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Joe Flacco's contract

verb_to_trust wrote:Joe Flacco's contract

I guess he wasn't worried about winning another Superbowl how do they pay anyone else?

He had a great postseason but I am still not convinced he is going to be a year in and year out elite QB.

I can't believe he is the highest paid player in the league.

Meh, contracts in sports merely reflect the monetary situation of the team and the league at the time they are up for a contract.

They just won the SB and wanted this to get done quickly.

remember when the talk was that they'd part ways with Flacco at the end of the season?

I bet Flacco doesn't earn half the full amount of his deal. NFL contracts are weird like that.

joe flacco will make more in his lifetime than everyone from his hometown, combined.

Mecca wrote:remember when the talk was that they'd part ways with Flacco at the end of the season?

yeah that was stupid. like cuban saying the lakers should get rid of kobe.

Elam is one of those love/hate guys, exactly like both of you describe. He's a high energy guy and makes huge hits and big plays. But he takes way too many personal foul penalties. He's that guy that will get a 15 yard penalty one play and then make up for it by forcing a fumble the next.

I'd still gladly take him, though.

4/5 wrote:Elam is one of those love/hate guys, exactly like both of you describe. He's a high energy guy and makes huge hits and big plays. But he takes way too many personal foul penalties. He's that guy that will get a 15 yard penalty one play and then make up for it by forcing a fumble the next.

I'd still gladly take him, though.

How's his tackling, though? It seems that when a guy is known as a huge hitter, it also means that he's a poor tackler that doesn't wrap up and lets his guy go when he misses. I can handle a 15 yard penalty once in a blue moon but the real killers are the 20+ yard gains that happen due to a missed tackle.

I've never seen Jason Elam tackle anyone in my life.

Green Habit wrote:

4/5 wrote:Elam is one of those love/hate guys, exactly like both of you describe. He's a high energy guy and makes huge hits and big plays. But he takes way too many personal foul penalties. He's that guy that will get a 15 yard penalty one play and then make up for it by forcing a fumble the next.

I'd still gladly take him, though.

How's his tackling, though? It seems that when a guy is known as a huge hitter, it also means that he's a poor tackler that doesn't wrap up and lets his guy go when he misses. I can handle a 15 yard penalty once in a blue moon but the real killers are the 20+ yard gains that happen due to a missed tackle.

I remember him being a lot more efficient in that area than say.... Baccari Rambo who would be a similar type of player but not as good as Elam.

I think Elam's value as a playmaker outweighs the negative of being a poor tackler. That said, with the new rules being what they are I think tackling will become a premium over the next decade in the NFL.

E.H. Ruddock wrote:I've never seen Jason Elam tackle anyone in my life.

+1 check the Brookwood High School records.

E.H. Ruddock wrote:I've never seen Jason Elam tackle anyone in my life.

It's a shame he never had a tackle like Todd Sauerbrun did in that playoff game against the Patriots.

Electromatic wrote:

Green Habit wrote:

4/5 wrote:Elam is one of those love/hate guys, exactly like both of you describe. He's a high energy guy and makes huge hits and big plays. But he takes way too many personal foul penalties. He's that guy that will get a 15 yard penalty one play and then make up for it by forcing a fumble the next.

I'd still gladly take him, though.

How's his tackling, though? It seems that when a guy is known as a huge hitter, it also means that he's a poor tackler that doesn't wrap up and lets his guy go when he misses. I can handle a 15 yard penalty once in a blue moon but the real killers are the 20+ yard gains that happen due to a missed tackle.

I remember him being a lot more efficient in that area than say.... Baccari Rambo who would be a similar type of player but not as good as Elam.

I think Elam's value as a playmaker outweighs the negative of being a poor tackler. That said, with the new rules being what they are I think tackling will become a premium over the next decade in the NFL.

I don't think he's a Donte Whitner who can deliver the knockout hit but can't wrap up to save his life. I remember him being pretty consistent. The major frustration was the penalties, which were for excessive celebration about as often as they were for the hit itself.

4/5 wrote:I don't think he's a Donte Whitner who can deliver the knockout hit but can't wrap up to save his life. I remember him being pretty consistent. The major frustration was the penalties, which were for excessive celebration about as often as they were for the hit itself.

OK, then that's not a big problem for me in the long run. Once he commits a couple of those stupid penalties his rookie season, any coach worth a damn will chew him out, make him run laps, etc.

EDIT: Also, the NCAA's excessive celebration rules are draconian bullshit, so that's another reason for me to give Elam leeway in that department.

So Dwayne Bowe finally agreed to a long term deal with the Chiefs. Like I've said before, fans like d,t should keep on being a bit more optimistic with Kansas City. I know that I'm more nervous that the Broncos might actually have some decent competition in the division next year.

Green Habit wrote:EDIT: Also, the NCAA's excessive celebration rules are draconian bullshit, so that's another reason for me to give Elam leeway in that department.

yes! completely with you on this one.

dkfan9 wrote:

Green Habit wrote:EDIT: Also, the NCAA's excessive celebration rules are draconian bullshit, so that's another reason for me to give Elam leeway in that department.

yes! completely with you on this one.

I found it fitting that the first player that they took a TD away from for celebrating was a punter.