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Re: Waiting For Stevie

Posted: Thu May 09, 2024 9:53 pm
by Jaeti
stip wrote:I agree Clem, but that was also a serious question.

Is it In Hiding? Does he hold any of the Gone's for a while?
Seven O'Clock at the 4:13 mark.

Re: Waiting For Stevie

Posted: Thu May 09, 2024 9:56 pm
by Jaeti
Though it's not as soar-y.

Re: Waiting For Stevie

Posted: Thu May 09, 2024 9:56 pm
by stip
hey, you’re right. song really undersells the moment

Re: Waiting For Stevie

Posted: Thu May 09, 2024 10:23 pm
by RockPusher
Awesome contrast between those two moments- great discussion

Re: Waiting For Stevie

Posted: Thu May 09, 2024 10:55 pm
by Birds in Hell
Whenever mention is made of 'soaring Eddie Vedder vocals' as being desirable in and of themselves, I think of this exchange and Jorge's corn chip simile (yes, I've thought it about it a lot in recent weeks):

http://forums.theskyiscrape.com/viewtop ... ip#p542286
Jorge wrote:
stip wrote:If you still like how Eddie sounds you'll still like pearl jam. If you don't like how he's aged he won't. Almost every other complaint (ESPECIALLY the songwriting/creativity ones) are just dancing around this
I'm sorry Stip but this is one of the straight-up dumbest things I've ever read here. Think about what you're saying for a minute. The complaints about the songwriting are really complaints about Eddie's voice.

Maybe you perceive Pearl Jam songs as merely serviceable delivery methods for soaring Eddie Vedder vocal performances, much like a corn chip is a serviceable delivery method for dip. But that's definitely not the case for everybody here.

Re: Waiting For Stevie

Posted: Thu May 09, 2024 11:47 pm
by stip
Birds in Hell wrote:Whenever mention is made of 'soaring Eddie Vedder vocals' as being desirable in and of themselves, I think of this exchange and Jorge's corn chip simile (yes, I've thought it about it a lot in recent weeks):

http://forums.theskyiscrape.com/viewtop ... ip#p542286
Jorge wrote:
stip wrote:If you still like how Eddie sounds you'll still like pearl jam. If you don't like how he's aged he won't. Almost every other complaint (ESPECIALLY the songwriting/creativity ones) are just dancing around this
I'm sorry Stip but this is one of the straight-up dumbest things I've ever read here. Think about what you're saying for a minute. The complaints about the songwriting are really complaints about Eddie's voice.

Maybe you perceive Pearl Jam songs as merely serviceable delivery methods for soaring Eddie Vedder vocal performances, much like a corn chip is a serviceable delivery method for dip. But that's definitely not the case for everybody here.
that is an impressive pull of a nine year old thread. And for many many people, thats something eddie does better than just about anyone, and is absolutely a draw and a good in itself. even if the song around it is kinda lame at least they elevate that moment

exhibit a: chorus of gone

but i recognize not for everyone here. its a big tent. It's no different than the sub section of fans who have the same reaction to a song that appears in 13/4 time or whatever

Re: Waiting For Stevie

Posted: Thu May 09, 2024 11:52 pm
by Ms Harmless
sorry, I didn't realise that thread was so old or I wouldn't have posted in it; deleted now

Re: Waiting For Stevie

Posted: Thu May 09, 2024 11:55 pm
by stip
you can resurrect it. there's no statute of limitations on old threads

Re: Waiting For Stevie

Posted: Thu May 09, 2024 11:57 pm
by Ms Harmless
sure, it just didn't feel super respectful, I don't want my own old threads pulled up

Re: Waiting For Stevie

Posted: Fri May 10, 2024 12:01 am
by stip
it's just a timestamp of where people were in their lives then.

That was a pretty toxic time on the board, insofar as I remember. That was the stretch I stopped posting for year long stretches, or close to it. Not a fun time for me to be a fan.

Re: Waiting For Stevie

Posted: Fri May 10, 2024 12:09 am
by Ms Harmless
yeah I get it, I've had rough patches too

Re: Waiting For Stevie

Posted: Fri May 10, 2024 12:19 am
by stip
If only people hated Lightning Bolt a little less

Re: Waiting For Stevie

Posted: Fri May 10, 2024 12:23 am
by stip
or were just slightly less shitty about it

Re: Waiting For Stevie

Posted: Fri May 10, 2024 12:48 am
by Birds in Hell
stip wrote:
Birds in Hell wrote:Whenever mention is made of 'soaring Eddie Vedder vocals' as being desirable in and of themselves, I think of this exchange and Jorge's corn chip simile (yes, I've thought it about it a lot in recent weeks):

http://forums.theskyiscrape.com/viewtop ... ip#p542286
Jorge wrote:
stip wrote:If you still like how Eddie sounds you'll still like pearl jam. If you don't like how he's aged he won't. Almost every other complaint (ESPECIALLY the songwriting/creativity ones) are just dancing around this
I'm sorry Stip but this is one of the straight-up dumbest things I've ever read here. Think about what you're saying for a minute. The complaints about the songwriting are really complaints about Eddie's voice.

Maybe you perceive Pearl Jam songs as merely serviceable delivery methods for soaring Eddie Vedder vocal performances, much like a corn chip is a serviceable delivery method for dip. But that's definitely not the case for everybody here.
that is an impressive pull of a nine year old thread. And for many many people, thats something eddie does better than just about anyone, and is absolutely a draw and a good in itself. even if the song around it is kinda lame at least they elevate that moment

exhibit a: chorus of gone

but i recognize not for everyone here. its a big tent. It's no different than the sub section of fans who have the same reaction to a song that appears in 13/4 time or whatever
To be clear, I didn't drag that quote back up with any ill intent. It's just lived rent free in my head for almost a decade, reasserting itself whenever appropriate, and I felt it was finally worth hunting down the original post.

Re: Waiting For Stevie

Posted: Fri May 10, 2024 12:54 am
by stip
I didn't take it that way. I was impressed at how far back that went

Re: Waiting For Stevie

Posted: Fri May 10, 2024 12:59 am
by Birds in Hell
Full disclosure - I'm not very good at identifying unusual time signatures (e.g. if something is in 7/4), even though I enjoy lots of music that uses them to great effect.

Re: Waiting For Stevie

Posted: Fri May 10, 2024 1:16 am
by Jorge
Wow I was so mean to Stip

Re: Waiting For Stevie

Posted: Fri May 10, 2024 1:21 am
by 96583UP
i listened to this song once and became physically ill

3 days later i woke up and there was this riff in my head

i think i knew where it was from

but kind of didnt want to acknowledge it

and it didnt really go away for a couple days

and yes it was this song
Spoiler: show
bring back Dave A

Re: Waiting For Stevie

Posted: Fri May 10, 2024 1:27 am
by Birds in Hell
96583UP wrote:3 days later i woke up and there was this riff in my head

i think i knew where it was from
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Re: Waiting For Stevie

Posted: Fri May 10, 2024 1:28 am
by 96583UP
he knew what he was doing

it's fine

this is all a simulation