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Re: Post Random Pearl Jam-Related Thoughts You Have

Posted: Wed July 05, 2023 3:32 pm
by liebzz
Matters wrote:
liebzz wrote:I mean the discussion is of course ridiculous because it excludes individual artists and then plays this game where bands are eliminated because the name of the singer is up front. Dylan out despite playing with a number of bands over the years because. Bruce out because he was the driving force behind his band and his name is up front (basically same with Pearl Jam for 30 of the 32 years they existed but we’ll count them because they are not called Eddie and the Pearl Jams).
What Bob Dylan band ranks amongst the best American bands ever?
You could argue The Band, whose recording output was in upstate New York and who also recorded there while Dylan was holed up after his motorcycle accident.

I do think more attention should be placed on the Grateful Dead as the greatest American band. They lead an entire musical movement out of San Francisco in the mid to late 60s, a movement that has evolved and been reshaped both with the remaining living members and in other bands who have taken slices of their sound and built entire careers around them - some of which still fill arenas and stadiums in the US regularly. While they don’t have an extensive list of #1 hits, many of their songs are baked (pun intended) into the consciousness of American music history. They’ve also spawned an unbelievably rich amount of bands who exist just to play their music, and recently had a music festival devoted to that (Skull & Roses in Ventura, CA).

Re: Post Random Pearl Jam-Related Thoughts You Have

Posted: Wed July 05, 2023 3:34 pm
by JuanHamm
lol

Re: Post Random Pearl Jam-Related Thoughts You Have

Posted: Wed July 05, 2023 5:15 pm
by Jorge
I just saw The Band in Rolling Stone's list of Greatest CANADIAN acts! How American do they have to be to qualify for this discussion?

Re: Post Random Pearl Jam-Related Thoughts You Have

Posted: Wed July 05, 2023 6:18 pm
by liebzz
The Band:

1) While many of the members were born in Canada, they primarily recorded their material in Woodstock, NY.

2) If 1 doesn’t apply, Canada is in North America, amirite?

Re: Post Random Pearl Jam-Related Thoughts You Have

Posted: Wed July 05, 2023 6:21 pm
by Jorge
In that case I nominate Vilma Palma E Vampiros for greatest American rock band

Re: Post Random Pearl Jam-Related Thoughts You Have

Posted: Wed July 05, 2023 7:47 pm
by liebzz
We are all citizens of this earth. Anything goes.

Re: Post Random Pearl Jam-Related Thoughts You Have

Posted: Wed July 05, 2023 7:51 pm
by VinylGuy
Jorge wrote:In that case I nominate Vilma Palma E Vampiros for greatest American rock band
fuck yeah

Re: Post Random Pearl Jam-Related Thoughts You Have

Posted: Wed July 05, 2023 8:13 pm
by Buby
VinylGuy wrote:
Jorge wrote:In that case I nominate Vilma Palma E Vampiros for greatest American rock band
fuck yeah
Brain:
♫ Déjame, déjame ♫

Re: Post Random Pearl Jam-Related Thoughts You Have

Posted: Wed July 05, 2023 8:13 pm
by VinylGuy
thats a great song

also

yo te pido por favor (No me busqués)

Re: Post Random Pearl Jam-Related Thoughts You Have

Posted: Wed July 05, 2023 8:28 pm
by bodysnatcher
I’d rather walk into oncoming traffic than continue reading this.

Re: Post Random Pearl Jam-Related Thoughts You Have

Posted: Wed July 05, 2023 9:05 pm
by Kevin Davis
Jorge wrote:I just saw The Band in Rolling Stone's list of Greatest CANADIAN acts! How American do they have to be to qualify for this discussion?
liebzz wrote:The Band:

1) While many of the members were born in Canada, they primarily recorded their material in Woodstock, NY.

2) If 1 doesn’t apply, Canada is in North America, amirite?
Grand Funk Railroad really did us a service by just coming right out and telling us

Re: Post Random Pearl Jam-Related Thoughts You Have

Posted: Thu July 06, 2023 12:53 am
by Matters
Jorge wrote:The Beach Boys are categorized as a band
Then that’s the answer and we shouldn’t embarrass ourselves any further.

Re: Post Random Pearl Jam-Related Thoughts You Have

Posted: Thu July 06, 2023 12:55 am
by Matters
liebzz wrote:
Matters wrote:
liebzz wrote:I mean the discussion is of course ridiculous because it excludes individual artists and then plays this game where bands are eliminated because the name of the singer is up front. Dylan out despite playing with a number of bands over the years because. Bruce out because he was the driving force behind his band and his name is up front (basically same with Pearl Jam for 30 of the 32 years they existed but we’ll count them because they are not called Eddie and the Pearl Jams).
What Bob Dylan band ranks amongst the best American bands ever?
You could argue The Band, whose recording output was in upstate New York and who also recorded there while Dylan was holed up after his motorcycle accident.

I do think more attention should be placed on the Grateful Dead as the greatest American band. They lead an entire musical movement out of San Francisco in the mid to late 60s, a movement that has evolved and been reshaped both with the remaining living members and in other bands who have taken slices of their sound and built entire careers around them - some of which still fill arenas and stadiums in the US regularly. While they don’t have an extensive list of #1 hits, many of their songs are baked (pun intended) into the consciousness of American music history. They’ve also spawned an unbelievably rich amount of bands who exist just to play their music, and recently had a music festival devoted to that (Skull & Roses in Ventura, CA).
Jefferson Airplane > Grateful Dead

Re: Post Random Pearl Jam-Related Thoughts You Have

Posted: Thu July 06, 2023 1:10 am
by dad
blueviper has said Van Halen twice and I can’t let it be ignored any longer.

It’s either Van Halen or The Beach Boys.

Re: Post Random Pearl Jam-Related Thoughts You Have

Posted: Thu July 06, 2023 1:12 am
by tragabigzanda
pearl jam sucks now

Re: Post Random Pearl Jam-Related Thoughts You Have

Posted: Thu July 06, 2023 1:34 am
by dad
beat it, nerd.

Re: Post Random Pearl Jam-Related Thoughts You Have

Posted: Thu July 06, 2023 1:45 am
by Jorge
tragabigzanda wrote:Guys it’s not The Beach Boys. Brian Wilson is arguably our greatest songwriter, but the instrumentation for their albums was performed by a revolving cast of session musicians.
I agree that it's not The Beach Boys, but that seems like an arbitrary reason to dismiss them from the conversation. And it's not even true, they played on a bunch of their own stuff through the years.

Re: Post Random Pearl Jam-Related Thoughts You Have

Posted: Thu July 06, 2023 1:46 am
by tragabigzanda
pearl jam sucks now

Re: Post Random Pearl Jam-Related Thoughts You Have

Posted: Thu July 06, 2023 1:48 am
by Jorge
tragabigzanda wrote:Their most beloved album was largely performed by the wrecking crew!
This is a matter of historical fact but you made it sound like they never recorded their own instruments

Re: Post Random Pearl Jam-Related Thoughts You Have

Posted: Thu July 06, 2023 1:50 am
by tragabigzanda
pearl jam sucks now