Red Mosquito

digster wrote:

stip wrote:

digster wrote:

stip wrote:
If I ever got to ask the band a question in an interview I would love to know how the proliferation of side projects impacts the band. Are the side projects a response to an inactive pearl jam? Or does it reflect poor scheduling and/or a desire to not step on other people's toes. Do these feed off each other?

i.e.--they lose matt for a while for soundgarden, so eddie releases his uke album and prepares to go on tour. Matt is back but eddie got hurt so he has to delay his tour. While that is happening Stone records some stuff. Eddie is good to go but do they pull the plug on whatever stone is doing. Pearl jam is more important, but who is going to be the dick who says 'you don't get to do your solo thing because everyone else is ready to go.'

I'd like to hope it is that.

I don't know about this; to use Jeff as an example (simply because he seems to, overall, be the guy working the most)...he gets tired of PJ sitting on its' ass for the third year running and gets some stuff together to work on. If I was him, I'm not sure how kindly I'd take to being told that that has to shut down cause the other four members of the band finally got their act together. And even though I'd prefer more PJ, I think he'd be perfectly justified in saying no way to that idea.

Aren't we agreeing with each other here?

Unless I'm reading wrong (very possible), I don't think Jeff or whoever should be in a position where they have to drop whatever they're doing, something that they may be inspired by, because it took Pearl Jam so long to get off its' ass. Selfishly, I guess I'd want that to happen because none of the side projects have really bowled me over, but looking at it from any individual member of the band's perspective, I'd be pretty pissed if I was expected to curtail what I was doing because everyone else decided to stop being lazy.

stip wrote:

digster wrote:

stip wrote:

digster wrote:

stip wrote:
If I ever got to ask the band a question in an interview I would love to know how the proliferation of side projects impacts the band. Are the side projects a response to an inactive pearl jam? Or does it reflect poor scheduling and/or a desire to not step on other people's toes. Do these feed off each other?

i.e.--they lose matt for a while for soundgarden, so eddie releases his uke album and prepares to go on tour. Matt is back but eddie got hurt so he has to delay his tour. While that is happening Stone records some stuff. Eddie is good to go but do they pull the plug on whatever stone is doing. Pearl jam is more important, but who is going to be the dick who says 'you don't get to do your solo thing because everyone else is ready to go.'

I'd like to hope it is that.

I don't know about this; to use Jeff as an example (simply because he seems to, overall, be the guy working the most)...he gets tired of PJ sitting on its' ass for the third year running and gets some stuff together to work on. If I was him, I'm not sure how kindly I'd take to being told that that has to shut down cause the other four members of the band finally got their act together. And even though I'd prefer more PJ, I think he'd be perfectly justified in saying no way to that idea.

Aren't we agreeing with each other here?

Unless I'm reading wrong (very possible), I don't think Jeff or whoever should be in a position where they have to drop whatever they're doing, something that they may be inspired by, because it took Pearl Jam so long to get off its' ass. Selfishly, I guess I'd want that to happen because none of the side projects have really bowled me over, but looking at it from any individual member of the band's perspective, I'd be pretty pissed if I was expected to curtail what I was doing because everyone else decided to stop being lazy.

that was my point. I wouldn't be surprised if one of the reasons why this took so long was because of people starting these projects during downtime and the side projects getting in the way of everyone working on pearl jam because no one really wants to say 'stop doing your own thing' right now.

SpectorHD wrote:All the sideprojects wouldnt be so frustrating if they were good.

Thejambi wrote:

stip wrote:

digster wrote:

stip wrote:

digster wrote:

stip wrote:
If I ever got to ask the band a question in an interview I would love to know how the proliferation of side projects impacts the band. Are the side projects a response to an inactive pearl jam? Or does it reflect poor scheduling and/or a desire to not step on other people's toes. Do these feed off each other?

i.e.--they lose matt for a while for soundgarden, so eddie releases his uke album and prepares to go on tour. Matt is back but eddie got hurt so he has to delay his tour. While that is happening Stone records some stuff. Eddie is good to go but do they pull the plug on whatever stone is doing. Pearl jam is more important, but who is going to be the dick who says 'you don't get to do your solo thing because everyone else is ready to go.'

I'd like to hope it is that.

I don't know about this; to use Jeff as an example (simply because he seems to, overall, be the guy working the most)...he gets tired of PJ sitting on its' ass for the third year running and gets some stuff together to work on. If I was him, I'm not sure how kindly I'd take to being told that that has to shut down cause the other four members of the band finally got their act together. And even though I'd prefer more PJ, I think he'd be perfectly justified in saying no way to that idea.

Aren't we agreeing with each other here?

Unless I'm reading wrong (very possible), I don't think Jeff or whoever should be in a position where they have to drop whatever they're doing, something that they may be inspired by, because it took Pearl Jam so long to get off its' ass. Selfishly, I guess I'd want that to happen because none of the side projects have really bowled me over, but looking at it from any individual member of the band's perspective, I'd be pretty pissed if I was expected to curtail what I was doing because everyone else decided to stop being lazy.

that was my point. I wouldn't be surprised if one of the reasons why this took so long was because of people starting these projects during downtime and the side projects getting in the way of everyone working on pearl jam because no one really wants to say 'stop doing your own thing' right now.

I'm sure they do have that respect for each other. At the same time I would hope they would get excited and be willing to shelve those projects to work together as Pearl Jam. After 20+ years I'm sure it's a struggle, especially considering there has always been tension within the group to some degree or another.

durdencommatyler wrote:

PJMosquito wrote:Pearl Jam- Tides (Release Date: October 8th, 2013)

1. Revolution Reruns (3:36)
2. Kickstop (2:14)
3. Vivid Futures (3:58)
4. Mind Your Manners (3:08)
5. The Undertow (4:04)
6. Red (3:23)
7. Of The Earth (6:15)
8. Tracking Change (4:21)
9. Uncharted Terrain (3:59)
10. Foliage (2:16)
11. Derision (3:32)
12. Sans Finis (7:12)

Oh, okay, good.

Thejambi wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

PJMosquito wrote:Pearl Jam- Tides (Release Date: October 8th, 2013)

1. Revolution Reruns (3:36)
2. Kickstop (2:14)
3. Vivid Futures (3:58)
4. Mind Your Manners (3:08)
5. The Undertow (4:04)
6. Red (3:23)
7. Of The Earth (6:15)
8. Tracking Change (4:21)
9. Uncharted Terrain (3:59)
10. Foliage (2:16)
11. Derision (3:32)
12. Sans Finis (7:12)

Oh, okay, good.

If its a first post, On RM , quoted and then deleted its gotta be true!

durdencommatyler wrote:

SpectorHD wrote:All the sideprojects wouldnt be so frustrating if they were good.

This guy does not bayleaf.

Thejambi wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

PJMosquito wrote:Pearl Jam- Tides (Release Date: October 8th, 2013)

1. Revolution Reruns (3:36)
2. Kickstop (2:14)
3. Vivid Futures (3:58)
4. Mind Your Manners (3:08)
5. The Undertow (4:04)
6. Red (3:23)
7. Of The Earth (6:15)
8. Tracking Change (4:21)
9. Uncharted Terrain (3:59)
10. Foliage (2:16)
11. Derision (3:32)
12. Sans Finis (7:12)

Oh, okay, good.

If its a first post, On RM , quoted and then deleted its gotta be true!

durdencommatyler wrote: My thoughts exactly! We can FINALLY put all this nasty speculation to bed.

harmless wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

SpectorHD wrote:All the sideprojects wouldnt be so frustrating if they were good.

This guy does not bayleaf.

I'm with Spector here. Bayleaf is OK but it's brought up every time someone says that the side projects leave something to be desired. Bayleaf is one album, hardly the majority of PJ's side project output.

Hatfield wrote:

PJMosquito wrote:Pearl Jam- Tides (Release Date: October 8th, 2013)

1. Revolution Reruns (3:36)
2. Kickstop (2:14)
3. Vivid Futures (3:58)
4. Mind Your Manners (3:08)
5. The Undertow (4:04)
6. Red (3:23)
7. Of The Earth (6:15)
8. Tracking Change (4:21)
9. Uncharted Terrain (3:59)
10. Foliage (2:16)
11. Derision (3:32)
12. Sans Finis (7:12)

Looks legit to me

Thejambi wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

PJMosquito wrote:Pearl Jam- Tides (Release Date: October 8th, 2013)

1. Revolution Reruns (3:36)
2. Kickstop (2:14)
3. Vivid Futures (3:58)
4. Mind Your Manners (3:08)
5. The Undertow (4:04)
6. Red (3:23)
7. Of The Earth (6:15)
8. Tracking Change (4:21)
9. Uncharted Terrain (3:59)
10. Foliage (2:16)
11. Derision (3:32)
12. Sans Finis (7:12)

Oh, okay, good.

If its a first post, On RM , quoted and then deleted its gotta be true!

bodysnatcher wrote:

Thejambi wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

PJMosquito wrote:Pearl Jam- Tides (Release Date: October 8th, 2013)

1. Revolution Reruns (3:36)
2. Kickstop (2:14)
3. Vivid Futures (3:58)
4. Mind Your Manners (3:08)
5. The Undertow (4:04)
6. Red (3:23)
7. Of The Earth (6:15)
8. Tracking Change (4:21)
9. Uncharted Terrain (3:59)
10. Foliage (2:16)
11. Derision (3:32)
12. Sans Finis (7:12)

Oh, okay, good.

If its a first post, On RM , quoted and then deleted its gotta be true!

Is that legit? If so, some of the more interesting song titles they've come up with

Kevin Davis wrote:Scratch Mad Season from that list and I totally agree. That album just doesn't do much for me anymore.

durdencommatyler wrote:I'd also include Temple of the Dog on that list, if we think that technically counts (though, I'm not sure it should). Also, I've never heard anything by Brad, Tre Mts or RNDM. Scrolls is also the only Wellwater Conspiracy album I've heard.

E.H. Ruddock wrote:I'm so into everything Wellwater Conspiracy it's sickening.