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Just an idea.

For anyone who doesn't like I'm Open, if you haven't heard it, look up Eddie doing the Kerouac poem 'Hymn'. It's a different piece but the atmosphere and delivery succeed in ways Im Open never manages to. I'm pretty sure they're both from around the same time, but one has impact whereas the other doesn't. Ed is no Kerouac, we know that but in terms of style and production and delivery, it's a great piece.

The first half of No Code is the most thoughtfully-paced and musically pleasing sequence of songs in their catalogue for me. It's so effective, it seems like the very embodiment of "good flow".

stip, it's like we're listening to different albums.

Well said Spenno.
I really don't think there is a better run of songs, both in quality and thematically, in all of PJ's catalogue. It's world class.

Birds in Hell wrote:The first half of No Code is the most thoughtfully-paced and musically pleasing sequence of songs in their catalogue for me. It's so effective, it seems like the very embodiment of "good flow".

stip, it's like we're listening to different albums.

by all means, walk me through what you hear

stip wrote:

Birds in Hell wrote:The first half of No Code is the most thoughtfully-paced and musically pleasing sequence of songs in their catalogue for me. It's so effective, it seems like the very embodiment of "good flow".

stip, it's like we're listening to different albums.

by all means, walk me through what you hear

I just think the songs, in the order that they've been sequenced, compliment each other very well.

Whenever I prepare a mix, or write a setlist for my band, or prepare a radio show (when I used to do that), the last thing I'd want is a bunch of songs in series that are of a similar volume, tempo and intensity - I always look for difference, even stark difference. The challenge is to make those differences flow in a way that highlights the strengths of each adjoining song and I really think the band nailed that with No Code.

Birds in Hell wrote:

stip wrote:

Birds in Hell wrote:The first half of No Code is the most thoughtfully-paced and musically pleasing sequence of songs in their catalogue for me. It's so effective, it seems like the very embodiment of "good flow".

stip, it's like we're listening to different albums.

by all means, walk me through what you hear

I just think the songs, in the order that they've been sequenced, compliment each other very well.

Whenever I prepare a mix, or write a setlist for my band, or prepare a radio show (when I used to do that), the last thing I'd want is a bunch of songs in series that are of a similar volume, tempo and intensity - I always look for difference, even stark difference. The challenge is to make those differences flow in a way that highlights the strengths of each adjoining song and I really think the band nailed that with No Code.

Exactly, besides you are already in the mood of the album...that´s why its so good, because the first 3 tracks are really different from the previous one yet they coexist in the best way possible.

What is a great sequence for you Stip?

The subtlety involved though. If Hail Hail was upfront, it'd be obvious, lost and forgettable. Sometimes almost gives it its power. But then to transport to a different universe into Who you are!?

Genius.

EJ wrote:I'll always regret not going to the Randall's Island shows. I had just moved to NYC in Aug 96. I was living a stone's throw away on the upper east side. I had no real reason other than sloth for not going. I still love hearing the stories though. I spent a lot of time in the parks over there while I was living on the UES. Its really strange to think they played there.

It was a bad time for them touring. I got my tickets from the VITALOGY HEALTH CLUB....shitty venues outside of Ticket master till Yield.

dimejinky99 wrote:The subtlety involved though. If Hail Hail was upfront, it'd be obvious, lost and forgettable. Sometimes almost gives it its power. But then to transport to a different universe into Who you are!?

Genius.

Who you are -in my tree is MUCH better than HH-WYA

I agree that the loud sounds of HH after Sometimes is and was uneccesarry

Hail Hail is a better sing than Sometimes, by an immeasurable degree

Doesn't matter

"Line one, mighty fine."

I echo the comments on how beautifully this album was recorded, particularly, Off He Goes. Might be one of their best recorded songs.

EJ wrote:"Line one, mighty fine."

I echo the comments on how beautifully this album was recorded, particularly, Off He Goes. Might be one of their best recorded songs.

You weren't around for the beginning were ya?

nightmareblack0206 wrote:

EJ wrote:"Line one, mighty fine."

I echo the comments on how beautifully this album was recorded, particularly, Off He Goes. Might be one of their best recorded songs.

You weren't around for the beginning were ya?

Sure I was. That's irrelevant. Do you understand what I'm saying here? I'm not saying its their best song. I'm saying its one of their best recorded songs, in terms of sound.

EJ wrote:

nightmareblack0206 wrote:

EJ wrote:"Line one, mighty fine."

I echo the comments on how beautifully this album was recorded, particularly, Off He Goes. Might be one of their best recorded songs.

You weren't around for the beginning were ya?

Sure I was. That's irrelevant. Do you understand what I'm saying here? I'm not saying its their best song. I'm saying its one of their best recorded songs, in terms of sound.

yeah, it sounds awesome...besides No Code is just amazing so...

nightmareblack0206 wrote:

EJ wrote:"Line one, mighty fine."

I echo the comments on how beautifully this album was recorded, particularly, Off He Goes. Might be one of their best recorded songs.

You weren't around for the beginning were ya?

Hard as this may be to believe, there's plenty of fans (even long-term fans) who think Pearl Jam was a much better band in 1996 than they were in 1992.

Birds in Hell wrote:

nightmareblack0206 wrote:

EJ wrote:"Line one, mighty fine."

I echo the comments on how beautifully this album was recorded, particularly, Off He Goes. Might be one of their best recorded songs.

You weren't around for the beginning were ya?

Hard as this may be to believe, there's plenty of fans (even long-term fans) who think Pearl Jam was a much better band in 1996 than they were in 1992.

they are called True fans.

Birds in Hell wrote:

stip wrote:

Birds in Hell wrote:The first half of No Code is the most thoughtfully-paced and musically pleasing sequence of songs in their catalogue for me. It's so effective, it seems like the very embodiment of "good flow".

stip, it's like we're listening to different albums.

by all means, walk me through what you hear

I just think the songs, in the order that they've been sequenced, compliment each other very well.

Whenever I prepare a mix, or write a setlist for my band, or prepare a radio show (when I used to do that), the last thing I'd want is a bunch of songs in series that are of a similar volume, tempo and intensity - I always look for difference, even stark difference. The challenge is to make those differences flow in a way that highlights the strengths of each adjoining song and I really think the band nailed that with No Code.

fair enough, and I agree you don't want a slow song run/fast song run. But the starting run of no code feels like a collection of songs, rather than a continuously flowing idea. For instance, I think the jarring transition between sometimes and hail hail is terrible, and it breaks up what could have been a nice thoughtful flow between a fairly cerebral run of 4 songs, at the start.

If you are going to stick with the first 5 songs on No Code I like the feel of Sometimes, Who You Are, In My Tree, Hail Hail, Smile a lot better.

VinylGuy wrote:

Birds in Hell wrote:

stip wrote:

Birds in Hell wrote:The first half of No Code is the most thoughtfully-paced and musically pleasing sequence of songs in their catalogue for me. It's so effective, it seems like the very embodiment of "good flow".

stip, it's like we're listening to different albums.

by all means, walk me through what you hear

I just think the songs, in the order that they've been sequenced, compliment each other very well.

Whenever I prepare a mix, or write a setlist for my band, or prepare a radio show (when I used to do that), the last thing I'd want is a bunch of songs in series that are of a similar volume, tempo and intensity - I always look for difference, even stark difference. The challenge is to make those differences flow in a way that highlights the strengths of each adjoining song and I really think the band nailed that with No Code.

Exactly, besides you are already in the mood of the album...that´s why its so good, because the first 3 tracks are really different from the previous one yet they coexist in the best way possible.

What is a great sequence for you Stip?

within pearl jam? I think the first 8 songs on Ten flow together amazingly well. Each song almost feels like it picks up where the other one left off.

Part of me thinks that Sticking Hail Hail as 2nd song was Pearl Jams way of being not completely committed to the idea of being different. Much like the way McP discusses with Binaural. How they reached for something but didnt quite commit to the final idea. Tossing Hail Hail as the second track was quintessential pearl jam (compared to the rest of the album)

I dont know. Still working this out. I love No Code though.