tragabigzanda wrote:What is this throat surgery you speak of?
I couldn't find an article unfortunately, so I will do my best from memory.
Many singers get surgery because they HAVE to, Adele being one recent example. Polyps and nodules develop and they risk harming their ability to talk, let alone sing, operating in a painful and severely diminished state. However, some singers get (I believe to be) a similar surgery on an elective basis similar to how athletes get arthroscopic clean-outs of their knee, and are able to get back to something like 85 - 90% of their peak in many cases. Brian Johnson of AC/DC is a prominent example, compare his voice in the 2000's to the 1990's, he sounds nearly as good for Black Ice as he did in the mid-80's. I think Bob Seger is another one.
Chris in 2010 does not match Chris in 1990 - 1992. But he's a helluva lot better than he was in even 1996, and I don't believe you can account for all of that change just by sobering up, which he did.
That's actually one of the better Chris performances from the Audioslave era. He sounds great during that whole Letterman set. He sounded awful in literally every other live performance I've seen from Audioslave.
2006 was a turning point I think. He started doing some acoustic gigs to promote Revelations (notably the radio broadcast from Sweeden where he debuted Billie Jean) and it was amazing to hear how good he sounded.
Re: Best and worst eras for Eddie vocally?
Posted: Thu August 31, 2017 5:26 pm
by evenslow
was listening to pj radio yesterday and Elderly Woman came on from '05 at the gorge. his voice sounded really good there. even nailed the "never DREAMED you'd return" part.
the playing on it was likewise sensational.
Re: Best and worst eras for Eddie vocally?
Posted: Sun September 03, 2017 2:47 pm
by sico_pata
BootsToAsses wrote:In 1990-1992 he was powerful but he didn't have much control. He had beautiful moments and shoddy moments.
1994 is fantastic, he had absolutely learned to control his vocals by this point.
1995 was shocking Yet the shows are still brilliant to listen to.
In 1996 he started to have a softer, almost nasal approach to his singing which I enjoy listening to. 1998 is definitely a peak. The power is still there when necessary, he has control and he can absolutely kill with a performance of DTE.
2000 is pretty great for the most part. 2003 is great but there are times he sounds a bit flat. Perhaps it's because the studio sessions for Riot Act didn't really stretch him vocally due to the subdued nature of the material. Great moments though.
2005/2006 are fantastic, and his last great era of singing. It's been steadily downhill since then, with 2009-2011 being the worst. 2012 onwards, he's gotten better. 2013 and 2014 are pretty great. 2016 is a bit hit and miss.
X1000
Re: Best and worst eras for Eddie vocally?
Posted: Sun September 03, 2017 3:43 pm
by lecherouslittlestump
This version of Garden from a 2006 BBC radio broadcast...the band sound heavy as fuck and Ed sounds great
Re: Best and worst eras for Eddie vocally?
Posted: Sun May 12, 2024 1:57 am
by Gigalogy84
The worst era is by far Lightning Bolt era. I cannot stand Ed’s vocals in many of the songs. He showed some improvement in Gigaton for sure but sounds great in Dark Matter. Dark Matter is like the best he has sounded since Yield or at least Self Titled.
Re: Best and worst eras for Eddie vocally?
Posted: Sun May 12, 2024 1:57 am
by Gigalogy84
The worst era is by far Lightning Bolt era. I cannot stand Ed’s vocals in many of the songs. He showed some improvement in Gigaton for sure but sounds great in Dark Matter. Dark Matter is like the best he has sounded since Yield or at least Self Titled.
Re: Best and worst eras for Eddie vocally?
Posted: Sun May 12, 2024 2:02 am
by stip
I like the No Code-Binaural era the least (his nasal/pinched period) but he is making the least flattering choices ST->Backspacer.
He sounds good on Lightning Bolt
Re: Best and worst eras for Eddie vocally?
Posted: Sun May 12, 2024 2:10 am
by Gigalogy84
stip wrote:I like the No Code-Binaural era the least (his nasal/pinched period) but he is making the least flattering choices ST->Backspacer.
He sounds good on Lightning Bolt
I’m trying to understand the nasal-ness people talk about on the No Code era. Is it during softer songs like Off He Goes?
I remember people didn’t care about Binaural - Riot Act vocals. In particular Riot Act’s mumbling mainly low register vocals. Ed sounded less energized on songs but at the same time they fit the mood of the album.
I don’t care for Lightning Bolt as a whole and do not like the way he sang on that album which made the songs worse (Mind Your Manners is an exception).
Re: Best and worst eras for Eddie vocally?
Posted: Sun May 12, 2024 2:11 am
by stip
Gigalogy84 wrote:
stip wrote:I like the No Code-Binaural era the least (his nasal/pinched period) but he is making the least flattering choices ST->Backspacer.
He sounds good on Lightning Bolt
I’m trying to understand the nasal-ness people talk about on the No Code era. Is it during softer songs like Off He Goes?
I remember people didn’t care about Binaural - Riot Act vocals. In particular Riot Act’s mumbling mainly low register vocals. Ed sounded less energized on songs but at the same time they fit the mood of the album.
I don’t care for Lightning Bolt as a whole and do not like the way he sang on that album which made the songs worse (Mind Your Manners is an exception).
no, its eveywhere. faithfull is a good example. off he goes and hail hail as well
Re: Best and worst eras for Eddie vocally?
Posted: Sun May 12, 2024 2:13 am
by stip
i got shit is another good example from the era. really any song where he is taking neil young as an influence.
i didnt love the riot act choices at the time, which is why S/T initially felt so fresh as a response, but riot act has aged really well as a one-off approach
Re: Best and worst eras for Eddie vocally?
Posted: Sun May 12, 2024 2:26 am
by Gigalogy84
stip wrote:
Gigalogy84 wrote:
stip wrote:I like the No Code-Binaural era the least (his nasal/pinched period) but he is making the least flattering choices ST->Backspacer.
He sounds good on Lightning Bolt
I’m trying to understand the nasal-ness people talk about on the No Code era. Is it during softer songs like Off He Goes?
I remember people didn’t care about Binaural - Riot Act vocals. In particular Riot Act’s mumbling mainly low register vocals. Ed sounded less energized on songs but at the same time they fit the mood of the album.
I don’t care for Lightning Bolt as a whole and do not like the way he sang on that album which made the songs worse (Mind Your Manners is an exception).
no, its eveywhere. faithfull is a good example. off he goes and hail hail as well
Really? I just don’t notice anything nasally or off-putting about his vocals on those songs. I figured only the softer songs. Maybe I’m used to them being in earlier Pearl Jam eras and noticed the vocal difference on later albums.
Everyone has their opinions though. I loved his vocals on Yield. Not as much as Ten - Vitalogy but still think he sounded great.
Re: Best and worst eras for Eddie vocally?
Posted: Sun May 12, 2024 2:26 am
by Gigalogy84
stip wrote:
Gigalogy84 wrote:
stip wrote:I like the No Code-Binaural era the least (his nasal/pinched period) but he is making the least flattering choices ST->Backspacer.
He sounds good on Lightning Bolt
I’m trying to understand the nasal-ness people talk about on the No Code era. Is it during softer songs like Off He Goes?
I remember people didn’t care about Binaural - Riot Act vocals. In particular Riot Act’s mumbling mainly low register vocals. Ed sounded less energized on songs but at the same time they fit the mood of the album.
I don’t care for Lightning Bolt as a whole and do not like the way he sang on that album which made the songs worse (Mind Your Manners is an exception).
no, its eveywhere. faithfull is a good example. off he goes and hail hail as well
Really? I just don’t notice anything nasally or off-putting about his vocals on those songs. I figured only the softer songs. Maybe I’m used to them being in earlier Pearl Jam eras and noticed the vocal difference on later albums.
Everyone has their opinions though. I loved his vocals on Yield. Not as much as Ten - Vitalogy but still think he sounded great.
Re: Best and worst eras for Eddie vocally?
Posted: Mon May 13, 2024 12:56 am
by Strat
Someone stop stip. Please.
Re: Best and worst eras for Eddie vocally?
Posted: Mon May 13, 2024 1:57 am
by VinylGuy
we are talking about studio era or live era?
Studio i would think his worst performance is Backspacer or ST. Riot Act´s approach has always troubled me, but in on a very good phase with the album now so ill give it a pass.
Best era is pretty much every era for me. Guy is untouchable for me.
Live i would say his worst tour is 2008 and 2010. very very weak shows on those tours. Best is probably every year really, but im going to choose 2005-2006 and 2022 as his more complete and 1992 - 1998 as his more untouchable maybe.
Re: Best and worst eras for Eddie vocally?
Posted: Mon May 13, 2024 2:12 am
by Monkey_Driven
Strat wrote:Someone stop stip. Please.
All that book money really got to his head. Turned him into a monster.
stip wrote:I like the No Code-Binaural era the least (his nasal/pinched period) but he is making the least flattering choices ST->Backspacer.
He sounds good on Lightning Bolt
I’m trying to understand the nasal-ness people talk about on the No Code era. Is it during softer songs like Off He Goes?
I remember people didn’t care about Binaural - Riot Act vocals. In particular Riot Act’s mumbling mainly low register vocals. Ed sounded less energized on songs but at the same time they fit the mood of the album.
I don’t care for Lightning Bolt as a whole and do not like the way he sang on that album which made the songs worse (Mind Your Manners is an exception).
no, its eveywhere. faithfull is a good example. off he goes and hail hail as well
Really? I just don’t notice anything nasally or off-putting about his vocals on those songs. I figured only the softer songs. Maybe I’m used to them being in earlier Pearl Jam eras and noticed the vocal difference on later albums.
Everyone has their opinions though. I loved his vocals on Yield. Not as much as Ten - Vitalogy but still think he sounded great.
well off putting is your phrase it is his neil young period and im not a neil young guy. I recognize others love this sound. Im certainly in the minority
Light years is another good example - the early verses. the ive used hammers made out of wood (before leaning into the vibrato on the next line). Plaque on the wall/myth is belief in faithful is another
Yet the shows are still brilliant to listen to.
it is his neil young period and im not a neil young guy. I recognize others love this sound. Im certainly in the minority