years and years to come.
So you know, if you're ok with people who think gayness can and should be cured on the Supreme Court, then by all means vote for Trump.
Trump isn't electable. Hes not going to win. All of this is just an exercise.
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Tue July 26, 2016 4:16 am
by Jorge
BurtReynolds wrote:I take solace in the fact that I really don't have any say in who the next president of the United States will be.
Same.
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Tue July 26, 2016 4:16 am
by LoathedVermin72
verb_to_trust wrote:cutuphalfdead wrote:BurtReynolds wrote:4 years of a corrupt Clinton Presidency will ensure an even worse president 4 years from now. Suck it up and do the right thing. Vote Trump. Get it over with. It will be easier for us all. Voting for Clinton is reckless.
It's not about the Presidency, it's about the Supreme Court. This is the most important election of my lifetime in terms of swaying SCOTUS one way or another. A Trump Presidency will give conservatives a lock on the Supreme Court for years and years to come.
So you know, if you're ok with people who think gayness can and should be cured on the Supreme Court, then by all means vote for Trump.
Trump isn't electable. Hes not going to win. All of this is just an exercise.
I think the "Trump isn't electable" argument went out the window a long time ago
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Tue July 26, 2016 4:16 am
by Norah
verb_to_trust wrote:cutuphalfdead wrote:BurtReynolds wrote:4 years of a corrupt Clinton Presidency will ensure an even worse president 4 years from now. Suck it up and do the right thing. Vote Trump. Get it over with. It will be easier for us all. Voting for Clinton is reckless.
It's not about the Presidency, it's about the Supreme Court. This is the most important election of my lifetime in terms of swaying SCOTUS one way or another. A Trump Presidency will give conservatives a lock on the Supreme Court for years and years to come.
So you know, if you're ok with people who think gayness can and should be cured on the Supreme Court, then by all means vote for Trump.
Trump isn't electable. Hes not going to win. All of this is just an exercise.
You sound like Nate Silver (and myself) a year ago.
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Tue July 26, 2016 4:17 am
by BurtReynolds
LoathedVermin72 wrote:Oh man I love this

Re: Election 2016
Posted: Tue July 26, 2016 4:18 am
by BurtReynolds
cutuphalfdead wrote:verb_to_trust wrote:cutuphalfdead wrote:BurtReynolds wrote:4 years of a corrupt Clinton Presidency will ensure an even worse president 4 years from now. Suck it up and do the right thing. Vote Trump. Get it over with. It will be easier for us all. Voting for Clinton is reckless.
It's not about the Presidency, it's about the Supreme Court. This is the most important election of my lifetime in terms of swaying SCOTUS one way or another. A Trump Presidency will give conservatives a lock on the Supreme Court for years and years to come.
So you know, if you're ok with people who think gayness can and should be cured on the Supreme Court, then by all means vote for Trump.
Trump isn't electable. Hes not going to win. All of this is just an exercise.
You sound like Nate Silver (and myself) a year ago.
Nate said Trump was ahead today, so I guess he'll lose now.
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Tue July 26, 2016 4:20 am
by dprival78
cutuphalfdead wrote:dprival78 wrote:tragabigzanda wrote:It's sad watching Bernie try to rally his supporters behind Clinton. It's in such blatant opposition to his anti-establishment platform. What's sad about it is that you know he really believe in his message. Watch him roll over for Hillary and the DNC feels like when Artax drowns in the Swamps of Sadness.
Very disappointing that he just fell in line behind queen Hill, and I'm not even a supporter. Turns his whole campaign into a waste of time..
This campaign quite literally has forced HRC to move further left in her platform. When Bernie announced his Presidency and it seemed like an impossibility that he'd come anywhere near this close, every progressive I know said it was worth him running if it pushed the policy conversation within the Democratic party further to the left. This campaign was hardly a waste of time.
Why would you expect HRC to ever do the will of the Bernie crowd once she's put in power? She's the absolute epitome of what is wrong with politics.. She'll serve the needs of those that pay her lots of money - as she's always done. Why else would they pay her (or her husband) that money?
Sure, she'll say things to appease people over the next few months, and maybe even throw the progressives a bone here and there on some trivial issues during her reign. But do you honestly think Hillary Clinton, with her track record, will actually serve anyone other then the corporate and financial interests that have enriched her? She's as dirty as they come.
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Tue July 26, 2016 4:22 am
by Norah
dprival78 wrote:cutuphalfdead wrote:dprival78 wrote:tragabigzanda wrote:It's sad watching Bernie try to rally his supporters behind Clinton. It's in such blatant opposition to his anti-establishment platform. What's sad about it is that you know he really believe in his message. Watch him roll over for Hillary and the DNC feels like when Artax drowns in the Swamps of Sadness.
Very disappointing that he just fell in line behind queen Hill, and I'm not even a supporter. Turns his whole campaign into a waste of time..
This campaign quite literally has forced HRC to move further left in her platform. When Bernie announced his Presidency and it seemed like an impossibility that he'd come anywhere near this close, every progressive I know said it was worth him running if it pushed the policy conversation within the Democratic party further to the left. This campaign was hardly a waste of time.
Why would you expect HRC to ever do the will of the Bernie crowd once she's put in power? She's the absolute epitome of what is wrong with politics.. She'll serve the needs of those that pay her lots of money - as she's always done. Why else would they pay her (or her husband) that money?
Sure, she'll say things to appease people over the next few months, and maybe even throw the progressives a bone here and there on some trivial issues during her reign. But do you honestly think Hillary Clinton, with her track record, will actually serve anyone other then the corporate and financial interests that have enriched her? She's as dirty as they come.
I don't think it's an all or nothing thing. I think she'll do, or at least try to do what she can within the legislative climate, some things and won't do others.
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Tue July 26, 2016 4:25 am
by verb_to_trust
cutuphalfdead wrote:verb_to_trust wrote:cutuphalfdead wrote:BurtReynolds wrote:4 years of a corrupt Clinton Presidency will ensure an even worse president 4 years from now. Suck it up and do the right thing. Vote Trump. Get it over with. It will be easier for us all. Voting for Clinton is reckless.
It's not about the Presidency, it's about the Supreme Court. This is the most important election of my lifetime in terms of swaying SCOTUS one way or another. A Trump Presidency will give conservatives a lock on the Supreme Court for years and years to come.
So you know, if you're ok with people who think gayness can and should be cured on the Supreme Court, then by all means vote for Trump.
Trump isn't electable. Hes not going to win. All of this is just an exercise.
You sound like Nate Silver (and myself) a year ago.
Look at a map and tell me where Trump's electoral votes are going to come from.