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Re: Vs: Official Album thread
Posted: Thu April 16, 2020 7:34 pm
by RockPusher
Kevin Davis wrote:Leatherhead wrote:Replace Glorified G, Dissident, Rats, Leash, and Indifference, with Wash, State of Love and Trust, Hard to Imagine, Brother, Alone, and Footsteps. And you've got a much better album.
No way -- I like a lot of those songs but except for maybe "Alone" they have an entirely different feel.
I've recently been reawakened to the awesomeness of
Ten and
Vs.. Because I listen to them so rarely, I mostly just think of them in relation to the records that I like even better (
No Code et al.), and end up short-shrifting them. But both of them kick serious ass.
Kevin, I have just had this exact same experience.
Re: Vs: Official Album thread
Posted: Thu April 16, 2020 9:01 pm
by PHATJ
Leatherhead wrote:Replace Glorified G, Dissident, Rats, Leash, and Indifference, with Wash, State of Love and Trust, Hard to Imagine, Brother, Alone, and Footsteps. And you've got a much better album.
Oh good god, no. G, Dissident and Leash are all top songs for me. Two are in my top 10. And Wash is the only one of those songs (and maybe HTI) that I wish was actually on an album.
Re: Vs: Official Album thread
Posted: Thu April 16, 2020 9:15 pm
by LetMeSleep
Hard To Imagine and Alone are the only tracks mentioned that are remotely from the Vs era, the rest are from Ten era. (I know we're talking about a 15-18 month time period here).
HtI, Alone, Betterman and Whipping are the only real possibilities. Unless you throw in Crazy Mary.
Re: Vs: Official Album thread
Posted: Thu April 16, 2020 9:20 pm
by EJ
Hold On would've been the logical extension song from Ten to add to Vs. Glad they didn't.
Re: Vs: Official Album thread
Posted: Thu April 16, 2020 9:21 pm
by LetMeSleep
EJ wrote:Hold On would've been the logical extension song from Ten to add to Vs. Glad they didn't.
Don't remind me of that song. Yeah that one too.
Re: Vs: Official Album thread
Posted: Thu April 16, 2020 9:24 pm
by Jorge
Kevin Davis wrote:I still like what they moved onto even better, no question, but setting aside for a moment mankind's undying need to compare and rank things, these albums really do what they do very well.
Honestly at my most generous I think that's true to an extent of every PJ album except Lightning Bolt, which I just don't like.
Did you listen to my "Ramblings of a Lunatic" remix of Ten?
http://forums.theskyiscrape.com/viewtop ... 15&t=15245
Re: Vs: Official Album thread
Posted: Thu April 16, 2020 9:25 pm
by EJ
I'm not sure I've ever been blown away by a new album like I was that day in 1993.
Re: Vs: Official Album thread
Posted: Thu April 16, 2020 9:26 pm
by LetMeSleep
That album is perfect. Sure there are lesser songs but I wouldn't change that album one bit.
Re: Vs: Official Album thread
Posted: Thu April 16, 2020 9:55 pm
by Kevin Davis
theplatypus wrote:Kevin Davis wrote:I still like what they moved onto even better, no question, but setting aside for a moment mankind's undying need to compare and rank things, these albums really do what they do very well.
Honestly at my most generous I think that's true to an extent of every PJ album except Lightning Bolt, which I just don't like.
Did you listen to my "Ramblings of a Lunatic" remix of Ten?
http://forums.theskyiscrape.com/viewtop ... 15&t=15245
Now I have. What a delight.
Re: Vs: Official Album thread
Posted: Thu April 16, 2020 10:16 pm
by Hatfield
Vs. is one of the most perfect rock records of not just the 90's, but of any decade. I don't listen often at all, but saying something should be changed about Vs. is akin to saying something should be changed about Zeppelin II.
Vs. showed that PJ really was the best rock band on the planet. That album still holds up close to 30 years later.
Re: Vs: Official Album thread
Posted: Fri April 17, 2020 1:52 am
by 96583UP
this is their best album
Re: Vs: Official Album thread
Posted: Fri April 17, 2020 2:16 am
by Birds in Hell
96583UP wrote:this is their best album
Yes.
Re: Vs: Official Album thread
Posted: Fri April 17, 2020 2:17 am
by 96583UP
Birds in Hell wrote:96583UP wrote:this is their best album
Yes.
This.
Re: Vs: Official Album thread
Posted: Fri April 17, 2020 2:38 am
by Monkey_Driven
Nope.
Re: Vs: Official Album thread
Posted: Fri April 17, 2020 2:43 am
by 96583UP
Monkey_Driven wrote:Yep.
So Much This.
Re: Vs: Official Album thread
Posted: Fri April 17, 2020 2:44 am
by Monkey_Driven
Fake news.
Re: Vs: Official Album thread
Posted: Fri April 17, 2020 12:05 pm
by stip
I don't agree that this is their best album, but I wouldn't argue against someone who did.
Re: Vs: Official Album thread
Posted: Fri April 17, 2020 12:07 pm
by Anders
They had a great sound at the time, one of their best ever, but the songs are uneven. More so than the mid-PJ era, that often gets painted here as being uneven.
Re: Vs: Official Album thread
Posted: Fri April 17, 2020 12:21 pm
by tragabigzanda
Re: Vs: Official Album thread
Posted: Fri April 17, 2020 12:29 pm
by Anders
That's nice, that you still listen to this the most.