Red Mosquito

Chris_H_2 wrote:

DDWJMUVW wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:I don’t believe the song is any more or less compressed than the other rock songs on Binaural, and the public Dynamic Range Database supports this.

I also don’t find the guitars to be particularly edgy, but that’s more a matter of taste.

The one consistent criticism I’d give to the BOB mixed songs on Binaural is that there’s generally a lack of depth and width. The stereo spread is fairly crowded, and most tracks of the guitars are right at the front of your speaker, rather than set back a bit to create some depth.

"The “Unofficial” Dynamic Range Database uses a sliding scale from 1 to 20 (1 being the worst, 20 being the best) to rank the dynamic quality of each of the recordings they list. This number represents the difference between the peak decibel level on a recording and the recording’s average loudness. DRD applies the following descriptors to these ranges: 1-7=bad; 8-13=transition; and 14-20=good. Evaluation for each album on the website includes the album’s average dynamic range, the track with the weakest dynamic range, and the track with the greatest. The Unofficial DRD also provides individual dynamic range measurements for each track on the album."

Binaural scores an avg of 7. TO be fair, it appears the scale doesn't go beyond 14, which makes the explanation above a bit confusing. Nonetheless:

Grievance has the weakest range on the album (scores a 6) except for Insignificance (another great song that suffers bc of this production). Frankly, even if you don't understand dynamic range and compression, you can just hear it. The impression is flat, blunt, and really hurts some of the tracks. I know they have much more potential, but I can't hear it.

Analyzed folder: /Volumes/DATA/music/Pearl Jam/Binaural
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DR Peak RMS Filename
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DR7 -0.10 dB -7.91 dB 01 - Breakerfall.m4a
DR6 -0.10 dB -6.65 dB 02 - Gods' Dice.m4a
DR7 -0.10 dB -8.43 dB 03 - Evacuation.m4a
DR6 -0.10 dB -7.45 dB 04 - Light Years.m4a
DR7 -0.10 dB -8.96 dB 05 - Nothing as It Seems.m4a
DR7 -0.10 dB -9.24 dB 06 - Thin Air.m4a
DR6 -0.10 dB -7.18 dB 07 - Insignificance.m4a
DR7 -0.10 dB -9.41 dB 08 - Of the Girl.m4a
DR6 -0.10 dB -7.38 dB 09 - Grievance.m4a
DR7 -0.10 dB -9.00 dB 10 - Rival.m4a
DR6 -0.10 dB -8.52 dB 11 - Sleight of Hand.m4a
DR12 -1.26 dB -16.51 dB 12 - Soon Forget.m4a
DR7 -0.05 dB -10.75 dB 13 - Parting Ways _ Writers Block.m4a
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This is so hawt

stip wrote:can someone who isn't me share the album score for all their albums based on whatever website this is and its process I barely understand but am still interested in?

oopsmagoo wrote:I have it on good authority that the new album is titled "A Bit of Papa Juliett"

Coach wrote:Why I'm pumped for a new album:

1. Ed's gonna have a few moments. He always does w/ that voice and delivery.

2. Mike's gonna have at least one melt your face solo.

3. Stone and Jeff are gonna add some rhythm and funk to one track.

4. Watt is a big fan. He did great with the Earthlings.

5. At the very least, 4-6 songs will stay with me.

6. There's a tour coming in support of the record.

7. Stip and Kevin Davis song breakdowns.

8. Tour plans!

9. New music to listen to on my way to work.

10. See all above, dudes!

Buby wrote:

Coach wrote:Why I'm pumped for a new album:

1. Ed's gonna have a few moments. He always does w/ that voice and delivery.

2. Mike's gonna have at least one melt your face solo.

3. Stone and Jeff are gonna add some rhythm and funk to one track.

4. Watt is a big fan. He did great with the Earthlings.

5. At the very least, 4-6 songs will stay with me.

6. There's a tour coming in support of the record.

7. Stip and Kevin Davis song breakdowns.

8. Tour plans!

9. New music to listen to on my way to work.

10. See all above, dudes!

At the end of the day, that's the spirit Coach.

Chris_H_2 wrote:

DDWJMUVW wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:I don’t believe the song is any more or less compressed than the other rock songs on Binaural, and the public Dynamic Range Database supports this.

I also don’t find the guitars to be particularly edgy, but that’s more a matter of taste.

The one consistent criticism I’d give to the BOB mixed songs on Binaural is that there’s generally a lack of depth and width. The stereo spread is fairly crowded, and most tracks of the guitars are right at the front of your speaker, rather than set back a bit to create some depth.

"The “Unofficial” Dynamic Range Database uses a sliding scale from 1 to 20 (1 being the worst, 20 being the best) to rank the dynamic quality of each of the recordings they list. This number represents the difference between the peak decibel level on a recording and the recording’s average loudness. DRD applies the following descriptors to these ranges: 1-7=bad; 8-13=transition; and 14-20=good. Evaluation for each album on the website includes the album’s average dynamic range, the track with the weakest dynamic range, and the track with the greatest. The Unofficial DRD also provides individual dynamic range measurements for each track on the album."

Binaural scores an avg of 7. TO be fair, it appears the scale doesn't go beyond 14, which makes the explanation above a bit confusing. Nonetheless:

Grievance has the weakest range on the album (scores a 6) except for Insignificance (another great song that suffers bc of this production). Frankly, even if you don't understand dynamic range and compression, you can just hear it. The impression is flat, blunt, and really hurts some of the tracks. I know they have much more potential, but I can't hear it.

Analyzed folder: /Volumes/DATA/music/Pearl Jam/Binaural
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DR Peak RMS Filename
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DR7 -0.10 dB -7.91 dB 01 - Breakerfall.m4a
DR6 -0.10 dB -6.65 dB 02 - Gods' Dice.m4a
DR7 -0.10 dB -8.43 dB 03 - Evacuation.m4a
DR6 -0.10 dB -7.45 dB 04 - Light Years.m4a
DR7 -0.10 dB -8.96 dB 05 - Nothing as It Seems.m4a
DR7 -0.10 dB -9.24 dB 06 - Thin Air.m4a
DR6 -0.10 dB -7.18 dB 07 - Insignificance.m4a
DR7 -0.10 dB -9.41 dB 08 - Of the Girl.m4a
DR6 -0.10 dB -7.38 dB 09 - Grievance.m4a
DR7 -0.10 dB -9.00 dB 10 - Rival.m4a
DR6 -0.10 dB -8.52 dB 11 - Sleight of Hand.m4a
DR12 -1.26 dB -16.51 dB 12 - Soon Forget.m4a
DR7 -0.05 dB -10.75 dB 13 - Parting Ways _ Writers Block.m4a
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This is so hawt

Buby wrote:

Chris_H_2 wrote:

DDWJMUVW wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:I don’t believe the song is any more or less compressed than the other rock songs on Binaural, and the public Dynamic Range Database supports this.

I also don’t find the guitars to be particularly edgy, but that’s more a matter of taste.

The one consistent criticism I’d give to the BOB mixed songs on Binaural is that there’s generally a lack of depth and width. The stereo spread is fairly crowded, and most tracks of the guitars are right at the front of your speaker, rather than set back a bit to create some depth.

"The “Unofficial” Dynamic Range Database uses a sliding scale from 1 to 20 (1 being the worst, 20 being the best) to rank the dynamic quality of each of the recordings they list. This number represents the difference between the peak decibel level on a recording and the recording’s average loudness. DRD applies the following descriptors to these ranges: 1-7=bad; 8-13=transition; and 14-20=good. Evaluation for each album on the website includes the album’s average dynamic range, the track with the weakest dynamic range, and the track with the greatest. The Unofficial DRD also provides individual dynamic range measurements for each track on the album."

Binaural scores an avg of 7. TO be fair, it appears the scale doesn't go beyond 14, which makes the explanation above a bit confusing. Nonetheless:

Grievance has the weakest range on the album (scores a 6) except for Insignificance (another great song that suffers bc of this production). Frankly, even if you don't understand dynamic range and compression, you can just hear it. The impression is flat, blunt, and really hurts some of the tracks. I know they have much more potential, but I can't hear it.

Analyzed folder: /Volumes/DATA/music/Pearl Jam/Binaural
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DR Peak RMS Filename
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DR7 -0.10 dB -7.91 dB 01 - Breakerfall.m4a
DR6 -0.10 dB -6.65 dB 02 - Gods' Dice.m4a
DR7 -0.10 dB -8.43 dB 03 - Evacuation.m4a
DR6 -0.10 dB -7.45 dB 04 - Light Years.m4a
DR7 -0.10 dB -8.96 dB 05 - Nothing as It Seems.m4a
DR7 -0.10 dB -9.24 dB 06 - Thin Air.m4a
DR6 -0.10 dB -7.18 dB 07 - Insignificance.m4a
DR7 -0.10 dB -9.41 dB 08 - Of the Girl.m4a
DR6 -0.10 dB -7.38 dB 09 - Grievance.m4a
DR7 -0.10 dB -9.00 dB 10 - Rival.m4a
DR6 -0.10 dB -8.52 dB 11 - Sleight of Hand.m4a
DR12 -1.26 dB -16.51 dB 12 - Soon Forget.m4a
DR7 -0.05 dB -10.75 dB 13 - Parting Ways _ Writers Block.m4a
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This is so hawt

Hawt indeed.

Also, not to be a dick or anything, but the dynamic range chosen is from CD or digital source.
Here's what the vinyl dynamic range looks like:

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Analyzed: Pearl Jam / Binaural (Epic 494590 1 Europe Vinyl)

DR Peak RMS Duration Track
DR11 -0.19 dB -12.40 dB 2:19 01-Breakerfall
DR10 0.00 dB -11.11 dB 2:25 02-Gods' Dice
DR11 -0.01 dB -12.90 dB 2:55 03-Evacuation
DR10 0.00 dB -11.84 dB 5:06 04-Light Years
DR10 -0.97 dB -13.28 dB 5:21 05-Nothing As It Seems
DR11 -0.03 dB -13.59 dB 3:31 06-Thin Air
DR10 0.00 dB -11.47 dB 4:27 07-Insignificance
DR11 -0.87 dB -14.14 dB 5:06 08-Of The Girl
DR11 0.00 dB -11.93 dB 3:13 09-Grievance
DR10 -0.49 dB -13.76 dB 3:38 10-Rival
DR09 -0.36 dB -13.12 dB 4:46 11-Sleight Of Hand
DR12 -4.91 dB -21.04 dB 1:46 12-Soon Forget
DR11 -0.07 dB -15.08 dB 7:14 13-Parting Ways

Number of tracks: 13 Official DR value: DR11
Sample rate: 96000 Hz
Channels: 2
Bits per sample: 24
Bitrate: 1830 kbps
Codec: FLAC

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I'd love to know what the Yield 25th VMP DR numbers look like, but it's not listed.
Also looks like Vitalogy has the highest DR than any other PJ studio album on there.

tragabigzanda wrote:

Buby wrote:

Chris_H_2 wrote:

DDWJMUVW wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:I don’t believe the song is any more or less compressed than the other rock songs on Binaural, and the public Dynamic Range Database supports this.

I also don’t find the guitars to be particularly edgy, but that’s more a matter of taste.

The one consistent criticism I’d give to the BOB mixed songs on Binaural is that there’s generally a lack of depth and width. The stereo spread is fairly crowded, and most tracks of the guitars are right at the front of your speaker, rather than set back a bit to create some depth.

"The “Unofficial” Dynamic Range Database uses a sliding scale from 1 to 20 (1 being the worst, 20 being the best) to rank the dynamic quality of each of the recordings they list. This number represents the difference between the peak decibel level on a recording and the recording’s average loudness. DRD applies the following descriptors to these ranges: 1-7=bad; 8-13=transition; and 14-20=good. Evaluation for each album on the website includes the album’s average dynamic range, the track with the weakest dynamic range, and the track with the greatest. The Unofficial DRD also provides individual dynamic range measurements for each track on the album."

Binaural scores an avg of 7. TO be fair, it appears the scale doesn't go beyond 14, which makes the explanation above a bit confusing. Nonetheless:

Grievance has the weakest range on the album (scores a 6) except for Insignificance (another great song that suffers bc of this production). Frankly, even if you don't understand dynamic range and compression, you can just hear it. The impression is flat, blunt, and really hurts some of the tracks. I know they have much more potential, but I can't hear it.

Analyzed folder: /Volumes/DATA/music/Pearl Jam/Binaural
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DR Peak RMS Filename
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DR7 -0.10 dB -7.91 dB 01 - Breakerfall.m4a
DR6 -0.10 dB -6.65 dB 02 - Gods' Dice.m4a
DR7 -0.10 dB -8.43 dB 03 - Evacuation.m4a
DR6 -0.10 dB -7.45 dB 04 - Light Years.m4a
DR7 -0.10 dB -8.96 dB 05 - Nothing as It Seems.m4a
DR7 -0.10 dB -9.24 dB 06 - Thin Air.m4a
DR6 -0.10 dB -7.18 dB 07 - Insignificance.m4a
DR7 -0.10 dB -9.41 dB 08 - Of the Girl.m4a
DR6 -0.10 dB -7.38 dB 09 - Grievance.m4a
DR7 -0.10 dB -9.00 dB 10 - Rival.m4a
DR6 -0.10 dB -8.52 dB 11 - Sleight of Hand.m4a
DR12 -1.26 dB -16.51 dB 12 - Soon Forget.m4a
DR7 -0.05 dB -10.75 dB 13 - Parting Ways _ Writers Block.m4a
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This is so hawt

Hawt indeed.

Also, not to be a dick or anything, but the dynamic range chosen is from CD or digital source.
Here's what the vinyl dynamic range looks like:

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Analyzed: Pearl Jam / Binaural (Epic 494590 1 Europe Vinyl)

DR Peak RMS Duration Track
DR11 -0.19 dB -12.40 dB 2:19 01-Breakerfall
DR10 0.00 dB -11.11 dB 2:25 02-Gods' Dice
DR11 -0.01 dB -12.90 dB 2:55 03-Evacuation
DR10 0.00 dB -11.84 dB 5:06 04-Light Years
DR10 -0.97 dB -13.28 dB 5:21 05-Nothing As It Seems
DR11 -0.03 dB -13.59 dB 3:31 06-Thin Air
DR10 0.00 dB -11.47 dB 4:27 07-Insignificance
DR11 -0.87 dB -14.14 dB 5:06 08-Of The Girl
DR11 0.00 dB -11.93 dB 3:13 09-Grievance
DR10 -0.49 dB -13.76 dB 3:38 10-Rival
DR09 -0.36 dB -13.12 dB 4:46 11-Sleight Of Hand
DR12 -4.91 dB -21.04 dB 1:46 12-Soon Forget
DR11 -0.07 dB -15.08 dB 7:14 13-Parting Ways

Number of tracks: 13 Official DR value: DR11
Sample rate: 96000 Hz
Channels: 2
Bits per sample: 24
Bitrate: 1830 kbps
Codec: FLAC

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I'd love to know what the Yield 25th VMP DR numbers look like, but it's not listed.
Also looks like Vitalogy has the highest DR than any other PJ studio album on there.

The vinyl ratings are notoriously suspect, as they are all sourced from individual users, and it's really difficult to control for their measurement (e.g., are they measuring the silence in the run-out groove, between songs, etc...And have they even properly calibrated their cartridge and phono stage? ). It's my suggestion that you take vinyl DR ratings with a big grain of salt.

Buby wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:

Buby wrote:

Chris_H_2 wrote:

DDWJMUVW wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:I don’t believe the song is any more or less compressed than the other rock songs on Binaural, and the public Dynamic Range Database supports this.

I also don’t find the guitars to be particularly edgy, but that’s more a matter of taste.

The one consistent criticism I’d give to the BOB mixed songs on Binaural is that there’s generally a lack of depth and width. The stereo spread is fairly crowded, and most tracks of the guitars are right at the front of your speaker, rather than set back a bit to create some depth.

"The “Unofficial” Dynamic Range Database uses a sliding scale from 1 to 20 (1 being the worst, 20 being the best) to rank the dynamic quality of each of the recordings they list. This number represents the difference between the peak decibel level on a recording and the recording’s average loudness. DRD applies the following descriptors to these ranges: 1-7=bad; 8-13=transition; and 14-20=good. Evaluation for each album on the website includes the album’s average dynamic range, the track with the weakest dynamic range, and the track with the greatest. The Unofficial DRD also provides individual dynamic range measurements for each track on the album."

Binaural scores an avg of 7. TO be fair, it appears the scale doesn't go beyond 14, which makes the explanation above a bit confusing. Nonetheless:

Grievance has the weakest range on the album (scores a 6) except for Insignificance (another great song that suffers bc of this production). Frankly, even if you don't understand dynamic range and compression, you can just hear it. The impression is flat, blunt, and really hurts some of the tracks. I know they have much more potential, but I can't hear it.

Analyzed folder: /Volumes/DATA/music/Pearl Jam/Binaural
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DR Peak RMS Filename
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DR7 -0.10 dB -7.91 dB 01 - Breakerfall.m4a
DR6 -0.10 dB -6.65 dB 02 - Gods' Dice.m4a
DR7 -0.10 dB -8.43 dB 03 - Evacuation.m4a
DR6 -0.10 dB -7.45 dB 04 - Light Years.m4a
DR7 -0.10 dB -8.96 dB 05 - Nothing as It Seems.m4a
DR7 -0.10 dB -9.24 dB 06 - Thin Air.m4a
DR6 -0.10 dB -7.18 dB 07 - Insignificance.m4a
DR7 -0.10 dB -9.41 dB 08 - Of the Girl.m4a
DR6 -0.10 dB -7.38 dB 09 - Grievance.m4a
DR7 -0.10 dB -9.00 dB 10 - Rival.m4a
DR6 -0.10 dB -8.52 dB 11 - Sleight of Hand.m4a
DR12 -1.26 dB -16.51 dB 12 - Soon Forget.m4a
DR7 -0.05 dB -10.75 dB 13 - Parting Ways _ Writers Block.m4a
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This is so hawt

Hawt indeed.

Also, not to be a dick or anything, but the dynamic range chosen is from CD or digital source.
Here's what the vinyl dynamic range looks like:

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Analyzed: Pearl Jam / Binaural (Epic 494590 1 Europe Vinyl)

DR Peak RMS Duration Track
DR11 -0.19 dB -12.40 dB 2:19 01-Breakerfall
DR10 0.00 dB -11.11 dB 2:25 02-Gods' Dice
DR11 -0.01 dB -12.90 dB 2:55 03-Evacuation
DR10 0.00 dB -11.84 dB 5:06 04-Light Years
DR10 -0.97 dB -13.28 dB 5:21 05-Nothing As It Seems
DR11 -0.03 dB -13.59 dB 3:31 06-Thin Air
DR10 0.00 dB -11.47 dB 4:27 07-Insignificance
DR11 -0.87 dB -14.14 dB 5:06 08-Of The Girl
DR11 0.00 dB -11.93 dB 3:13 09-Grievance
DR10 -0.49 dB -13.76 dB 3:38 10-Rival
DR09 -0.36 dB -13.12 dB 4:46 11-Sleight Of Hand
DR12 -4.91 dB -21.04 dB 1:46 12-Soon Forget
DR11 -0.07 dB -15.08 dB 7:14 13-Parting Ways

Number of tracks: 13 Official DR value: DR11
Sample rate: 96000 Hz
Channels: 2
Bits per sample: 24
Bitrate: 1830 kbps
Codec: FLAC

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I'd love to know what the Yield 25th VMP DR numbers look like, but it's not listed.
Also looks like Vitalogy has the highest DR than any other PJ studio album on there.

The vinyl ratings are notoriously suspect, as they are all sourced from individual users, and it's really difficult to control for their measurement (e.g., are they measuring the silence in the run-out groove, between songs, etc...And have they even properly calibrated their cartridge and phono stage? ). It's my suggestion that you take vinyl DR ratings with a big grain of salt.

Granted.
Would still love to know how Yield 25th looks like side by side.

DDWJMUVW wrote:

Buby wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:

Buby wrote:

Chris_H_2 wrote:

DDWJMUVW wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:I don’t believe the song is any more or less compressed than the other rock songs on Binaural, and the public Dynamic Range Database supports this.

I also don’t find the guitars to be particularly edgy, but that’s more a matter of taste.

The one consistent criticism I’d give to the BOB mixed songs on Binaural is that there’s generally a lack of depth and width. The stereo spread is fairly crowded, and most tracks of the guitars are right at the front of your speaker, rather than set back a bit to create some depth.

"The “Unofficial” Dynamic Range Database uses a sliding scale from 1 to 20 (1 being the worst, 20 being the best) to rank the dynamic quality of each of the recordings they list. This number represents the difference between the peak decibel level on a recording and the recording’s average loudness. DRD applies the following descriptors to these ranges: 1-7=bad; 8-13=transition; and 14-20=good. Evaluation for each album on the website includes the album’s average dynamic range, the track with the weakest dynamic range, and the track with the greatest. The Unofficial DRD also provides individual dynamic range measurements for each track on the album."

Binaural scores an avg of 7. TO be fair, it appears the scale doesn't go beyond 14, which makes the explanation above a bit confusing. Nonetheless:

Grievance has the weakest range on the album (scores a 6) except for Insignificance (another great song that suffers bc of this production). Frankly, even if you don't understand dynamic range and compression, you can just hear it. The impression is flat, blunt, and really hurts some of the tracks. I know they have much more potential, but I can't hear it.

Analyzed folder: /Volumes/DATA/music/Pearl Jam/Binaural
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DR Peak RMS Filename
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DR7 -0.10 dB -7.91 dB 01 - Breakerfall.m4a
DR6 -0.10 dB -6.65 dB 02 - Gods' Dice.m4a
DR7 -0.10 dB -8.43 dB 03 - Evacuation.m4a
DR6 -0.10 dB -7.45 dB 04 - Light Years.m4a
DR7 -0.10 dB -8.96 dB 05 - Nothing as It Seems.m4a
DR7 -0.10 dB -9.24 dB 06 - Thin Air.m4a
DR6 -0.10 dB -7.18 dB 07 - Insignificance.m4a
DR7 -0.10 dB -9.41 dB 08 - Of the Girl.m4a
DR6 -0.10 dB -7.38 dB 09 - Grievance.m4a
DR7 -0.10 dB -9.00 dB 10 - Rival.m4a
DR6 -0.10 dB -8.52 dB 11 - Sleight of Hand.m4a
DR12 -1.26 dB -16.51 dB 12 - Soon Forget.m4a
DR7 -0.05 dB -10.75 dB 13 - Parting Ways _ Writers Block.m4a
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This is so hawt

Hawt indeed.

Also, not to be a dick or anything, but the dynamic range chosen is from CD or digital source.
Here's what the vinyl dynamic range looks like:

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Analyzed: Pearl Jam / Binaural (Epic 494590 1 Europe Vinyl)

DR Peak RMS Duration Track
DR11 -0.19 dB -12.40 dB 2:19 01-Breakerfall
DR10 0.00 dB -11.11 dB 2:25 02-Gods' Dice
DR11 -0.01 dB -12.90 dB 2:55 03-Evacuation
DR10 0.00 dB -11.84 dB 5:06 04-Light Years
DR10 -0.97 dB -13.28 dB 5:21 05-Nothing As It Seems
DR11 -0.03 dB -13.59 dB 3:31 06-Thin Air
DR10 0.00 dB -11.47 dB 4:27 07-Insignificance
DR11 -0.87 dB -14.14 dB 5:06 08-Of The Girl
DR11 0.00 dB -11.93 dB 3:13 09-Grievance
DR10 -0.49 dB -13.76 dB 3:38 10-Rival
DR09 -0.36 dB -13.12 dB 4:46 11-Sleight Of Hand
DR12 -4.91 dB -21.04 dB 1:46 12-Soon Forget
DR11 -0.07 dB -15.08 dB 7:14 13-Parting Ways

Number of tracks: 13 Official DR value: DR11
Sample rate: 96000 Hz
Channels: 2
Bits per sample: 24
Bitrate: 1830 kbps
Codec: FLAC

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

I'd love to know what the Yield 25th VMP DR numbers look like, but it's not listed.
Also looks like Vitalogy has the highest DR than any other PJ studio album on there.

The vinyl ratings are notoriously suspect, as they are all sourced from individual users, and it's really difficult to control for their measurement (e.g., are they measuring the silence in the run-out groove, between songs, etc...And have they even properly calibrated their cartridge and phono stage? ). It's my suggestion that you take vinyl DR ratings with a big grain of salt.

Granted.
Would still love to know how Yield 25th looks like side by side.

Look what I started. Listened to the album version 4/5 times this am and Ed’s vocal delivery is actually quite strong. The drums sound so can-ny though. Stone’s robotic synth verse riff makes me want to vomit and destroys the raw groove he has on the live versions. . It takes a special asshole to ruin such good writing. Nice going Chad with a T.

tragabigzanda wrote:

DDWJMUVW wrote:

Buby wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:

Buby wrote:

Chris_H_2 wrote:

DDWJMUVW wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:I don’t believe the song is any more or less compressed than the other rock songs on Binaural, and the public Dynamic Range Database supports this.

I also don’t find the guitars to be particularly edgy, but that’s more a matter of taste.

The one consistent criticism I’d give to the BOB mixed songs on Binaural is that there’s generally a lack of depth and width. The stereo spread is fairly crowded, and most tracks of the guitars are right at the front of your speaker, rather than set back a bit to create some depth.

"The “Unofficial” Dynamic Range Database uses a sliding scale from 1 to 20 (1 being the worst, 20 being the best) to rank the dynamic quality of each of the recordings they list. This number represents the difference between the peak decibel level on a recording and the recording’s average loudness. DRD applies the following descriptors to these ranges: 1-7=bad; 8-13=transition; and 14-20=good. Evaluation for each album on the website includes the album’s average dynamic range, the track with the weakest dynamic range, and the track with the greatest. The Unofficial DRD also provides individual dynamic range measurements for each track on the album."

Binaural scores an avg of 7. TO be fair, it appears the scale doesn't go beyond 14, which makes the explanation above a bit confusing. Nonetheless:

Grievance has the weakest range on the album (scores a 6) except for Insignificance (another great song that suffers bc of this production). Frankly, even if you don't understand dynamic range and compression, you can just hear it. The impression is flat, blunt, and really hurts some of the tracks. I know they have much more potential, but I can't hear it.

Analyzed folder: /Volumes/DATA/music/Pearl Jam/Binaural
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DR Peak RMS Filename
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DR7 -0.10 dB -7.91 dB 01 - Breakerfall.m4a
DR6 -0.10 dB -6.65 dB 02 - Gods' Dice.m4a
DR7 -0.10 dB -8.43 dB 03 - Evacuation.m4a
DR6 -0.10 dB -7.45 dB 04 - Light Years.m4a
DR7 -0.10 dB -8.96 dB 05 - Nothing as It Seems.m4a
DR7 -0.10 dB -9.24 dB 06 - Thin Air.m4a
DR6 -0.10 dB -7.18 dB 07 - Insignificance.m4a
DR7 -0.10 dB -9.41 dB 08 - Of the Girl.m4a
DR6 -0.10 dB -7.38 dB 09 - Grievance.m4a
DR7 -0.10 dB -9.00 dB 10 - Rival.m4a
DR6 -0.10 dB -8.52 dB 11 - Sleight of Hand.m4a
DR12 -1.26 dB -16.51 dB 12 - Soon Forget.m4a
DR7 -0.05 dB -10.75 dB 13 - Parting Ways _ Writers Block.m4a
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This is so hawt

Hawt indeed.

Also, not to be a dick or anything, but the dynamic range chosen is from CD or digital source.
Here's what the vinyl dynamic range looks like:

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Analyzed: Pearl Jam / Binaural (Epic 494590 1 Europe Vinyl)

DR Peak RMS Duration Track
DR11 -0.19 dB -12.40 dB 2:19 01-Breakerfall
DR10 0.00 dB -11.11 dB 2:25 02-Gods' Dice
DR11 -0.01 dB -12.90 dB 2:55 03-Evacuation
DR10 0.00 dB -11.84 dB 5:06 04-Light Years
DR10 -0.97 dB -13.28 dB 5:21 05-Nothing As It Seems
DR11 -0.03 dB -13.59 dB 3:31 06-Thin Air
DR10 0.00 dB -11.47 dB 4:27 07-Insignificance
DR11 -0.87 dB -14.14 dB 5:06 08-Of The Girl
DR11 0.00 dB -11.93 dB 3:13 09-Grievance
DR10 -0.49 dB -13.76 dB 3:38 10-Rival
DR09 -0.36 dB -13.12 dB 4:46 11-Sleight Of Hand
DR12 -4.91 dB -21.04 dB 1:46 12-Soon Forget
DR11 -0.07 dB -15.08 dB 7:14 13-Parting Ways

Number of tracks: 13 Official DR value: DR11
Sample rate: 96000 Hz
Channels: 2
Bits per sample: 24
Bitrate: 1830 kbps
Codec: FLAC

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I'd love to know what the Yield 25th VMP DR numbers look like, but it's not listed.
Also looks like Vitalogy has the highest DR than any other PJ studio album on there.

The vinyl ratings are notoriously suspect, as they are all sourced from individual users, and it's really difficult to control for their measurement (e.g., are they measuring the silence in the run-out groove, between songs, etc...And have they even properly calibrated their cartridge and phono stage? ). It's my suggestion that you take vinyl DR ratings with a big grain of salt.

Granted.
Would still love to know how Yield 25th looks like side by side.

Look what I started. Listened to the album version 4/5 times this am and Ed’s vocal delivery is actually quite strong. The drums sound so can-ny though. Stone’s robotic synth verse riff makes me want to vomit and destroys the raw groove he has on the live versions. . It takes a special asshole to ruin such good writing. Nice going Chad with a T.

BOB mixed Grievance.

DDWJMUVW wrote:I see that he did in fact mix after Blake’s version did not satisfy the band. How awful must it have been that BoB’s version was considered “better”?