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Re: TV: Lost
Posted: Wed February 23, 2022 7:16 pm
by lennytheweedwhacker
I still enjoy the show despite its shortcomings. Some of these season 5 episodes are worse than I remembered though.
Re: TV: Lost
Posted: Wed February 23, 2022 7:23 pm
by epilogue
Monkey_Driven wrote:The entire Walt/Michael storyline is product of its time. Too many episodes a season lead everything being too bloated.
And that's why Damon was so adamant that ABC give an end date.
The other issue with Walt was that the show was time specific and the kid was growing/aging SO fast. They had to get rid of him.
Re: TV: Lost
Posted: Wed February 23, 2022 7:23 pm
by epilogue
tragabigzanda wrote:Monkey_Driven wrote:The entire Walt/Michael storyline is product of its time. Too many episodes a season lead everything being too bloated.
I think this is a good insight. I wonder how much stronger the show would be with an 8-10 episode season on Netflix or something.
Just watch Leftovers and you'll know.
Re: TV: Lost
Posted: Wed February 23, 2022 7:24 pm
by epilogue
lennytheweedwhacker wrote:I still enjoy the show despite its shortcomings. Some of these season 5 episodes are worse than I remembered though.
It's still the best network drama/genre series of all time. It was a landmark show and a genuine achievement.
Re: TV: Lost
Posted: Wed February 23, 2022 7:31 pm
by lennytheweedwhacker
epilogue wrote:lennytheweedwhacker wrote:I still enjoy the show despite its shortcomings. Some of these season 5 episodes are worse than I remembered though.
It's still the best network drama/genre series of all time. It was a landmark show and a genuine achievement.
This may be a dumb question, but had any show prior done flashbacks/backstories in the same way? Or at least the amount and time dedicated
Re: TV: Lost
Posted: Wed February 23, 2022 7:32 pm
by epilogue
lennytheweedwhacker wrote:epilogue wrote:lennytheweedwhacker wrote:I still enjoy the show despite its shortcomings. Some of these season 5 episodes are worse than I remembered though.
It's still the best network drama/genre series of all time. It was a landmark show and a genuine achievement.
This may be a dumb question, but had any show prior done flashbacks/backstories in the same way? Or at least the amount and time dedicated
Maybe? Probably? I don't know. Certainly none of them did it as effectively.
Re: TV: Lost
Posted: Wed February 23, 2022 7:48 pm
by lennytheweedwhacker
epilogue wrote:lennytheweedwhacker wrote:epilogue wrote:lennytheweedwhacker wrote:I still enjoy the show despite its shortcomings. Some of these season 5 episodes are worse than I remembered though.
It's still the best network drama/genre series of all time. It was a landmark show and a genuine achievement.
This may be a dumb question, but had any show prior done flashbacks/backstories in the same way? Or at least the amount and time dedicated
Maybe? Probably? I don't know. Certainly none of them did it as effectively.
Yeah I’ve never really researched it, but have often wondered. I think it’s definitely more common now since Lost.
Re: TV: Lost
Posted: Wed February 23, 2022 7:49 pm
by epilogue
lennytheweedwhacker wrote:epilogue wrote:lennytheweedwhacker wrote:epilogue wrote:lennytheweedwhacker wrote:I still enjoy the show despite its shortcomings. Some of these season 5 episodes are worse than I remembered though.
It's still the best network drama/genre series of all time. It was a landmark show and a genuine achievement.
This may be a dumb question, but had any show prior done flashbacks/backstories in the same way? Or at least the amount and time dedicated
Maybe? Probably? I don't know. Certainly none of them did it as effectively.
Yeah I’ve never really researched it, but have often wondered. I think it’s definitely more common now since Lost.
That feels right, yeah
Re: TV: Lost
Posted: Wed February 23, 2022 7:51 pm
by lennytheweedwhacker
epilogue wrote:lennytheweedwhacker wrote:epilogue wrote:lennytheweedwhacker wrote:epilogue wrote:lennytheweedwhacker wrote:I still enjoy the show despite its shortcomings. Some of these season 5 episodes are worse than I remembered though.
It's still the best network drama/genre series of all time. It was a landmark show and a genuine achievement.
This may be a dumb question, but had any show prior done flashbacks/backstories in the same way? Or at least the amount and time dedicated
Maybe? Probably? I don't know. Certainly none of them did it as effectively.
Yeah I’ve never really researched it, but have often wondered. I think it’s definitely more common now since Lost.
That feels right, yeah
You feel right.
Re: TV: Lost
Posted: Wed February 23, 2022 8:00 pm
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.
Re: TV: Lost
Posted: Wed February 23, 2022 8:14 pm
by lennytheweedwhacker
tragabigzanda wrote:epilogue wrote:lennytheweedwhacker wrote:epilogue wrote:lennytheweedwhacker wrote:I still enjoy the show despite its shortcomings. Some of these season 5 episodes are worse than I remembered though.
It's still the best network drama/genre series of all time. It was a landmark show and a genuine achievement.
This may be a dumb question, but had any show prior done flashbacks/backstories in the same way? Or at least the amount and time dedicated
Maybe? Probably? I don't know. Certainly none of them did it as effectively.
Dream On has those great old TV show flashbacks
That’s not a real show.
Re: TV: Lost
Posted: Wed February 23, 2022 8:16 pm
by epilogue
lennytheweedwhacker wrote:epilogue wrote:lennytheweedwhacker wrote:epilogue wrote:lennytheweedwhacker wrote:epilogue wrote:lennytheweedwhacker wrote:I still enjoy the show despite its shortcomings. Some of these season 5 episodes are worse than I remembered though.
It's still the best network drama/genre series of all time. It was a landmark show and a genuine achievement.
This may be a dumb question, but had any show prior done flashbacks/backstories in the same way? Or at least the amount and time dedicated
Maybe? Probably? I don't know. Certainly none of them did it as effectively.
Yeah I’ve never really researched it, but have often wondered. I think it’s definitely more common now since Lost.
That feels right, yeah
You feel right.
Re: TV: Lost
Posted: Wed February 23, 2022 8:17 pm
by epilogue
lennytheweedwhacker wrote:tragabigzanda wrote:epilogue wrote:lennytheweedwhacker wrote:epilogue wrote:lennytheweedwhacker wrote:I still enjoy the show despite its shortcomings. Some of these season 5 episodes are worse than I remembered though.
It's still the best network drama/genre series of all time. It was a landmark show and a genuine achievement.
This may be a dumb question, but had any show prior done flashbacks/backstories in the same way? Or at least the amount and time dedicated
Maybe? Probably? I don't know. Certainly none of them did it as effectively.
Dream On has those great old TV show flashbacks
That’s not a real show.
Re: TV: Lost
Posted: Wed February 23, 2022 8:23 pm
by B
lennytheweedwhacker wrote:I still enjoy the show despite its shortcomings. Some of these season 5 episodes are worse than I remembered though.
Season 5 is where I am now, and it's really frustrating. They dropped several characters that they've been establishing since the beginning (Rose and Bernard, Claire), and I'm apparently supposed to give a shit about Miles and Daniel and Scarlett, who came to the island with the crew coming to kill everyone.
I'm sure Claire will be back soon, but I'm halfway through Season 5, and last we saw of her was last season when she left her baby and was just hanging out in the cabin with Jack's dad acting like Brad Pitt in True Romance. "No, I'm cool John. I'm right where I'm supposed to be." WTF?
And why, why, oh fucking, why does no one ever kill Ben Linus. All he ever does is lie and hurt and torture people, and whenever someone points it out, he yells at them and tells one fucking truth, dangling it in front of them like a carrot on a stick. He's the most unconvincing, creepy manipulator there ever was.
If someone had shot him in the face two seasons ago, everyone would be happier.
I'm still liking the show, but I'm feeling that frustration that I remember creeping back in.
Re: TV: Lost
Posted: Wed February 23, 2022 8:26 pm
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.
Re: TV: Lost
Posted: Wed February 23, 2022 8:30 pm
by epilogue
Bunch of rubes!
Re: TV: Lost
Posted: Wed February 23, 2022 9:07 pm
by lennytheweedwhacker
I disagree on the Daniel, Charlotte, Miles storyline. It’s flawed but at least interesting. And I’m okay with Claire disappearing since I always found her irritating
Re: TV: Lost
Posted: Wed February 23, 2022 9:09 pm
by B
lennytheweedwhacker wrote:I disagree on the Daniel, Charlotte, Miles storyline. It’s flawed but at least interesting. And I’m okay with Claire disappearing since I always found her irritating
Am I supposed to care that Daniel was in love with Charlotte? It's just a tool for create consequences of the time travel.
Re: TV: Lost
Posted: Wed February 23, 2022 9:29 pm
by lennytheweedwhacker
B wrote:lennytheweedwhacker wrote:I disagree on the Daniel, Charlotte, Miles storyline. It’s flawed but at least interesting. And I’m okay with Claire disappearing since I always found her irritating
Am I supposed to care that Daniel was in love with Charlotte? It's just a tool for create consequences of the time travel.
Yes. It’s beautiful.
Re: TV: Lost
Posted: Wed February 23, 2022 10:32 pm
by B
So is my grammar.