Red Mosquito

wease wrote:

epilogue wrote:

wease wrote:We’re into season 2 now. I love how the two seasons are tied together. And Ted Danson! Fuck yeah!

I didn't know if you knew and didn't want to spoil it for you.

I did not! What a surprise. Thanks for that.

Monkey_Driven wrote:My wife can't even make it 20 minutes into each episode without falling asleep. I'm enjoying this season so far (only 4 episodes in), but it's missing something.

epilogue wrote:I'm one episode behind in S4. I'm still watching, obviously. And there's enough to keep me wanting to watch. But it feels like a full letter grade lesser than the three previous seasons to me. I hope there's something surprising in store in the home stretch.

It does have me thinking about how each season has a Coen aesthetic but not always a Fargo aesthetic. S4 feels like Miller's Crossing Coens. S3 was very A Simple Man Coens. I think the reason the first season is still my favorite is that it's the full Fargo Coens. It's also the funniest, I think.

Monkey_Driven wrote:

epilogue wrote:I'm one episode behind in S4. I'm still watching, obviously. And there's enough to keep me wanting to watch. But it feels like a full letter grade lesser than the three previous seasons to me. I hope there's something surprising in store in the home stretch.

It does have me thinking about how each season has a Coen aesthetic but not always a Fargo aesthetic. S4 feels like Miller's Crossing Coens. S3 was very A Simple Man Coens. I think the reason the first season is still my favorite is that it's the full Fargo Coens. It's also the funniest, I think.

It does seem to be missing the style of previous seasons other than the few overhead driving shots. There's not really a standout performance/character either, though I'm still a couple of episodes behind.

epilogue wrote:

Monkey_Driven wrote:

epilogue wrote:I'm one episode behind in S4. I'm still watching, obviously. And there's enough to keep me wanting to watch. But it feels like a full letter grade lesser than the three previous seasons to me. I hope there's something surprising in store in the home stretch.

It does have me thinking about how each season has a Coen aesthetic but not always a Fargo aesthetic. S4 feels like Miller's Crossing Coens. S3 was very A Simple Man Coens. I think the reason the first season is still my favorite is that it's the full Fargo Coens. It's also the funniest, I think.

It does seem to be missing the style of previous seasons other than the few overhead driving shots. There's not really a standout performance/character either, though I'm still a couple of episodes behind.

I would agree. There are some interesting characters but none that really grip me. And all of the performances are uneven. The cinematography is gorgeous. But, yeah, the feel/style isn't totally there. This is also the first one that really feels overlong. The characters are making decisions that feel like writer necessity more than organic character choices. I feel like it should be over by now.

wease wrote:

epilogue wrote:

Monkey_Driven wrote:

epilogue wrote:I'm one episode behind in S4. I'm still watching, obviously. And there's enough to keep me wanting to watch. But it feels like a full letter grade lesser than the three previous seasons to me. I hope there's something surprising in store in the home stretch.

It does have me thinking about how each season has a Coen aesthetic but not always a Fargo aesthetic. S4 feels like Miller's Crossing Coens. S3 was very A Simple Man Coens. I think the reason the first season is still my favorite is that it's the full Fargo Coens. It's also the funniest, I think.

It does seem to be missing the style of previous seasons other than the few overhead driving shots. There's not really a standout performance/character either, though I'm still a couple of episodes behind.

I would agree. There are some interesting characters but none that really grip me. And all of the performances are uneven. The cinematography is gorgeous. But, yeah, the feel/style isn't totally there. This is also the first one that really feels overlong. The characters are making decisions that feel like writer necessity more than organic character choices. I feel like it should be over by now.

I think the main difference in this current season and the other three is that this one seems to be focused on something that happened (gang/turf war) rather that incidents that bring individual characters together. There is no Lester or Emmitt or Peggy. This season is coming in from a totally different direction.

epilogue wrote:Event/plot over character. I agree. Which is unfortunate. The strength of the show (the strength of the Coens) is character. Not having someone to latch onto or really even anyone to like very much hurts. Even the villains in the previous seasons have been (if not likeable per se) fun and fascinating.

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tornado

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A Serious Man

Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

The Argonaut wrote:The last episode prominently featured a billboard. I think this may have been a callback to the Coen brothers film Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri.