Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Wed May 10, 2017 9:00 pm
Me for onecutuphalfdead wrote:Who's arguing that the President should't have this power?
Me for onecutuphalfdead wrote:Who's arguing that the President should't have this power?
You mean the hypocrisy in your head because she's not president and therefore we have no idea what she would have done?BurtReynolds wrote:Many on the Left were calling for his firing because of his continuing investigation of Hillary, and they would have had no problem with her replacing him if she won (there would never be any hyperbolic "BUT MUH DEMOCRACY!!!" headlines), even if he continued to investigate her. The hypocrisy is blindingly obvious.digster wrote:In terms of the legal ramifications, this is an important designation. In terms of potential political fallout, I'm not sure Trump is making that differentiation, nor, honestly, should he. My argument isn't about Trump being culpable or not; there's been no evidence made public as of yet to suggest he colluded. My argument's more for anyone who would say this is not about the investigation, which I just think is beyond rational.Bi_3 wrote:Comey was investigating individuals related to Gen. Flynn, Flynn himself, and other Trump campaign staffers. I don't recall anyone saying Trump was under investigation by the FBI. I think we all just assume its happening.digster wrote:There's a slight difference between resigning and being fired by the guy you're investigating because you're investigating him.
Death of democracy... Lol... This is democracy. Horrible, horrible democracy. Of course he's covering his ass.
There would be a lot less to fear from a Trump if people just listened to me.cutuphalfdead wrote:yeah well you don't think a central government should have any power, so i'm not sure what to take from that
It's really the only reason I wish Hillary would have won.bune wrote:You mean the hypocrisy in your head because she's not president and therefore we have no idea what she would have done?BurtReynolds wrote:Many on the Left were calling for his firing because of his continuing investigation of Hillary, and they would have had no problem with her replacing him if she won (there would never be any hyperbolic "BUT MUH DEMOCRACY!!!" headlines), even if he continued to investigate her. The hypocrisy is blindingly obvious.digster wrote:In terms of the legal ramifications, this is an important designation. In terms of potential political fallout, I'm not sure Trump is making that differentiation, nor, honestly, should he. My argument isn't about Trump being culpable or not; there's been no evidence made public as of yet to suggest he colluded. My argument's more for anyone who would say this is not about the investigation, which I just think is beyond rational.Bi_3 wrote:Comey was investigating individuals related to Gen. Flynn, Flynn himself, and other Trump campaign staffers. I don't recall anyone saying Trump was under investigation by the FBI. I think we all just assume its happening.digster wrote:There's a slight difference between resigning and being fired by the guy you're investigating because you're investigating him.
Death of democracy... Lol... This is democracy. Horrible, horrible democracy. Of course he's covering his ass.
I'm more convinced you're a shitty human being the more I read your posts in news and debate. I should just stop, because I like you otherwise.BurtReynolds wrote:It's really the only reason I wish Hillary would have won.bune wrote:You mean the hypocrisy in your head because she's not president and therefore we have no idea what she would have done?BurtReynolds wrote:Many on the Left were calling for his firing because of his continuing investigation of Hillary, and they would have had no problem with her replacing him if she won (there would never be any hyperbolic "BUT MUH DEMOCRACY!!!" headlines), even if he continued to investigate her. The hypocrisy is blindingly obvious.digster wrote:In terms of the legal ramifications, this is an important designation. In terms of potential political fallout, I'm not sure Trump is making that differentiation, nor, honestly, should he. My argument isn't about Trump being culpable or not; there's been no evidence made public as of yet to suggest he colluded. My argument's more for anyone who would say this is not about the investigation, which I just think is beyond rational.Bi_3 wrote:Comey was investigating individuals related to Gen. Flynn, Flynn himself, and other Trump campaign staffers. I don't recall anyone saying Trump was under investigation by the FBI. I think we all just assume its happening.digster wrote:There's a slight difference between resigning and being fired by the guy you're investigating because you're investigating him.
Death of democracy... Lol... This is democracy. Horrible, horrible democracy. Of course he's covering his ass.
Don't worry, I'm not your real enemy.cutuphalfdead wrote:I'm more convinced you're a shitty human being the more I read your posts in news and debate. I should just stop, because I like you otherwise.BurtReynolds wrote:It's really the only reason I wish Hillary would have won.bune wrote:You mean the hypocrisy in your head because she's not president and therefore we have no idea what she would have done?BurtReynolds wrote:Many on the Left were calling for his firing because of his continuing investigation of Hillary, and they would have had no problem with her replacing him if she won (there would never be any hyperbolic "BUT MUH DEMOCRACY!!!" headlines), even if he continued to investigate her. The hypocrisy is blindingly obvious.digster wrote:In terms of the legal ramifications, this is an important designation. In terms of potential political fallout, I'm not sure Trump is making that differentiation, nor, honestly, should he. My argument isn't about Trump being culpable or not; there's been no evidence made public as of yet to suggest he colluded. My argument's more for anyone who would say this is not about the investigation, which I just think is beyond rational.Bi_3 wrote:Comey was investigating individuals related to Gen. Flynn, Flynn himself, and other Trump campaign staffers. I don't recall anyone saying Trump was under investigation by the FBI. I think we all just assume its happening.digster wrote:There's a slight difference between resigning and being fired by the guy you're investigating because you're investigating him.
Death of democracy... Lol... This is democracy. Horrible, horrible democracy. Of course he's covering his ass.
BurtReynolds wrote:Don't worry, I'm not your real enemy.cutuphalfdead wrote:I'm more convinced you're a shitty human being the more I read your posts in news and debate. I should just stop, because I like you otherwise.BurtReynolds wrote:It's really the only reason I wish Hillary would have won.bune wrote:You mean the hypocrisy in your head because she's not president and therefore we have no idea what she would have done?BurtReynolds wrote:Many on the Left were calling for his firing because of his continuing investigation of Hillary, and they would have had no problem with her replacing him if she won (there would never be any hyperbolic "BUT MUH DEMOCRACY!!!" headlines), even if he continued to investigate her. The hypocrisy is blindingly obvious.digster wrote:In terms of the legal ramifications, this is an important designation. In terms of potential political fallout, I'm not sure Trump is making that differentiation, nor, honestly, should he. My argument isn't about Trump being culpable or not; there's been no evidence made public as of yet to suggest he colluded. My argument's more for anyone who would say this is not about the investigation, which I just think is beyond rational.Bi_3 wrote:Comey was investigating individuals related to Gen. Flynn, Flynn himself, and other Trump campaign staffers. I don't recall anyone saying Trump was under investigation by the FBI. I think we all just assume its happening.digster wrote:There's a slight difference between resigning and being fired by the guy you're investigating because you're investigating him.
Death of democracy... Lol... This is democracy. Horrible, horrible democracy. Of course he's covering his ass.
This would be the most boring thread on RM if it weren't for me.
This is such a crucial point, it deserves to not get buried by retweets and silly ad hominem attacks on other RMers. If it ends up that Trump is a puppet of Putin and not just a useful idiot of the corporate class, that is nothing compared to lasting damage and distrust that the last 18 months has wrecked in the US. That is Putin's real victory here.meatwad wrote:I think Russia's goals were far bigger than this. They wanted to sow distrust in our very institutions and undermine American democracy. They seem to be succeeding.BurtReynolds wrote:Russia didn't install a puppet leader on the US throne for christ's sake.
I'm so curious as to what he thinks about the Trump era. I could see him going either way on him.BurtReynolds wrote:Make this thread great again.
Where's Littlewing?
I think he's a huge trump supporter, how could he not be?Green Habit wrote:I'm so curious as to what he thinks about the Trump era. I could see him going either way on him.BurtReynolds wrote:Make this thread great again.
Where's Littlewing?
BurtReynolds wrote:We need to find him and ask.
Holy shit, that's fuckin' funny dude. Well done!Simple Torture wrote:BurtReynolds wrote:We need to find him and ask.
http://forums.theskyiscrape.com/viewtop ... 85#p673185
On the one hand, I believe he came from a poor white family, typical with Trump supporters. But on the other hand he's also very educated, which goes against the Trump grain, and from that kept a fairly doctrinaire conservative standpoint that Trump has always held in some disdain. LW I think would fit the profile of a Freedom Caucuser better than a Trumpist. Then again, LW never did get it when it came to women. I'm guessing he would have tried to dismiss attacks against the "grab 'em by the pussy" comment.malice wrote:I think he's a huge trump supporter, how could he not be?Green Habit wrote:I'm so curious as to what he thinks about the Trump era. I could see him going either way on him.BurtReynolds wrote:Make this thread great again.
Where's Littlewing?