Red Mosquito

Oh yeah Sweet Lew is also a big dud.

SL is awesome you dorks

I wouldn’t pretend to argue that it’s the “worst” song, but Hold On is the song I enjoy the least on there.

Like the least:
Down
Last Kiss
Sweet Lou
Bee Girl

Like the Most:
In the Moonlight
Black Red Yellow
Fatal
Strangest Tribe

tragabigzanda wrote:Sweet Lew then probably Alone

Alone is top tier Pearl Jam but the version on Lost Dogs stinks.

Least favorite:
Brother (instrumental)
Drifting new version
4/20/02

Favorite:
In the Moonlight
Fatal
Strangest Tribe

Least favorites:
Sweet Lew
Whale Song
Black Red Yellow

Favorites:
Fatal
Sad
Undone

Is Red, Black, Yellow the one song on Lost Dogs that benefited from being redone? I admit I don’t think I’ve ever heard the Hail, Hail B-side. On LD, the guitars during the bridge are so subtly good. If you don’t listen closely you could easily miss the excellence. Should the Rodman track be taken out?

A Sweet Lew instrumental would be better.

Hold On has the classic PJ guitar tones and “put it in her pocket when it should’ve been framed” is quintessential Ed lyrics + delivery.

Dirty Frank is good but the live take from the Orpheum show is tops.

McParadigm wrote:I wouldn’t pretend to argue that it’s the “worst” song, but Hold On is the song I enjoy the least on there.

The problem with "Hold On" is that the chorus is big bunch of nothing. The kind of thing where any good songwriter/producer would say "now that we have a placeholder, let's write an actual chorus". The way that little guitar line after the words "Hold On" resolves atonally is somehow astonishing to me. There is no satisfaction achieved, almost as if they are trolling.

"Brother" (with vocals) and "Just A Girl" are both far better songs IMO. A good example of "Why did they put that on there and not those?". And the actual finished version of "Just A Girl" is still unreleased, but we have two versions of "Hold On" now.

Happy Trees wrote: And the actual finished version of "Just A Girl" is still unreleased.

I thought this was on the Ten reissue?

LD Top 3:
Sad
Hitchhiker
Black, Red, Yellow

LD Bottom 3:
Don't Gimme No Lip
Sweet Lew
Yellow Ledbetter

Leatherhead wrote:

Happy Trees wrote: And the actual finished version of "Just A Girl" is still unreleased.

I thought this was on the Ten reissue?

From memory, the reissue had the 1990 demo version, not the version recorded during the Ten sessions.

Hard to imagine
Otherwise
Strangest Tribe
Let me sleep
Fatal
Foot steps
All Night
In the Moonlight
Yellow ledbetter
Wash
Dead man

Happy Trees wrote:

McParadigm wrote:I wouldn’t pretend to argue that it’s the “worst” song, but Hold On is the song I enjoy the least on there.

The problem with "Hold On" is that the chorus is big bunch of nothing. The kind of thing where any good songwriter/producer would say "now that we have a placeholder, let's write an actual chorus". The way that little guitar line after the words "Hold On" resolves atonally is somehow astonishing to me. There is no satisfaction achieved, almost as if they are trolling.

"Brother" (with vocals) and "Just A Girl" are both far better songs IMO. A good example of "Why did they put that on there and not those?". And the actual finished version of "Just A Girl" is still unreleased, but we have two versions of "Hold On" now.

There’s actually a third version out there.

i prefer hold on to just a girl or brother, but all three are minor songs from a major era

Hold On seems to be the one of the three they really wanted to make work. We know they worked on 2 different versions of it during Vs. And Ed kept throwing “hold on” into improvs (back when they would do them).

So, we all agree then, right?

That LOST DOGS is the #1 Pearl Jam album, on any rational "Rank the Albums" list.