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Re: Not worthy of a thread News

Posted: Thu August 08, 2019 6:02 pm
by PHATJ
Mickey wrote:
PHATJ wrote:Image
Probably not a good week to be looking to ol' Ronny for advice.
Just pretend Obama said it.

Re: Not worthy of a thread News

Posted: Thu August 08, 2019 6:06 pm
by Mickey
Hmm but he didn't and that's not how rhetoric works.

Re: Not worthy of a thread News

Posted: Thu August 08, 2019 6:27 pm
by PHATJ
Mickey wrote:Hmm but he didn't and that's not how rhetoric works.
That’s true. Personal responsibility is a difficult concept for lefties.

Re: Not worthy of a thread News

Posted: Thu August 08, 2019 6:31 pm
by verb_to_trust
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Re: Not worthy of a thread News

Posted: Thu August 08, 2019 6:38 pm
by washing machine
Clearly not all "lefties" shirk personal responsibility, but memes like this don't help the image:

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Also, clearly not all millennials are "lefties," but this theme does feel like it leans one way and not the other.

Re: Not worthy of a thread News

Posted: Thu August 08, 2019 6:40 pm
by verb_to_trust
washing machine wrote:Clearly not all "lefties" shirk personal responsibility, but memes like this don't help the image:

Image

Also, clearly not all millennials are "lefties," but this rhetoric does feel like it leans one way and not the other.
It's spot on imo only I was 17

Re: Not worthy of a thread News

Posted: Thu August 08, 2019 6:45 pm
by Rob
PHATJ wrote:
Mickey wrote:Hmm but he didn't and that's not how rhetoric works.
That’s true. Personal responsibility is a difficult concept for lefties.
It seems crazy to me that anyone might describe the last two plus years of right wing governance "responsible." Not saying you have said that in this thread, but the notion that the right understands what personal responsibility is all about better than the left is wrong. Whether it's guns, debt, the environment... no way, amigo.

Re: Not worthy of a thread News

Posted: Thu August 08, 2019 6:52 pm
by Mickey
PHATJ wrote:
Mickey wrote:Hmm but he didn't and that's not how rhetoric works.
That’s true. Personal responsibility is a difficult concept for lefties.
Sorry, imagining that Obama said this quote (which he didn't) is difficult for me because of...personal responsibility?

Re: Not worthy of a thread News

Posted: Thu August 08, 2019 6:53 pm
by Mickey
washing machine wrote:Clearly not all "lefties" shirk personal responsibility, but memes like this don't help the image:

Image

Also, clearly not all millennials are "lefties," but this theme does feel like it leans one way and not the other.
What exactly does this Twitter joke have to do with leftism, Reido?

Re: Not worthy of a thread News

Posted: Thu August 08, 2019 6:54 pm
by PHATJ
Mickey wrote:
PHATJ wrote:
Mickey wrote:Hmm but he didn't and that's not how rhetoric works.
That’s true. Personal responsibility is a difficult concept for lefties.
Sorry, imagining that Obama said this quote (which he didn't) is difficult for me because of...personal responsibility?
Would you feel better if it was a quote by JFK?

Re: Not worthy of a thread News

Posted: Thu August 08, 2019 7:05 pm
by McParadigm
Ronald Reagan gutted banking regulations that had been in place for 50 years, and the resulting risk-taking engaged in by banks eventually produced a savings and loan crisis that the entire country suffered for.

Maybe his simpleton views on personal responsibility don’t reflect the realities of the world.

Re: Not worthy of a thread News

Posted: Thu August 08, 2019 7:07 pm
by washing machine
Mickey wrote:
washing machine wrote:Clearly not all "lefties" shirk personal responsibility, but memes like this don't help the image:

Image

Also, clearly not all millennials are "lefties," but this theme does feel like it leans one way and not the other.
What exactly does this Twitter joke have to do with leftism, Reido?
Contained within the joke is a deflection of personal responsibility, which is also a common criticism the right has of liberals who look to politicians and society to solve their problems.

Re: Not worthy of a thread News

Posted: Thu August 08, 2019 7:10 pm
by PHATJ
Mickey wrote:
PHATJ wrote:
Mickey wrote:Hmm but he didn't and that's not how rhetoric works.
That’s true. Personal responsibility is a difficult concept for lefties.
Sorry, imagining that Obama said this quote (which he didn't) is difficult for me because of...personal responsibility?
It is difficult imagining Obama saying that each person is accountable for their own actions. I’m sure he’d rather try to blame specific group(s) (ie: all gun owners, or white men, or conservatives, or whatever) than admit that sometimes people are just bad/crazy and do terrible things and it is no one else’s responsibility but their own.

Re: Not worthy of a thread News

Posted: Thu August 08, 2019 7:12 pm
by washing machine
PHATJ wrote:
Mickey wrote:
PHATJ wrote:
Mickey wrote:Hmm but he didn't and that's not how rhetoric works.
That’s true. Personal responsibility is a difficult concept for lefties.
Sorry, imagining that Obama said this quote (which he didn't) is difficult for me because of...personal responsibility?
It is difficult imagining Obama saying that each person is accountable for their own actions. I’m sure he’d rather try to blame specific group(s) (ie: all gun owners, or white men, or conservatives, or whatever) than admit that sometimes people are just bad/crazy and do terrible things and it is no one else’s responsibility but their own.
It was in his first inauguration speech...
What is demanded, then, is a return to these truths. What is required of us now is a new era of responsibility -- a recognition on the part of every American that we have duties to ourselves, our nation and the world; duties that we do not grudgingly accept, but rather seize gladly, firm in the knowledge that there is nothing so satisfying to the spirit, so defining of our character than giving our all to a difficult task.

This is the price and the promise of citizenship. This is the source of our confidence -- the knowledge that God calls on us to shape an uncertain destiny. This is the meaning of our liberty and our creed, why men and women and children of every race and every faith can join in celebration across this magnificent mall; and why a man whose father less than 60 years ago might not have been served in a local restaurant can now stand before you to take a most sacred oath.

Re: Not worthy of a thread News

Posted: Thu August 08, 2019 7:16 pm
by PHATJ
washing machine wrote:
PHATJ wrote:
Mickey wrote:
PHATJ wrote:
Mickey wrote:Hmm but he didn't and that's not how rhetoric works.
That’s true. Personal responsibility is a difficult concept for lefties.
Sorry, imagining that Obama said this quote (which he didn't) is difficult for me because of...personal responsibility?
It is difficult imagining Obama saying that each person is accountable for their own actions. I’m sure he’d rather try to blame specific group(s) (ie: all gun owners, or white men, or conservatives, or whatever) than admit that sometimes people are just bad/crazy and do terrible things and it is no one else’s responsibility but their own.
It was in his first inauguration speech...
What is demanded, then, is a return to these truths. What is required of us now is a new era of responsibility -- a recognition on the part of every American that we have duties to ourselves, our nation and the world; duties that we do not grudgingly accept, but rather seize gladly, firm in the knowledge that there is nothing so satisfying to the spirit, so defining of our character than giving our all to a difficult task.

This is the price and the promise of citizenship. This is the source of our confidence -- the knowledge that God calls on us to shape an uncertain destiny. This is the meaning of our liberty and our creed, why men and women and children of every race and every faith can join in celebration across this magnificent mall; and why a man whose father less than 60 years ago might not have been served in a local restaurant can now stand before you to take a most sacred oath.
And then he spent 8 years not following his own advice.

Re: Not worthy of a thread News

Posted: Thu August 08, 2019 7:17 pm
by Rob
Obama talking to school kids while president
“But at the end of the day, we can have the most dedicated teachers, the most supportive parents and the best schools in the world – and none of it will matter unless all of you fulfill your responsibilities. Unless you show up to those schools, pay attention to those teachers, listen to your parents, grandparents and other adults and put in the hard work it takes to succeed.”

“And that’s what I want to focus on today: the responsibility each of you has for your education, I want to start with the responsibility you have to yourself.”

“The circumstances of your life – what you look like, where you come from, how much money you have, what you’ve got going on at home – that’s no excuse for neglecting you homework or having a bad attitude. That’s no excuse for talking back to your teacher, or cutting class, or dropping out of school. That’s no excuse for not trying.”

“Whatever you resolve to do, I want you to commit to it. I want you to really work at it.”

“But the truth is, being successful is hard…You won’t necessarily succeed at everything the first time you try. That’s OK. Some of the most successful people in the world are the ones who’ve had the most failures…These people succeeded because they understand that you can’t let your failures define you – you have to let them teach you.”

Re: Not worthy of a thread News

Posted: Thu August 08, 2019 7:26 pm
by washing machine
But literally nothing got better after 9/11

Re: Not worthy of a thread News

Posted: Thu August 08, 2019 7:31 pm
by epilogue
Mickey wrote:Hmm but he didn't and that's not how rhetoric works.
:heartbeat:

Re: Not worthy of a thread News

Posted: Thu August 08, 2019 7:35 pm
by epilogue
PHATJ wrote:
Mickey wrote:Hmm but he didn't and that's not how rhetoric works.
That’s true. Personal responsibility is a difficult concept for lefties.
:shake:

Jesus you right wingers are fucking idiots.

Re: Not worthy of a thread News

Posted: Thu August 08, 2019 7:36 pm
by epilogue
Mickey wrote:
PHATJ wrote:
Mickey wrote:Hmm but he didn't and that's not how rhetoric works.
That’s true. Personal responsibility is a difficult concept for lefties.
Sorry, imagining that Obama said this quote (which he didn't) is difficult for me because of...personal responsibility?
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