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Re: Cops Are The Worst
Posted: Tue June 16, 2020 7:12 pm
by Strat
tree_ wrote:Strat wrote:tree_ wrote:tree_ wrote:elliseamos wrote:But it's a perceived and self-fulfilling experience. Did you read the washington post rebuttal I posted in full at your request?
Being a cop is difficult. If done correctly, you are prepared for the worst, but don't misjudge the situation.
Yes. It was compelling. I'm going to re-read it and get more facts.
There is the idea of the "chicken or the egg" that's interesting to think about. It's hard to know which comes first.
If you knew a goddamn thing about racism in this country you would understand this is not a difficult question. For fucks sake, tree.
Please educate me.
We've all fucking tried but you are here to troll so....no.
Re: Cops Are The Worst
Posted: Tue June 16, 2020 7:12 pm
by tree_
Strat wrote:tree_ wrote:Strat wrote:tree_ wrote:tree_ wrote:elliseamos wrote:But it's a perceived and self-fulfilling experience. Did you read the washington post rebuttal I posted in full at your request?
Being a cop is difficult. If done correctly, you are prepared for the worst, but don't misjudge the situation.
Yes. It was compelling. I'm going to re-read it and get more facts.
There is the idea of the "chicken or the egg" that's interesting to think about. It's hard to know which comes first.
If you knew a goddamn thing about racism in this country you would understand this is not a difficult question. For fucks sake, tree.
Please educate me.
We've all fucking tried but you are here to troll so....no.
No.. again, not an argument.
Re: Cops Are The Worst
Posted: Tue June 16, 2020 7:14 pm
by tree_
Re: Cops Are The Worst
Posted: Tue June 16, 2020 7:28 pm
by wease
Peeps wrote:can we just ban tree
he doesnt even add a minuscule of formative thought to any thread he posts in
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Re: Cops Are The Worst
Posted: Tue June 16, 2020 7:32 pm
by Mickey
Mickey wrote:I'd never foe'd someone before but I'm a big fan of this feature now.
Re: Cops Are The Worst
Posted: Tue June 16, 2020 7:38 pm
by B
Re: Cops Are The Worst
Posted: Tue June 16, 2020 7:38 pm
by wease
E.H. Ruddock wrote:Yeah so you didn't have an open mind at all. You're just a racist fucking troll
SOMEbody's been telling you this all along!!!
Re: Cops Are The Worst
Posted: Tue June 16, 2020 7:51 pm
by tree_
Let me just clear this up. If white people and black people switched roles in the history of America, I have no doubt white people would be in the same socioeconomic situation blacks are in now, if not worse. Probably worse, because with sheer talent, black people broke through in music, for example, in a way I can't imagine white people would have, faced with insurmountable opposition. I don't think white people are inherently better than any other race. That's silly. That would actually be racism. There is history of slavery and racism in America that lead the black community to where they are now. The question is, are the police holding them down today? When it comes to the chicken or the egg idea, are police responsible for keeping the black community relatively poor and in prisons? It's hard to answer that question. I'm sure it's not completely obvious, like so many of you are pretending today.
Re: Cops Are The Worst
Posted: Tue June 16, 2020 7:54 pm
by B
Probably worse, because with sheer talent, black people broke through in music, for example, in a way I can't imagine white people would have, faced with insurmountable opposition.
It's funny that within your defense of your racist opinions, you introduce entirely new racist concepts.
Re: Cops Are The Worst
Posted: Tue June 16, 2020 7:57 pm
by tree_
B wrote:Probably worse, because with sheer talent, black people broke through in music, for example, in a way I can't imagine white people would have, faced with insurmountable opposition.
It's funny that within your defense of your racist opinions, you introduce entirely new racist concepts.
I think black people produced undeniably great music. Even when people are racists, they had to love the music. I think it's more undeniably good and influential than the music white people produced. Is this actually racist or just me being a fan?
Re: Cops Are The Worst
Posted: Tue June 16, 2020 7:58 pm
by tree_
No, I don't think we're identical culturally or genetically. But we are inherently equal and should be treated as such.
Re: Cops Are The Worst
Posted: Tue June 16, 2020 8:00 pm
by wease
tree_ wrote:B wrote:Probably worse, because with sheer talent, black people broke through in music, for example, in a way I can't imagine white people would have, faced with insurmountable opposition.
It's funny that within your defense of your racist opinions, you introduce entirely new racist concepts.
I think black people produced undeniably great music. Even when people are racists, they had to love the music. I think it's more undeniably good and influential than the music white people produced. Is this actually racist or just me being a fan?
You said yourself, "even when people are racists, they had to love the music", so obviously it's racist.
Re: Cops Are The Worst
Posted: Tue June 16, 2020 8:01 pm
by tree_
wease wrote:tree_ wrote:B wrote:Probably worse, because with sheer talent, black people broke through in music, for example, in a way I can't imagine white people would have, faced with insurmountable opposition.
It's funny that within your defense of your racist opinions, you introduce entirely new racist concepts.
I think black people produced undeniably great music. Even when people are racists, they had to love the music. I think it's more undeniably good and influential than the music white people produced. Is this actually racist or just me being a fan?
You said yourself, "even when people are racists, they had to love the music", so obviously it's racist.
What I mean is that, in a time when black people are being held down, they still managed to break through in certain fields, with sheer, undeniable talent.
Re: Cops Are The Worst
Posted: Tue June 16, 2020 8:06 pm
by Self
tree_ wrote:wease wrote:tree_ wrote:B wrote:Probably worse, because with sheer talent, black people broke through in music, for example, in a way I can't imagine white people would have, faced with insurmountable opposition.
It's funny that within your defense of your racist opinions, you introduce entirely new racist concepts.
I think black people produced undeniably great music. Even when people are racists, they had to love the music. I think it's more undeniably good and influential than the music white people produced. Is this actually racist or just me being a fan?
You said yourself, "even when people are racists, they had to love the music", so obviously it's racist.
What I mean is that, in a time when black people are being held down, they still managed to break through in certain fields, with sheer, undeniable talent.
I think B's point was that you said that white people couldn't have done the same thing...because they're white. You're ascribing an inequality based on race.
Re: Cops Are The Worst
Posted: Tue June 16, 2020 8:08 pm
by B
Self wrote:tree_ wrote:wease wrote:tree_ wrote:B wrote:Probably worse, because with sheer talent, black people broke through in music, for example, in a way I can't imagine white people would have, faced with insurmountable opposition.
It's funny that within your defense of your racist opinions, you introduce entirely new racist concepts.
I think black people produced undeniably great music. Even when people are racists, they had to love the music. I think it's more undeniably good and influential than the music white people produced. Is this actually racist or just me being a fan?
You said yourself, "even when people are racists, they had to love the music", so obviously it's racist.
What I mean is that, in a time when black people are being held down, they still managed to break through in certain fields, with sheer, undeniable talent.
I think B's point was that you said that white people couldn't have done the same thing...because they're white. You're ascribing an inequality based on race.
Maybe he'd be smart enough to figure it out if he was Asian.
Re: Cops Are The Worst
Posted: Tue June 16, 2020 8:08 pm
by wease
B wrote:Self wrote:tree_ wrote:wease wrote:tree_ wrote:B wrote:Probably worse, because with sheer talent, black people broke through in music, for example, in a way I can't imagine white people would have, faced with insurmountable opposition.
It's funny that within your defense of your racist opinions, you introduce entirely new racist concepts.
I think black people produced undeniably great music. Even when people are racists, they had to love the music. I think it's more undeniably good and influential than the music white people produced. Is this actually racist or just me being a fan?
You said yourself, "even when people are racists, they had to love the music", so obviously it's racist.
What I mean is that, in a time when black people are being held down, they still managed to break through in certain fields, with sheer, undeniable talent.
I think B's point was that you said that white people couldn't have done the same thing...because they're white. You're ascribing an inequality based on race.
Maybe he'd be smart enough to figure it out if he was Asian.
But no, he's Jimmy the Greek.
Re: Cops Are The Worst
Posted: Tue June 16, 2020 8:09 pm
by tree_
Self wrote:tree_ wrote:wease wrote:tree_ wrote:B wrote:Probably worse, because with sheer talent, black people broke through in music, for example, in a way I can't imagine white people would have, faced with insurmountable opposition.
It's funny that within your defense of your racist opinions, you introduce entirely new racist concepts.
I think black people produced undeniably great music. Even when people are racists, they had to love the music. I think it's more undeniably good and influential than the music white people produced. Is this actually racist or just me being a fan?
You said yourself, "even when people are racists, they had to love the music", so obviously it's racist.
What I mean is that, in a time when black people are being held down, they still managed to break through in certain fields, with sheer, undeniable talent.
I think B's point was that you said that white people couldn't have done the same thing...because they're white. You're ascribing an inequality based on race.
Maybe I took it too far in the opposite direction because I'm white and it might convince you that because I'm white, I couldn't be racist if I denigrate my own race... You all seem to be thinking so illogically and unfairly... Who's to say how history would turn out changing things around jfc
Re: Cops Are The Worst
Posted: Tue June 16, 2020 8:10 pm
by tree_
I hope you all are enjoying throwing racist stones. You are bullies.
Re: Cops Are The Worst
Posted: Tue June 16, 2020 8:11 pm
by B
tree_ wrote:I hope you all are enjoying throwing racist stones. You are bullies.
If all I did today was bully a racist for being racist. I'm ok with that.
Re: Cops Are The Worst
Posted: Tue June 16, 2020 8:13 pm
by Strat
You should also maybe start studying black people and them becoming "successful" in music.
