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Re: Rogue One: A Star Wars Story

Posted: Wed December 21, 2016 10:25 pm
by epilogue
dimejinky99 wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:OH! Also, I forgot to say in my run down earlier that I loved LOVED the score. Far superior to TFA score, I thought.

I haven't sat down with it but from watching it it didn't work for me.
A lot of people have shared your opinion here. There's just something about the wavelength that Giacchino operates on that GETS me. His music always resonates with me. And I just loved how the music enhanced the movie but never pulled me out or made me focus on it first. And there are some stretches that rival some of my favorite Star Wars music. But I'm in the minority based on what I've been reading today.

Re: Rogue One: A Star Wars Story

Posted: Wed December 21, 2016 10:26 pm
by epilogue
dimejinky99 wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:Also DcT you probably missed my post but the story and Star Wars guy is putting his rogue one podcast up on Friday.
:bammer:

I did see that, yeah. Super excited about that. I wish he'd go back and do The Force Awakens though. He kept saying he'd revisit it and expand his thoughts with some distance.

He went a fair distance on it though.


Million dollar question. Can you see yourself watching rogue one as often as you'd watch other Star Wars films?
That's difficult to answer. My instinct is yes. But it's also a very emotional film and less.... I don't know... fun than some of the others. Difficult to say right now. I'll see it again in theaters and maybe I'll have a better understanding/answer for you. Let's see what the replay value is like on the first rewatch.

Re: Rogue One: A Star Wars Story

Posted: Wed December 21, 2016 10:27 pm
by stip
Other than the opening score I rarely and focus on the music the first watch through a movie. It was fine. I didn't find myself missing John Williams, so at worst the music did what it needed to do.

Re: Rogue One: A Star Wars Story

Posted: Wed December 21, 2016 10:28 pm
by epilogue
stip wrote:he has two FA episodes. Are you asking for a third?
Maybe I haven't heard the second episode... ? I'll have to go back and look at that. My memory is that he talks a great deal about it but keeps saying it'll be worth revisiting when he's seen it a few more times and when some time has passed and we have a greater context. Maybe I'm imagining that?

Re: Rogue One: A Star Wars Story

Posted: Wed December 21, 2016 10:29 pm
by stip
durdencommatyler wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:Also DcT you probably missed my post but the story and Star Wars guy is putting his rogue one podcast up on Friday.
:bammer:

I did see that, yeah. Super excited about that. I wish he'd go back and do The Force Awakens though. He kept saying he'd revisit it and expand his thoughts with some distance.

He went a fair distance on it though.


Million dollar question. Can you see yourself watching rogue one as often as you'd watch other Star Wars films?
That's difficult to answer. My instinct is yes. But it's also a very emotional film and less.... I don't know... fun than some of the others. Difficult to say right now. I'll see it again in theaters and maybe I'll have a better understanding/answer for you. Let's see what the replay value is like on the first rewatch.
The real factor is the first watch at home under TV/Computer viewing conditions.

Clearly this is a quality star wars film. Regardless of where it ranks compared to the OT/TFA it clearly is a well made, enjoyable film that adds to the universe, and still a huge leap ahead of the prequel trilogy.

Re: Rogue One: A Star Wars Story

Posted: Wed December 21, 2016 10:32 pm
by stip
durdencommatyler wrote:
stip wrote:he has two FA episodes. Are you asking for a third?
Maybe I haven't heard the second episode... ? I'll have to go back and look at that. My memory is that he talks a great deal about it but keeps saying it'll be worth revisiting when he's seen it a few more times and when some time has passed and we have a greater context. Maybe I'm imagining that?
No, he did say that. It's just that he went and actually did the second podcast :)

unless he said that in the second, promising a third?

That reminds me I still haven't listened to his pre-quel podcasts

Re: Rogue One: A Star Wars Story

Posted: Wed December 21, 2016 10:33 pm
by dimejinky99
We can all agree on that.

Re: Rogue One: A Star Wars Story

Posted: Wed December 21, 2016 10:38 pm
by epilogue
stip wrote:Clearly this is a quality star wars film. Regardless of where it ranks compared to the OT/TFA it clearly is a well made, enjoyable film that adds to the universe, and still a huge leap ahead of the prequel trilogy.
That it is. No question.

Re: Rogue One: A Star Wars Story

Posted: Wed December 21, 2016 10:47 pm
by dimejinky99
stip wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
stip wrote:he has two FA episodes. Are you asking for a third?
Maybe I haven't heard the second episode... ? I'll have to go back and look at that. My memory is that he talks a great deal about it but keeps saying it'll be worth revisiting when he's seen it a few more times and when some time has passed and we have a greater context. Maybe I'm imagining that?
No, he did say that. It's just that he went and actually did the second podcast :)

unless he said that in the second, promising a third?

That reminds me I still haven't listened to his pre-quel podcasts


I've listened to a few of his other podcasts. Lightbulb I think it was called. Thought provoking stuff. But I love his voice mainly :) it's grandfatherly of senatorial but warm. Or something.

Re: Rogue One: A Star Wars Story

Posted: Wed December 21, 2016 11:52 pm
by epilogue
dimejinky99 wrote:
stip wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
stip wrote:he has two FA episodes. Are you asking for a third?
Maybe I haven't heard the second episode... ? I'll have to go back and look at that. My memory is that he talks a great deal about it but keeps saying it'll be worth revisiting when he's seen it a few more times and when some time has passed and we have a greater context. Maybe I'm imagining that?
No, he did say that. It's just that he went and actually did the second podcast :)

unless he said that in the second, promising a third?

That reminds me I still haven't listened to his pre-quel podcasts


I've listened to a few of his other podcasts. Lightbulb I think it was called. Thought provoking stuff. But I love his voice mainly :) it's grandfatherly of senatorial but warm. Or something.
Yeah, I really enjoy his voice. Combined with his knowledge and insight, it's a knockout combo. Listening to his series on Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets now and really enjoying it.

Re: Rogue One: A Star Wars Story

Posted: Wed December 21, 2016 11:56 pm
by Strat
durdencommatyler wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:So joey
Spoiler: show
lets talk about THAT scene
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Which scene?

Cmon. Don't play hard to get
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the only scene well really remember from this film in top ten lists. VADER in the corridor
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:lol:

Yeah, it was pretty fucking cool. Not sure it's one of my top ten scenes in the movie, though. I'll have to think about that.

The handing off of the plans was fantastic: so tense and dramatic and even though I knew they'd succeed, I was actually worried they wouldn't. Like, to the point of physical nausea. I think that Vader specifically would have had more impact if we hadn't seen him previously (that first scene in Vader's castle (LOL!) on Mount Doom was so weird and had the only cringeworthy line in the movie for me). I would have loved the "Lord Vader will take care of them" line and all the other small seemingly throw away lines ABOUT Vader and then the first you see of him is that red light saber igniting. That would have been so fucking badass.

But, yeah, it was cool to see him move and cut folks down. Still, I was more interested in how the plans ended up with Leia than I was with Vader's violence. Still, a great scene, and a great cap to a phenomenal third act of the film.
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I think if he were to only appear in that last 2 minutes, it would have felt like fan service. I like that he was part of the story but never the story. I like that they had a small scene (even with cringeworthy line) with him earlier on.

Re: Rogue One: A Star Wars Story

Posted: Wed December 21, 2016 11:58 pm
by Strat
Guys, the score definitely had a lot of tie ins to the prequels. i wish i could hum it out for you but a lot of the music seemed to be similar to many scenes in the prequels. A couple notes and then it would switch. Just trust me.

Re: Rogue One: A Star Wars Story

Posted: Thu December 22, 2016 12:11 am
by dimejinky99
Strat wrote:Guys, the score definitely had a lot of tie ins to the prequels. i wish i could hum it out for you but a lot of the music seemed to be similar to many scenes in the prequels. A couple notes and then it would switch. Just trust me.

There's a podcast gets into all that.

Star Wars oxygen. David Collins. They have a map musically of all the Finns ruins and links Williams use throughout the films on different places. It's fascinating.


Funny you mention it cos there's a reprise of Jedi steps or Reys theme in R1

Re: Rogue One: A Star Wars Story

Posted: Thu December 22, 2016 12:13 am
by Strat
The more this movie has sat with me the more i really really am excited about it.

can't wait to get to the theater again. Maybe i wasn't all "best ever!" was because i wanted more of it. I dont know.

More Saw, more Krennick, More Gaelyn.

So great as is though...

Re: Rogue One: A Star Wars Story

Posted: Thu December 22, 2016 12:24 am
by Strat
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That one beautiful shot from the trailer when Jyn is limping towards the end of the platform and the big ship flys into her view....Im pretty certain that was not in the film. i loved that shot.

Re: Rogue One: A Star Wars Story

Posted: Thu December 22, 2016 12:25 am
by Strat
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and the first scene with Cassian when he kills the other rebel.....awesome.

Re: Rogue One: A Star Wars Story

Posted: Thu December 22, 2016 12:27 am
by dimejinky99
Watching it again.

The entire score on scariff during the ground and space attack is pure Williams.

Re: Rogue One: A Star Wars Story

Posted: Thu December 22, 2016 12:29 am
by epilogue
Strat wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:So joey
Spoiler: show
lets talk about THAT scene
Spoiler: show
Which scene?

Cmon. Don't play hard to get
Spoiler: show
the only scene well really remember from this film in top ten lists. VADER in the corridor
Spoiler: show
:lol:

Yeah, it was pretty fucking cool. Not sure it's one of my top ten scenes in the movie, though. I'll have to think about that.

The handing off of the plans was fantastic: so tense and dramatic and even though I knew they'd succeed, I was actually worried they wouldn't. Like, to the point of physical nausea. I think that Vader specifically would have had more impact if we hadn't seen him previously (that first scene in Vader's castle (LOL!) on Mount Doom was so weird and had the only cringeworthy line in the movie for me). I would have loved the "Lord Vader will take care of them" line and all the other small seemingly throw away lines ABOUT Vader and then the first you see of him is that red light saber igniting. That would have been so fucking badass.

But, yeah, it was cool to see him move and cut folks down. Still, I was more interested in how the plans ended up with Leia than I was with Vader's violence. Still, a great scene, and a great cap to a phenomenal third act of the film.
Spoiler: show
I think if he were to only appear in that last 2 minutes, it would have felt like fan service. I like that he was part of the story but never the story. I like that they had a small scene (even with cringeworthy line) with him earlier on.
Spoiler: show
Sure. I get that. You could be right. Just from a storytelling standpoint I don't think it would have come across as fan service. It would have felt earned, I think, because of the myth of Vader. But I hear you. You could be right. We'll never actually know, obviously, and I'm ultimately fine with all the Vader we got.

Re: Rogue One: A Star Wars Story

Posted: Thu December 22, 2016 12:30 am
by Strat
durdencommatyler wrote:
Strat wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:So joey
Spoiler: show
lets talk about THAT scene
Spoiler: show
Which scene?

Cmon. Don't play hard to get
Spoiler: show
the only scene well really remember from this film in top ten lists. VADER in the corridor
Spoiler: show
:lol:

Yeah, it was pretty fucking cool. Not sure it's one of my top ten scenes in the movie, though. I'll have to think about that.

The handing off of the plans was fantastic: so tense and dramatic and even though I knew they'd succeed, I was actually worried they wouldn't. Like, to the point of physical nausea. I think that Vader specifically would have had more impact if we hadn't seen him previously (that first scene in Vader's castle (LOL!) on Mount Doom was so weird and had the only cringeworthy line in the movie for me). I would have loved the "Lord Vader will take care of them" line and all the other small seemingly throw away lines ABOUT Vader and then the first you see of him is that red light saber igniting. That would have been so fucking badass.

But, yeah, it was cool to see him move and cut folks down. Still, I was more interested in how the plans ended up with Leia than I was with Vader's violence. Still, a great scene, and a great cap to a phenomenal third act of the film.
Spoiler: show
I think if he were to only appear in that last 2 minutes, it would have felt like fan service. I like that he was part of the story but never the story. I like that they had a small scene (even with cringeworthy line) with him earlier on.
Spoiler: show
Sure. I get that. You could be right. Just from a storytelling standpoint I don't think it would have come across as fan service. It would have felt earned, I think, because of the myth of Vader. But I hear you. You could be right. We'll never actually know, obviously, and I'm ultimately fine with all the Vader we got.

God I love you

Re: Rogue One: A Star Wars Story

Posted: Thu December 22, 2016 12:30 am
by dimejinky99
Stupid Star Wars problems.

'Locking the vault door now'
Big heavy door looks impenetrable locks.

Baddie gets in a lift to a door just above big locked door and walks in :lol:



But pure Star Wars :) love it:)