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Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Wed June 21, 2023 1:23 pm
by McParadigm
Alito did not report the 2008 fishing trip on his annual financial disclosures. By failing to disclose the private jet flight Singer provided, Alito appears to have violated a federal law that requires justices to disclose most gifts, according to ethics law experts.

Experts said they could not identify an instance of a justice ruling on a case after receiving an expensive gift paid for by one of the parties.

“If you were good friends, what were you doing ruling on his case?” said Charles Geyh, an Indiana University law professor and leading expert on recusals. “And if you weren’t good friends, what were you doing accepting this?” referring to the flight on the private jet.
You don’t have to think this particular incident influenced a vote to recognize that this pattern of secretive gift-taking by Supreme Court justices is an open avenue that corruption can and will travel through…unless it is addressed.

Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Wed June 21, 2023 5:43 pm
by elliseamos
Bi_3 wrote:

So, in 2007 the court rejected a hedge's fund's complaint. In 2008 the owner took him on a trip. In 2009 it again rejected his complaints. Again in 2010 it turned them down. Then, 6 years after that trip, it finally took one of eight complaints and decided in their favor (7-1, with Kennedy, Kagan, and Breyer joining)? And what is this evidence of?
Now imagine he'd recused himself...

Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Thu June 22, 2023 12:23 am
by 96583UP
imagine if these were some of the liberal justices who took flights with george soros

the right wing media would probably be whipping up the maga-ites to storm government buildings with bats

pawns

Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Thu June 22, 2023 12:23 am
by 96583UP
i hate those theoretical people in that theoretical scenario

so much

Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Thu June 22, 2023 12:23 am
by 96583UP
but i also would not be cool with them taking those flights

Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Thu June 22, 2023 12:24 am
by 96583UP
and now have a kindred linkage to those theoretical people whom i hate

i have some soul-searching to do now

Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Thu June 22, 2023 11:01 am
by Bi_3
McParadigm wrote:
Alito did not report the 2008 fishing trip on his annual financial disclosures. By failing to disclose the private jet flight Singer provided, Alito appears to have violated a federal law that requires justices to disclose most gifts, according to ethics law experts.

Experts said they could not identify an instance of a justice ruling on a case after receiving an expensive gift paid for by one of the parties.

“If you were good friends, what were you doing ruling on his case?” said Charles Geyh, an Indiana University law professor and leading expert on recusals. “And if you weren’t good friends, what were you doing accepting this?” referring to the flight on the private jet.
You don’t have to think this particular incident influenced a vote to recognize that this pattern of secretive gift-taking by Supreme Court justices is an open avenue that corruption can and will travel through…unless it is addressed.
I agree that there is a level of Urkel-ish "did I do that?" attitude when it comes to these paperwork errors, but I recall the court tightened up the rules earlier this year to reduce the confusion over reporting.

Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Thu June 22, 2023 8:57 pm
by elliseamos

Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Mon June 26, 2023 7:51 pm
by 4/5
The Supreme Court accepted a case that will let it decide whether there can be a wealth tax. IE, can Congress tax unrealized capital gains?

Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Mon June 26, 2023 9:25 pm
by Bi_3
4/5 wrote:The Supreme Court accepted a case that will let it decide whether there can be a wealth tax. IE, can Congress tax unrealized capital gains?
I thought this was already decided multiple times.

Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Mon June 26, 2023 10:02 pm
by 4/5
Bi_3 wrote:
4/5 wrote:The Supreme Court accepted a case that will let it decide whether there can be a wealth tax. IE, can Congress tax unrealized capital gains?
I thought this was already decided multiple times.
Not that I know of. In this particular case lower courts have twice decided that Congress can tax unrealized foreign capital gains.

Obviously the Court doesn't have to decide anything about unrealized domestic gains but this gives them a chance to preemptively state that a wealth tax is unconstitutional if they want.

Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Tue June 27, 2023 2:09 pm
by Green Habit
Wow, Roberts (thankfully!) flipped on the independent state legislature theory, and also got Kavanaugh and Barrett to go along with his new position.

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/2 ... 1_3f14.pdf

Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Tue June 27, 2023 3:30 pm
by elliseamos
Translation: NC gerrymandered maps need to be redrawn?

Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Tue June 27, 2023 6:31 pm
by 4/5
elliseamos wrote:Translation: NC gerrymandered maps need to be redrawn?
More broadly, states can't draw maps and pass laws shielding said maps from judicial review.

Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Tue June 27, 2023 9:59 pm
by elliseamos
4/5 wrote:
elliseamos wrote:Translation: NC gerrymandered maps need to be redrawn?
More broadly, states can't draw maps and pass laws shielding said maps from judicial review.
Great!

But voting rights are totally fair game?

Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Thu June 29, 2023 1:54 pm
by elliseamos
Student Loan ruling in 5... 4... 3... 2...

Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Thu June 29, 2023 1:59 pm
by elliseamos
nope.

Affirmative Action is gone:

"The court holds that Harvard and UNC's admissions programs violate the equal protection clause of the 14th Amendment."

Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Thu June 29, 2023 2:23 pm
by 96583UP
such a complex topic

Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Thu June 29, 2023 2:59 pm
by elliseamos
96583UP wrote:such a complex topic
Schools will just say the decision to accept one kid over another was based on another reason... it's kind of silly that it had to be fought over.

Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Thu June 29, 2023 3:23 pm
by tragabigzanda
FUCK ICE