Matt Cameron quits Pearl Jam

[coptheriotact]

He’s recorded a lot of music lately, on sound cloud, the EP with Melvin’s. A lot of the lyrics are about moving on etc

His latest EP is called “new beginning”

I also remember an interview w/ Matt pinfield about dark matter where he didn’t seem very interested in talking about the songs.

I think it’s just as much creative as anything else

[Ms Harmless]

Yeah I agree with the 90s string being auditions. More so personality fit than musical. I think they thought they had found their forever drummer in Jack, so Matt absolutely swooped in and saved the day for Pearl Jam. And vice versa, as Matt was probably bummed about SG ending and wasn’t done with the being in a huge band thing.

The early drummers were girlfriends, Matt was the wife. A marriage that lasted 27 years, and now Pearl Jam enters their weird divorced guy phase. Hooking up with an old flame like Krusen to recapture the glory of their carefree early days makes a lot of sense.

thank you Matt for teaching us the lesson that Compatibility > Chemistry

my god, if only we had listened

[CCKaraoke]

Here’s why he quit:

Johnny Guitar
Cropduster
Unemployable
You Are
Take the Long Way
Get it Back
Evacuation
The Fixer
In the Moonlight
Get Right

Ten tunes. Ten tunes in 27 years over 7 albums. He finally said fuck this shit.

Ten of the best tunes they've put out in 27 years. I'm a bit bitter about that, but I'm not going to assume he was.
I could make a long list of bands where my favorite writer doesn't get enough songs lol.
We'll never know what glom of different factors played into his mind. Probably 100 different things and we can all relate.
But I don't doubt that the body breaking down was one of them.

I hope the band goes on. But I mean, I'd love it if they had some kind of unreleased song... one that really features Matt's talent and how he can and did take the band in unique and unexpected directions .. some kind of ... 'Last Word' either as a coda on his time with the band, or if they do hang it up, as a final and powerful message of their own. If only they had a song like that....

Dangit, just give us Lost Dogs 2 as a coda to Matt's time with the band. Mastered. Completed as needed. This IS the appropriate time lol. End of one era; start of the next.

[warehouse]

No way, these guys pump out all the stuff they want with or without the band.

isn't soundgarden in a lawsuit w/ chris cornell's wife to release an album?

it's probably a combination of everything. i think soundgarden going into the rnr hof is part of it. i think having to tour with pearl jam is another part of it.

[spike]

he realized he can finally comfortably retire now that he's not living in fear of kiss suing him.

[stip]

Not bitter, but maybe feeling some sense of time getting short to do some things he would like to do creatively, and feeling like PJ isn’t really the space for them.

No real idea though. I’d imagine in the end it’s a combination of things that are more personal and nuanced than we’ll ever really get to know.

as B said, he is prolific as hell outside the band - not sure how pearl jam would have slowed that down. If anything, it would draw more attention to that work.

But in the end you are right. all speculation and we will likely never know the full reason(s). Complex and personal. Seemingly not bitter, which is great.


How many full songs did matt write for soundgarden?

[wease]

Not bitter, but maybe feeling some sense of time getting short to do some things he would like to do creatively, and feeling like PJ isn’t really the space for them.

No real idea though. I’d imagine in the end it’s a combination of things that are more personal and nuanced than we’ll ever really get to know.

as B said, he is prolific as hell outside the band - not sure how pearl jam would have slowed that down. If anything, it would draw more attention to that work.

But in the end you are right. all speculation and we will likely never know the full reason(s). Complex and personal. Seemingly not bitter, which is great.


How many full songs did matt write for soundgarden?

He wrote Birth Ritual and Room A Thousand Years Wide. It doesn’t really matter after that.

[Bi_3]

Not bitter, but maybe feeling some sense of time getting short to do some things he would like to do creatively, and feeling like PJ isn’t really the space for them.

No real idea though. I’d imagine in the end it’s a combination of things that are more personal and nuanced than we’ll ever really get to know.

as B said, he is prolific as hell outside the band - not sure how pearl jam would have slowed that down. If anything, it would draw more attention to that work.

But in the end you are right. all speculation and we will likely never know the full reason(s). Complex and personal. Seemingly not bitter, which is great.


How many full songs did matt write for soundgarden?

He wrote Birth Ritual and Room A Thousand Years Wide. It doesn’t really matter after that.

And Kickstand, right?

[Bammer]

I just really hope it’s not cancer

[B]

No way, these guys pump out all the stuff they want with or without the band.

isn't soundgarden in a lawsuit w/ chris cornell's wife to release an album?

Do you think Pearl Jam was hampering Matt Cameron's lawyer from arguing with the Cornell estate?

[warehouse]

No way, these guys pump out all the stuff they want with or without the band.

isn't soundgarden in a lawsuit w/ chris cornell's wife to release an album?

Do you think Pearl Jam was hampering Matt Cameron's lawyer from arguing with the Cornell estate?

yes thats exactly what i meant

you said they are pumping out all the stuff they want. if soundgarden is still having issues with cornell's wife they aren't pumping out all the stuff they want. if the lawsuit is resolved, i imagine the rest of soundgarden is going to want to record a lot. i assume matt cameron wants to put more energy toward that and not have to have commitments to pearl jam. i'm sure a pj tour takes a lot out of him.

[VinylGuy]

I hope SG becomes a touring unit but i still dont see how that would be difficult with PJ. Maybe Pj is about to record another album and planning another tour, who knows.

[tree_]

What are the odds Chad Smith ends up with the band at least temporarily? What's the schedule like with the peppers? Seems like a good fit. He already collaborated and toured with Eddie vedward

[VinylGuy]

unlikely. When RHCP touring is huge, like 2 or more years per tour. If Pj had a tour already booked, maybe but if not, i dont see it.

[wease]

Not bitter, but maybe feeling some sense of time getting short to do some things he would like to do creatively, and feeling like PJ isn’t really the space for them.

No real idea though. I’d imagine in the end it’s a combination of things that are more personal and nuanced than we’ll ever really get to know.

as B said, he is prolific as hell outside the band - not sure how pearl jam would have slowed that down. If anything, it would draw more attention to that work.

But in the end you are right. all speculation and we will likely never know the full reason(s). Complex and personal. Seemingly not bitter, which is great.


How many full songs did matt write for soundgarden?

He wrote Birth Ritual and Room A Thousand Years Wide. It doesn’t really matter after that.

And Kickstand, right?

I’ll allow it.

[wease]

No way, these guys pump out all the stuff they want with or without the band.

isn't soundgarden in a lawsuit w/ chris cornell's wife to release an album?

Do you think Pearl Jam was hampering Matt Cameron's lawyer from arguing with the Cornell estate?

yes thats exactly what i meant

you said they are pumping out all the stuff they want. if soundgarden is still having issues with cornell's wife they aren't pumping out all the stuff they want. if the lawsuit is resolved, i imagine the rest of soundgarden is going to want to record a lot. i assume matt cameron wants to put more energy toward that and not have to have commitments to pearl jam. i'm sure a pj tour takes a lot out of him.

Wasn’t it announced a few months back that lawsuits with her were resolved?

[B]

No way, these guys pump out all the stuff they want with or without the band.

isn't soundgarden in a lawsuit w/ chris cornell's wife to release an album?

Do you think Pearl Jam was hampering Matt Cameron's lawyer from arguing with the Cornell estate?

yes thats exactly what i meant

you said they are pumping out all the stuff they want. if soundgarden is still having issues with cornell's wife they aren't pumping out all the stuff they want. if the lawsuit is resolved, i imagine the rest of soundgarden is going to want to record a lot. i assume matt cameron wants to put more energy toward that and not have to have commitments to pearl jam. i'm sure a pj tour takes a lot out of him.

Meh. They made King Animal while Matt was in Pearl Jam. There's no way that he couldn't devote himself to cleaning up the lost files of Soundgarden. There's no way this split is about creative issues. 0 chance.

[EBowie]

It doesn't sound like in-fighting, which is definitely not their style (at least post-2000), so I just hope that Matt is not having a health problem.

[Strat]

No way, these guys pump out all the stuff they want with or without the band.

isn't soundgarden in a lawsuit w/ chris cornell's wife to release an album?

Do you think Pearl Jam was hampering Matt Cameron's lawyer from arguing with the Cornell estate?

yes thats exactly what i meant

you said they are pumping out all the stuff they want. if soundgarden is still having issues with cornell's wife they aren't pumping out all the stuff they want. if the lawsuit is resolved, i imagine the rest of soundgarden is going to want to record a lot. i assume matt cameron wants to put more energy toward that and not have to have commitments to pearl jam. i'm sure a pj tour takes a lot out of him.

Meh. They made King Animal while Matt was in Pearl Jam. There's no way that he couldn't devote himself to cleaning up the lost files of Soundgarden. There's no way this split is about creative issues. 0 chance.

Exactly.

Also stop talking about soundgarden as if they're still an active thing. Cornell is gone. No Cornell no soundgarden.

[super nintendo chalmers]

It's sad, I like Matt. Like others have said, he was the only drummer I've seen play with the band. But he's the oldest in the band, right? Good for him to give the ghost. A lifetime of touring is a slog, even if you're in a legacy act like PJ.

Fingers crossed for that SKIN YARN reunion.