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Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Wed May 10, 2017 9:00 pm
by BurtReynolds
cutuphalfdead wrote:Who's arguing that the President should't have this power?
Me for one

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Wed May 10, 2017 9:01 pm
by BurtReynolds
Or he should and people shouldn't be shocked when he uses it for his own benefit.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Wed May 10, 2017 9:01 pm
by Norah
yeah well you don't think a central government should have any power, so i'm not sure what to take from that

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Wed May 10, 2017 9:02 pm
by bune
BurtReynolds wrote:
digster wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:
digster wrote:There's a slight difference between resigning and being fired by the guy you're investigating because you're investigating him.
Comey was investigating individuals related to Gen. Flynn, Flynn himself, and other Trump campaign staffers. I don't recall anyone saying Trump was under investigation by the FBI. I think we all just assume its happening.
In terms of the legal ramifications, this is an important designation. In terms of potential political fallout, I'm not sure Trump is making that differentiation, nor, honestly, should he. My argument isn't about Trump being culpable or not; there's been no evidence made public as of yet to suggest he colluded. My argument's more for anyone who would say this is not about the investigation, which I just think is beyond rational.
Many on the Left were calling for his firing because of his continuing investigation of Hillary, and they would have had no problem with her replacing him if she won (there would never be any hyperbolic "BUT MUH DEMOCRACY!!!" headlines), even if he continued to investigate her. The hypocrisy is blindingly obvious.

Death of democracy... Lol... This is democracy. Horrible, horrible democracy. Of course he's covering his ass.
You mean the hypocrisy in your head because she's not president and therefore we have no idea what she would have done?

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Wed May 10, 2017 9:04 pm
by BurtReynolds
cutuphalfdead wrote:yeah well you don't think a central government should have any power, so i'm not sure what to take from that
There would be a lot less to fear from a Trump if people just listened to me.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Wed May 10, 2017 9:06 pm
by BurtReynolds
bune wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:
digster wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:
digster wrote:There's a slight difference between resigning and being fired by the guy you're investigating because you're investigating him.
Comey was investigating individuals related to Gen. Flynn, Flynn himself, and other Trump campaign staffers. I don't recall anyone saying Trump was under investigation by the FBI. I think we all just assume its happening.
In terms of the legal ramifications, this is an important designation. In terms of potential political fallout, I'm not sure Trump is making that differentiation, nor, honestly, should he. My argument isn't about Trump being culpable or not; there's been no evidence made public as of yet to suggest he colluded. My argument's more for anyone who would say this is not about the investigation, which I just think is beyond rational.
Many on the Left were calling for his firing because of his continuing investigation of Hillary, and they would have had no problem with her replacing him if she won (there would never be any hyperbolic "BUT MUH DEMOCRACY!!!" headlines), even if he continued to investigate her. The hypocrisy is blindingly obvious.

Death of democracy... Lol... This is democracy. Horrible, horrible democracy. Of course he's covering his ass.
You mean the hypocrisy in your head because she's not president and therefore we have no idea what she would have done?
It's really the only reason I wish Hillary would have won.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Wed May 10, 2017 9:07 pm
by Norah
BurtReynolds wrote:
bune wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:
digster wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:
digster wrote:There's a slight difference between resigning and being fired by the guy you're investigating because you're investigating him.
Comey was investigating individuals related to Gen. Flynn, Flynn himself, and other Trump campaign staffers. I don't recall anyone saying Trump was under investigation by the FBI. I think we all just assume its happening.
In terms of the legal ramifications, this is an important designation. In terms of potential political fallout, I'm not sure Trump is making that differentiation, nor, honestly, should he. My argument isn't about Trump being culpable or not; there's been no evidence made public as of yet to suggest he colluded. My argument's more for anyone who would say this is not about the investigation, which I just think is beyond rational.
Many on the Left were calling for his firing because of his continuing investigation of Hillary, and they would have had no problem with her replacing him if she won (there would never be any hyperbolic "BUT MUH DEMOCRACY!!!" headlines), even if he continued to investigate her. The hypocrisy is blindingly obvious.

Death of democracy... Lol... This is democracy. Horrible, horrible democracy. Of course he's covering his ass.
You mean the hypocrisy in your head because she's not president and therefore we have no idea what she would have done?
It's really the only reason I wish Hillary would have won.
I'm more convinced you're a shitty human being the more I read your posts in news and debate. I should just stop, because I like you otherwise.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Wed May 10, 2017 9:10 pm
by BurtReynolds
cutuphalfdead wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:
bune wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:
digster wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:
digster wrote:There's a slight difference between resigning and being fired by the guy you're investigating because you're investigating him.
Comey was investigating individuals related to Gen. Flynn, Flynn himself, and other Trump campaign staffers. I don't recall anyone saying Trump was under investigation by the FBI. I think we all just assume its happening.
In terms of the legal ramifications, this is an important designation. In terms of potential political fallout, I'm not sure Trump is making that differentiation, nor, honestly, should he. My argument isn't about Trump being culpable or not; there's been no evidence made public as of yet to suggest he colluded. My argument's more for anyone who would say this is not about the investigation, which I just think is beyond rational.
Many on the Left were calling for his firing because of his continuing investigation of Hillary, and they would have had no problem with her replacing him if she won (there would never be any hyperbolic "BUT MUH DEMOCRACY!!!" headlines), even if he continued to investigate her. The hypocrisy is blindingly obvious.

Death of democracy... Lol... This is democracy. Horrible, horrible democracy. Of course he's covering his ass.
You mean the hypocrisy in your head because she's not president and therefore we have no idea what she would have done?
It's really the only reason I wish Hillary would have won.
I'm more convinced you're a shitty human being the more I read your posts in news and debate. I should just stop, because I like you otherwise.
Don't worry, I'm not your real enemy.

This would be the most boring thread on RM if it weren't for me.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Wed May 10, 2017 9:42 pm
by jwfocker
BurtReynolds wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:
bune wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:
digster wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:
digster wrote:There's a slight difference between resigning and being fired by the guy you're investigating because you're investigating him.
Comey was investigating individuals related to Gen. Flynn, Flynn himself, and other Trump campaign staffers. I don't recall anyone saying Trump was under investigation by the FBI. I think we all just assume its happening.
In terms of the legal ramifications, this is an important designation. In terms of potential political fallout, I'm not sure Trump is making that differentiation, nor, honestly, should he. My argument isn't about Trump being culpable or not; there's been no evidence made public as of yet to suggest he colluded. My argument's more for anyone who would say this is not about the investigation, which I just think is beyond rational.
Many on the Left were calling for his firing because of his continuing investigation of Hillary, and they would have had no problem with her replacing him if she won (there would never be any hyperbolic "BUT MUH DEMOCRACY!!!" headlines), even if he continued to investigate her. The hypocrisy is blindingly obvious.

Death of democracy... Lol... This is democracy. Horrible, horrible democracy. Of course he's covering his ass.
You mean the hypocrisy in your head because she's not president and therefore we have no idea what she would have done?
It's really the only reason I wish Hillary would have won.
I'm more convinced you're a shitty human being the more I read your posts in news and debate. I should just stop, because I like you otherwise.
Don't worry, I'm not your real enemy.

This would be the most boring thread on RM if it weren't for me.

The arrogance. Sad.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Wed May 10, 2017 9:45 pm
by BurtReynolds
Make this thread great again.

Where's Littlewing?

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Wed May 10, 2017 10:49 pm
by wease
http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/10/politics/ ... index.html

I hope Anderson got the blowjob of his life last night.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Wed May 10, 2017 11:03 pm
by Bi_3
meatwad wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:Russia didn't install a puppet leader on the US throne for christ's sake.
I think Russia's goals were far bigger than this. They wanted to sow distrust in our very institutions and undermine American democracy. They seem to be succeeding.
This is such a crucial point, it deserves to not get buried by retweets and silly ad hominem attacks on other RMers. If it ends up that Trump is a puppet of Putin and not just a useful idiot of the corporate class, that is nothing compared to lasting damage and distrust that the last 18 months has wrecked in the US. That is Putin's real victory here.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Wed May 10, 2017 11:16 pm
by BurtReynolds
It's a frightening thing to get woke to the horrifying reality of national and international politics, but necessary. Thanks for all you do, Vladimir.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Wed May 10, 2017 11:19 pm
by Green Habit
BurtReynolds wrote:Make this thread great again.

Where's Littlewing?
I'm so curious as to what he thinks about the Trump era. I could see him going either way on him.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Wed May 10, 2017 11:44 pm
by malice
Green Habit wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:Make this thread great again.

Where's Littlewing?
I'm so curious as to what he thinks about the Trump era. I could see him going either way on him.
I think he's a huge trump supporter, how could he not be?

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Wed May 10, 2017 11:50 pm
by BurtReynolds
We need to find him and ask.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Thu May 11, 2017 12:06 am
by Simple Torture
BurtReynolds wrote:We need to find him and ask.

http://forums.theskyiscrape.com/viewtop ... 85#p673185

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Thu May 11, 2017 12:10 am
by Superblood Wolfmoon
Simple Torture wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:We need to find him and ask.

http://forums.theskyiscrape.com/viewtop ... 85#p673185
Holy shit, that's fuckin' funny dude. Well done! :lol:

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Thu May 11, 2017 12:38 am
by 96583UP
This isn't a Большая сделка. Everyone just needs to расслабиться

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Thu May 11, 2017 12:39 am
by Green Habit
malice wrote:
Green Habit wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:Make this thread great again.

Where's Littlewing?
I'm so curious as to what he thinks about the Trump era. I could see him going either way on him.
I think he's a huge trump supporter, how could he not be?
On the one hand, I believe he came from a poor white family, typical with Trump supporters. But on the other hand he's also very educated, which goes against the Trump grain, and from that kept a fairly doctrinaire conservative standpoint that Trump has always held in some disdain. LW I think would fit the profile of a Freedom Caucuser better than a Trumpist. Then again, LW never did get it when it came to women. I'm guessing he would have tried to dismiss attacks against the "grab 'em by the pussy" comment.

So yeah, I can see both sides. I should probably go back and read some of his comments.