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Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Sun March 10, 2024 5:19 pm
by stip
even outlier artists sell far fewer, i believe. which makes sense


But I still assume one of, if not the, primary motivations around legacy acts who dont need help selling tickets (how you make money in an era of minimal sales of physical media) is excitement for people to hear/discover art you made that you are proud of and want to share. Especially (as a legacy artist) new music, which speaks to your vitality and relevance in a way that simply making what you want can’t.

As a fan, I feel excited knowing pearl jam topped a chart 26 years after Yield with a song I really like

Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Sun March 10, 2024 5:22 pm
by RockPusher
stip wrote:As a fan, I feel excited knowing pearl jam topped a chart 26 years after Yield with a song I really like
It’s kind of like seeing the team you root for make the playoffs.

Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Sun March 10, 2024 5:36 pm
by tragabigzanda
pearl jam sucks now

Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Sun March 10, 2024 5:38 pm
by Ms Harmless
Monkey_Driven wrote:Why would someone need to state that a post is "just their opinion"? Isn't that inferred with all posts?
absolutely, unless you're explicitly denying it and insulting the intelligence of anyone who feels differently; why is this so hard for people to understand?

this is music, not social justice

Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Sun March 10, 2024 5:38 pm
by McParadigm
bodysnatcher wrote:
Kevin Davis wrote:
RockPusher wrote:
Kevin Davis wrote:It also seems unlikely that a well-received lead single will lead to a record-buying surge, though perhaps at this point numbers that seemed immaterial in the ‘90’s are worth chasing.
I think due to the pandemic, Gigaton hardly sold anything, so the band might want to at least see what they can do releasing a record in a healthier market.
Is it true that Gigaton hardly sold anything, and is that a number directly traceable to the pandemic? And is it a healthier market for record sales now? Genuine questions all — I don’t pay much attention to the numbers.
Me either. But according to wiki:

— Backspacer: 189k copies sold in first week in US. Last update was 635k sold by 2013 (4 years after release).

— Lightning Bolt: 166k sold in first week in US. No updates

— Gigaton: 63k sold in first week in US. As of March 2024, it has totaled 172k sales, 4 years later. Of note, it has the second highest number of weekly units sold on vinyl (presuming release week)

Declining album sales, yet equally as difficult to buy a concert ticket.
Backspacer and Yield were both right around the 90 spot, on Billboard’s end of year sales chart for the year they came out. People were just buying a lot fewer records by 2009 (and hardly any, now).

Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Sun March 10, 2024 5:40 pm
by Ms Harmless
it's Trag's right to wave around any opinion he wants, and it's my right to pick holes in the way he does it

Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Sun March 10, 2024 5:40 pm
by tragabigzanda
pearl jam sucks now

Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Sun March 10, 2024 5:41 pm
by McParadigm
Monkey_Driven wrote:Why would someone need to state that a post is "just their opinion"? Isn't that inferred with all posts?
Of all the awful takes I’ve seen on RM, this is right at the top

Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Sun March 10, 2024 7:13 pm
by elliseamos
Hard to know if mcp is stating fact or opinion... Hmmm.

Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Sun March 10, 2024 7:16 pm
by Ms Harmless
birds are dinosaurs = opinion
birds aren't real = fact

Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Sun March 10, 2024 7:32 pm
by Ello Sailor
tragabigzanda wrote:Of all the awful takes I’ve seen on RM, this is right at the top
Nah, that's definitely you saying Moves Like Jagger is a masterpiece.

Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Sun March 10, 2024 7:33 pm
by Ello Sailor
I'm livid just thinking about it.

Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Sun March 10, 2024 7:37 pm
by Ms Harmless
that might be the only thing me and Trag agree on

Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Sun March 10, 2024 7:57 pm
by stip
tragabigzanda wrote:
RockPusher wrote:
stip wrote:As a fan, I feel excited knowing pearl jam topped a chart 26 years after Yield with a song I really like
It’s kind of like seeing the team you root for make the playoffs.
With the added benefit of leveraging their success to pull in new users from Reddit to drive more sales of your book
My diabolical plan moves inexorably to its conclusion.

Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Sun March 10, 2024 8:04 pm
by Ello Sailor
Ms Harmless wrote:that might be the only thing me and Trag agree on
You two should fight to the death over Matt Cameron's drum sound, then we can ban the victor.

Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Sun March 10, 2024 8:05 pm
by Ello Sailor
The Moves Like Jagger is a Masterpiece bloodline must end.

Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Sun March 10, 2024 8:12 pm
by tragabigzanda
pearl jam sucks now

Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Sun March 10, 2024 8:13 pm
by Ello Sailor
I guarantee your daughter has more sense than to call that shit a masterpiece.

Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Sun March 10, 2024 8:20 pm
by Ms Harmless
nobody wanted to know about your seed Trag

Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Sun March 10, 2024 8:21 pm
by stip
someone may have