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Re: The Vinyl Thread: Still Listen On Wax, Don't Use The CD
Posted: Wed March 13, 2013 3:12 pm
by kreng
interestingly enough MOV just announced 2 new MONO versions of AYE.
http://www.musiconvinyl.com/news/hendrix-in-mono
Re: The Vinyl Thread: Still Listen On Wax, Don't Use The CD
Posted: Thu March 14, 2013 12:18 am
by Wendy Carlos's Twin
southp wrote:I've heard some mixed reviews, so I totally get what you're saying. But I'm curious if you have heard it yourself or just going on what other's have said? The only thing that doesn't add up is the part about missing tapes for AYE. From my understanding it was remastered from the original mono mixes (on tape). I haven't read anything to indicate they are remastering from an actual vinyl source, back to tape, back to vinyl... that's ridiculous and probably just conjecture on some internet message board.
As far back as the 70's, they were using vinyl transfers for mono tracks that they didn't have stereo mixes of. The German Polydor AYE CD from 1986 was taken from vinyl. The UK "Red House" as released on the AYE remaster in 1996 was taken from vinyl. The mono "Can You See Me" as released on that box set not too long ago was taken from vinyl.
Do you see a pattern yet?
And besides that, the EQ shifts and complete lack of high end on the new LP indicate that the UK vinyl was used yet again.
Do you honestly think they are going to admit that? Using poor vinyl as a master source? You're talking about a company that has been releasing bottom of the barrel garbage and advertising it as "long lost hendrix classics". Get real.
Re: The Vinyl Thread: Still Listen On Wax, Don't Use The CD
Posted: Thu March 14, 2013 1:59 am
by verb_to_trust
Re: The Vinyl Thread: Still Listen On Wax, Don't Use The CD
Posted: Thu March 14, 2013 2:07 am
by WtOB?
verb_to_trust wrote:
That is a cool album

Re: The Vinyl Thread: Still Listen On Wax, Don't Use The CD
Posted: Thu March 14, 2013 2:33 am
by verb_to_trust
Yeah, its got a nice 90's nostalgic sort of sound and was only 10 bucks.
Re: The Vinyl Thread: Still Listen On Wax, Don't Use The CD
Posted: Fri March 15, 2013 6:40 pm
by liebzz
I did it. It took me celebrating a new job, a 20% off coupon to J&R, and 40 minutes walking around the store determining whether it was just too much money for a single 30 minute record, but I bought the Into the Wild Soundtrack.
Damn thing is Crate & Barrel priced: you know, when something is cool and wanted but priced just at that level where you are guaranteed to get into a fight with your wife over whether it's worth the money. Yeah. That.
Re: The Vinyl Thread: Still Listen On Wax, Don't Use The CD
Posted: Fri March 15, 2013 6:42 pm
by VinylGuy
i got Ukelele Songs and that 7" Love boat captain...havent listened yet but they look so nice.
Re: The Vinyl Thread: Still Listen On Wax, Don't Use The CD
Posted: Fri March 15, 2013 6:46 pm
by liebzz
VinylGuy wrote:i got Ukelele Songs and that 7" Love boat captain...havent listened yet but they look so nice.
These are next on my list. The remainder of the Pearl Jam catalogue will one day be on my list if and when they reissue Binaural, Riot Act, and s/t on vinyl. The live albums too I guess.
Re: The Vinyl Thread: Still Listen On Wax, Don't Use The CD
Posted: Fri March 15, 2013 6:48 pm
by VinylGuy
liebzz wrote:VinylGuy wrote:i got Ukelele Songs and that 7" Love boat captain...havent listened yet but they look so nice.
These are next on my list. The remainder of the Pearl Jam catalogue will one day be on my list if and when they reissue Binaural, Riot Act, and s/t on vinyl. The live albums too I guess.
i want Binaural and Yield..already have the others...but yeah UK is a really nice addition because the art seems to be made for this size, is really nice.
Re: The Vinyl Thread: Still Listen On Wax, Don't Use The CD
Posted: Fri March 15, 2013 7:07 pm
by liebzz
As is the case with the Into the Wild Soundtrack...but $40 is just steep for a 30 minute record. Like you, I would order Uke Songs and the 7" together to maybe feel less battered by the insane shipping prices.
Re: The Vinyl Thread: Still Listen On Wax, Don't Use The CD
Posted: Fri March 15, 2013 7:37 pm
by VinylGuy
liebzz wrote:As is the case with the Into the Wild Soundtrack...but $40 is just steep for a 30 minute record. Like you, I would order Uke Songs and the 7" together to maybe feel less battered by the insane shipping prices.
yeah, those are collectors items of course...fuck, i want that ITW vinyl too...
Re: The Vinyl Thread: Still Listen On Wax, Don't Use The CD
Posted: Fri March 15, 2013 8:07 pm
by southp
Wendy Carlos's Twin wrote:southp wrote:I've heard some mixed reviews, so I totally get what you're saying. But I'm curious if you have heard it yourself or just going on what other's have said? The only thing that doesn't add up is the part about missing tapes for AYE. From my understanding it was remastered from the original mono mixes (on tape). I haven't read anything to indicate they are remastering from an actual vinyl source, back to tape, back to vinyl... that's ridiculous and probably just conjecture on some internet message board.
As far back as the 70's, they were using vinyl transfers for mono tracks that they didn't have stereo mixes of. The German Polydor AYE CD from 1986 was taken from vinyl. The UK "Red House" as released on the AYE remaster in 1996 was taken from vinyl. The mono "Can You See Me" as released on that box set not too long ago was taken from vinyl.
Do you see a pattern yet?
And besides that, the EQ shifts and complete lack of high end on the new LP indicate that the UK vinyl was used yet again.
Do you honestly think they are going to admit that? Using poor vinyl as a master source? You're talking about a company that has been releasing bottom of the barrel garbage and advertising it as "long lost hendrix classics". Get real.
Are you some sort of vinyl-conspiracy theorist? I think you spend too much time over at the Steve Hoffman forum. Anyways, maybe someone should just call up Bernie Grundman and get to the bottom of this.
Re: The Vinyl Thread: Still Listen On Wax, Don't Use The CD
Posted: Fri March 15, 2013 8:11 pm
by southp
liebzz wrote:As is the case with the Into the Wild Soundtrack...but $40 is just steep for a 30 minute record. Like you, I would order Uke Songs and the 7" together to maybe feel less battered by the insane shipping prices.
I just got my LBC 7" yesterday. Haven't even opened it yet.
You should definitely get ITW on vinyl. It's a must have IMO. Both the original and MOV pressings are great.
Re: The Vinyl Thread: Still Listen On Wax, Don't Use The CD
Posted: Fri March 15, 2013 8:30 pm
by VinylGuy
southp wrote:liebzz wrote:As is the case with the Into the Wild Soundtrack...but $40 is just steep for a 30 minute record. Like you, I would order Uke Songs and the 7" together to maybe feel less battered by the insane shipping prices.
I just got my LBC 7" yesterday. Haven't even opened it yet.
You should definitely get ITW on vinyl. It's a must have IMO. Both the original and MOV pressings are great.
How is the booklet?
Re: The Vinyl Thread: Still Listen On Wax, Don't Use The CD
Posted: Fri March 15, 2013 8:34 pm
by Simple Torture
When Ukelele Songs came out, I got it pretty cheap at a record shop; don't remember exactly how much, but it was under $30. It came with all the stuff they were advertising as exclusive at the Ten Club shop--big lyric book, plus a book with the how-to ukelele stuff. I bought the MOV "Into the Wild" while there was a sale at Newbury Comics; it was Buy Two Get One Half Off (or maybe free? I really don't think it was for free) so I bought three pretty pricey records to get the best deal, I think. Actually, I probably got fleeced.
The new 10 Club single arrived today, as well as a cool Eels single!
Re: The Vinyl Thread: Still Listen On Wax, Don't Use The CD
Posted: Fri March 15, 2013 8:37 pm
by VinylGuy
Simple Torture wrote:When Ukelele Songs came out, I got it pretty cheap at a record shop; don't remember exactly how much, but it was under $30. It came with all the stuff they were advertising as exclusive at the Ten Club shop--big lyric book, plus a book with the how-to ukelele stuff. I bought the MOV "Into the Wild" while there was a sale at Newbury Comics; it was Buy Two Get One Half Off (or maybe free? I really don't think it was for free) so I bought three pretty pricey records to get the best deal, I think. Actually, I probably got fleeced.
The new 10 Club single arrived today, as well as a cool Eels single!
i bought UK with that stuff too at $24 i think...i dont remember...how is the 10 club single?
Re: The Vinyl Thread: Still Listen On Wax, Don't Use The CD
Posted: Fri March 15, 2013 8:57 pm
by liebzz
I got the 10C single yesterday. Haven't played it yet, but it looks nice. haha.
Yeah, I am wanting the Uke Songs. $24.99 doesn't seem so bad, especially compared to the $40 everyone wanted for ITW.
Re: The Vinyl Thread: Still Listen On Wax, Don't Use The CD
Posted: Fri March 15, 2013 8:59 pm
by VinylGuy
i want the Mad Season vinyl that is coming out...
SG is going to release their King Animal demos on vinyl in RSD...is actually a cool item but i dont care that much to have it.
Re: The Vinyl Thread: Still Listen On Wax, Don't Use The CD
Posted: Fri March 15, 2013 10:58 pm
by southp
VinylGuy wrote:i want the Mad Season vinyl that is coming out...
SG is going to release their King Animal demos on vinyl in RSD...is actually a cool item but i dont care that much to have it.
Is there an announcement about Mad Season on vinyl? I haven't see anything.
That's a must-have for me.
Re: The Vinyl Thread: Still Listen On Wax, Don't Use The CD
Posted: Fri March 15, 2013 11:02 pm
by Simple Torture
RSD has yet to release its official list of releases yet (what's taking them so long???) but on every list of rumors/partial announcements, I've seen Mad Season listed. I don't remember where it was, but I'm pretty sure I read that it's going to get a limited release that day and then a wider release later on. I would hate if it's super-limited.
I bought a used copy of "The Wall" last week (from what I can tell it's from 1979, maybe the third pressing or so) and even though the cover is a bit beat up, I cleaned the dust off the records and it sounds great! Been waiting to get this for a while.